Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread

How well is the war this going for Russia?

  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Blyatskrieg

    Votos: 249 10.6%
  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐ I ain't afraid of no Ghost of Kiev

    Votos: 278 11.8%
  • ⭐⭐⭐ Competent attack with some upsets

    Votos: 796 33.7%
  • ⭐⭐ Stalemate

    Votos: 659 27.9%
  • ⭐ Ukraine takes back Crimea 2022

    Votos: 378 16.0%

  • Total de votantes
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I'm sorry that you're so emotionally constipated that you can't really imbue your words with any emotion behind them, besides "le edge" circa 2009.
>emotion
That's your first issue. Your second issue is still talking like a redditor.

Ah yes more military wisdom from a man who probably used the skip feature on the No Russian mission. Do these retards not remember that it's Russia we are dealing with? Their military hardware etc and hell even their tactics may be up for debate on their effectiveness - they are Slavs after all - but they've never met a military problem they didn't at least try to solve by throwing men into a meat grinder.
 
>emotion
That's your first issue. Your second issue is still talking like a redditor.


Ah yes more military wisdom from a man who probably used the skip feature on the No Russian mission. Do these retards not remember that it's Russia we are dealing with? Their military hardware etc and hell even their tactics may be up for debate on their effectiveness - they are Slavs after all - but they've never met a military problem they didn't at least try to solve by throwing men into a meat grinder.
They are like human tanks or the Iraqis that range from terrible to great people at fighting but never give up. They never give up.
 

30 Per Cent of ‘Ukrainian Refugees’ Are Actually From Other Countries​

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Most of the false asylum claimants are economic migrants from North Africa and the Middle East.

Around a third of Ukrainian refugees arriving in France are actually economic migrants from other areas of the world, mostly North Africa and the Middle East, according to an investigation by newspaper Le Figaro.

Over 5,000 refugees have already arrived in France from Ukraine, with some being transported by bus from Berlin and others arriving by rail and air.

“However, many of those arriving through official channels and being identified by the authorities are non-Ukrainian, with Le Figaro reporting that as many as 30 percent are migrants of other nationalities,” reports ReMix News.

“The newspaper reveals that 7.5 percent are of Algerian nationality, while 3.5 percent of arrivals are from the Ivory Coast and Morocco respectively.”

Indians and Kyrgyzstan nationals also represent a chunk of the fake refugees, in addition to migrants from the Democratic Republic of Congo, Cameroon, Pakistan, Nigeria, and China, who are all falsely claiming to be Ukrainian.

The incentive for economic migrants to obtain asylum in France by pretending to be Ukrainian is clear given that they are given immediate blanket refugee status, guaranteed accommodation, as well as educational, financial and medical support.

Despite his usually staunch opposition to immigration, presidential candidate Éric Zemmour said Ukrainians with family ties in France should be allowed in.

“There are people who are like us and people who [are] unlike us,” the populist told BFM TV. “Everybody now understands that Arab or Muslim immigrants are too unlike us and that it is harder and harder to integrate them.”

The research again highlights the opportunism and cynicism of economic migrants who will piggy back off the suffering of genuine refugees to reach the west.

The numbers are sure to cause concerns amongst people considering opening up their homes to Ukrainian refugees in western countries such as the United Kingdom.

According to an Observer poll, 9 per cent of Brits would “definitely” invite a refugee to stay in their home, while 20 per cent say they might.

How many of those people are just performatively virtue signaling and don’t actually plan on taking in any refugees at all is probably quite a high number.

During the 2015-16 refugee crisis, innumerable celebrities in the UK vowed to take in refugees, yet virtually none of them actually followed through.

As we highlighted earlier, the Sweden Democrats have proposed helping genuine Ukrainian refugees by temporarily banning asylum claims filed by those coming from different countries.
2 takeaways: first, lol sandnigs and secondly, it seems not as many Ukrainians are fleeing the country as the official numbers would suggest
b-but...those german zeitungs assured me those blacks were legit ukranian refugees and that lmao...yea, surprised pikachu face there.
 
wouldn't you want to do something about it?
No, I really don't. My country has a litany of it's own problems and frankly Russian expansionism towards the countries that border it is not one of them, nor has it ever been one of them. I sympathise with the plight of the average Ukrainian person, but it's just not mine or my country's fight, no matter what our ridiculous EU ruling class says or thinks.

The more your clown president attempts to get my country and others involved in a serious conflict we have no place being in, the more I will deride him, simple as. It's got nothing to do with globohomo or swallowing the propaganda.
 
He's shucking and jiving on a national stage, playing propaganda, lying his tiny ass off. I don't blame the guy for wanting help, and i don't blame you for acting the way you are. But it's just weak performative bullshit. I hope the claps and cheers keep some of your people from getting killed.

it's hard to feel very sorry for them though, after the shit they've been doing since this war started. Openly bragging about warcrimes, and calling for average russians to get fucked into the dirt. It's nothing but punishment for russians that did nothing. I'm not saying you support this, or even want this. I do feel bad for the innocents of ukraine, they didn't ask for this anymore than the innocents of russia did.

Hope your people stay safe, and don't have harm befall them. But i want that manlet kike to get a show trial and public execution for being such a corrupt dishonest faggot. He fucked y'all almost as much as russia is.
I do not hold blind obedience to my country. I have many complaints about it but for better or worse, this is the country I was born in. I didn't choose it. I just consider the criticism lobbed here unfair, as there are many things you can criticize the country and its' leaders for but not for how it acts right now.

I, frankly, did not expect Ukraine to last this long myself.

And I appreciate you being nice.
 
b-but...those german zeitungs assured me those blacks were legit ukranian refugees and that lmao...yea, surprised pikachu face there.
Yeah, had a good laugh when Austrian State TV (ORF) had a journo reporting from the train station at the border (in Poland i guess).... he talked about the Ukrainian refugees, meanwhile most of the people you could see behind him in that trainstatio were joggers, gypsies and sandniggers.
 
For all the globohomo that there is, globohomo didn't force me twice out of my home under the guise of liberating me. My dichotomy is pretty clear on this. All other subjects - absolutely, open to discussion, in this case however, I'm not interested in a lamebrained apologia of people occupying a fringe political position about how Russia is based and is totally taking their stuff back or whatever.
I get that your personally involved, in the middle of this and that sucks. I can't imagine what that's like and I hope you and yours stay safe through this.

It is still frustrating, although understandable from you, when people 20+ days in still conflate understanding why Russia did this with "Russia is based and is totally taking their stuff back or whatever". There are people, not Ukrainians involved, who unironically believe this, when we've known for 20+ years this was going to be the result if certain actions were taken and thos actions were taken.
People really should compare Operation Barbosa to what's going on now. It was considered a success up until the later half of it and it might surprise you to see how the Russians stack up.
 
Interesting new news from Financial Times.

Ukraine and Russia draw up neutrality plan to end war​

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Fifteen-point draft deal would involve Kyiv renouncing Nato membership ambitions in return for security guarantees

Ukraine and Russia have made significant progress on a tentative 15-point peace plan including a ceasefire and Russian withdrawal if Kyiv declares neutrality and accepts limits on its armed forces, according to three people involved in the talks.

The proposed deal, which Ukrainian and Russian negotiators discussed in full for the first time on Monday, would involve Kyiv renouncing its ambitions to join Nato and promising not to host foreign military bases or weaponry in exchange for protection from allies such as the US, UK and Turkey, the people said.

The nature of western guarantees for Ukrainian security — and their acceptability to Moscow — could yet prove to be a big obstacle to any deal, as could the status of Ukrainian territories seized by Russia and its proxies in 2014. A 1994 agreement underpinning Ukrainian security failed to prevent Russian aggression against its neighbour.

Although Moscow and Kyiv both said on Wednesday that they had made progress on the terms of a deal, Ukrainian officials remain sceptical Russian President Vladimir Putin is fully committed to peace and worry that Moscow could be buying time to regroup its forces and resume its offensive.

Mykhailo Podolyak, a senior adviser to Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, told the Financial Times that any deal would involve “the troops of the Russian Federation in any case leaving the territory of Ukraine” captured since the invasion began on February 24 — namely southern regions along the Azov and Black Seas, as well as territory to the east and north of Kyiv.

Ukraine would maintain its armed forces but would be obliged to stay outside military alliances such as Nato and refrain from hosting foreign military bases on its territory.

Putin’s press secretary Dmitry Peskov told reporters on Wednesday that neutrality for Ukraine based on the status of Austria or Sweden was a possibility.

“This option is really being discussed now, and is one that can be considered neutral,” said Peskov.

Sergei Lavrov, Russia’s foreign minister, said that “absolutely specific wordings” were “close to being agreed” in the negotiations.

Despite the progress in peace talks, Ukrainian cities came under heavy shelling for a third consecutive night while Kyiv said it was launching a counter-offensive against Russian invaders.

In a virtual address to members of Congress on Wednesday, Zelensky pleaded for the US to enforce a no-fly zone or provide fighter jets or other means to fend off Russia’s attack on his country, and impose harsher economic sanctions on Moscow.

In a dramatic appeal, Zelensky said Ukraine needed America’s support after Russia had launched a “brutal offensive against our values”. He called on Americans to remember the attacks on Pearl Harbor and of September 2001 and showed a searing video of the missile attacks and shelling destroying Ukrainian cities.

Though Ukraine’s constitution commits it to seeking membership of Nato, Zelensky and his aides have increasingly played down Ukraine’s chances of joining the transatlantic military alliance, a prospect that Russia sees as a provocation.

“There is no effective system of European security now, which would be moderated by Nato. As soon as a serious war began in Europe, Nato quickly stepped aside,” Podolyak said.

We propose a ‘Ukrainian model of security guarantees,’ which implies the immediate and legally verified participation of a number of guarantor countries in the conflict on the side of Ukraine, if someone again encroaches on its territorial integrity,” he added.

Ukraine, Podolyak added, would as part of any deal “definitely retain its own army”. He also played down the significance of a ban on foreign bases in Ukraine, saying that was already precluded by Ukrainian law.

Two of the people said the putative deal also included provisions on enshrining rights for the Russian language in Ukraine, where it is widely spoken though Ukrainian is the only official language. Russia has framed its invasion as an attempt to protect Russian speakers in Ukraine from what it claims is “genocide” by “neo-Nazis”.

Podolyak said “humanitarian issues, including language issues, are discussed only through the prism of Ukraine’s exclusive interests”.

The biggest sticking point remains Russia’s demand that Ukraine recognise its 2014 annexation of Crimea and the independence of two separatist statelets in the eastern Donbas border region.

Ukraine has so far refused but is willing to compartmentalise the issue, Podolyak said.

“Disputed and conflict territories [are] in a separate case. So far, we are talking about a guaranteed withdrawal from the territories that have been occupied since the start of the military operation on February 24,” when Russia’s invasion began, he said.
Also, apparently copying FT's articles is a violation of their Terms & Conditions and copyright policy. Suck my dick FT.
 
They are like human tanks or the Iraqis that range from terrible to great people at fighting but never give up. They never give up.
Tbf its hard to give up when you'll get killed by someone within your own side for trying. And Putin is a manlet at heart, so there's a heavy element of ego driven tard determination at play here.
 
I do not hold blind obedience to my country. I have many complaints about it but for better or worse, this is the country I was born in. I didn't choose it. I just consider the criticism lobbed here unfair, as there are many things you can criticize the country and its' leaders for but not for how it acts right now.

I, frankly, did not expect Ukraine to last this long myself.

And I appreciate you being nice.
Zelensky started this war when he thought he had the US to fight it for him, after Trump was gone.
Fuck him and his WEF handlers.
I support Russia. 100%

I'm so sick of this little actor being called Churchill every 10 minutes this morning
 
They're artists and rely on making money from foreigners to try and survive in a country that's been cut off economically, for one. For two, they're not pro-Putin, they're trying to survive since they were already poor to begin with. I'm actively working with them to help them find alternatives so they don't starve to death. We've found several ways (that I'm not going to mention because some tard from Reddit here is likely going to try and get them canceled), but it's highway robbery on the amount they take in fees.

For an example - I sent one of them 95 bucks. They got 82.
That sucks man, and I honestly feel bad for innocent Russian civs... but I also feel bad for the innocent Ukrainian civs that are going through both the above, and the fact that they're getting bombed and shot out of their homes via the actions of Putin. It's ok to feel empathy for both no? If the Russians don't like the sanctions, Putin needs to provide for them to make up for it, plain and simple.
 
You actually don't need to make up fantasy what-ifs about how the US would respond to a perceived threat to its national interest and security, Libya was bombed because it threatened the petro-dollar, we don't need Mexico or Canada to join the chinks for us to smack them.

Now will see if we'll do some regime change with Saudis as they're opening talks with the chinks.
An end-run around the dollar has been in the works for a while, now. Seems this Ukraine thing has given it a hefty nudge. And regime change doesn't seem to be as simple as it used to be.

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President Zelenskyyyyy has urged Russian troops to surrender. He says, "I know that you want to survive" and adds that those who surrendered would be treated decently and "as people." (Source)

Admirable sentiments, I'm sure you'll agree. What a humanitarian. Perhaps I was wrong about manlets.

Then I remembered that I'm not a redditor... I'm a kiwi. Like all kiwis, I have been hitting 'next highlight' on this thread from the start of the conflict (the highest form of knowledge) and I know that if I was a Russian I wouldn't be surrendering to these cunts.

Here are things that have happened to surrendered Russians:

They have been forced to call their mothers and other family members.
They have been paraded on TV and forced to make hostage video tier confessions.
They have been executed.

russian executed.jpg
Note the chain. His executors took the time to rearm the body but forgot to unchain him.

Russians have been so dehumanised by the media that there is no chance they will be treated kindly. They are so dehumanised that their dead bodies are being posed with, driven over recreationally and pissed on as signs of disrespect.

russian dead2.jpgrussian dead1.jpg

Sorry, forgot to save the video where they drive over the Russian bodies while laughing.

All things considered, there are only three things I know for certain:

1. Russians would be very foolish to surrender to the Ukrainians.
2. I was right about manlets.
3. Rate this post informative or your mother will die in her sleep tonight.
 
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