Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread

How well is the war this going for Russia?

  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Blyatskrieg

    Votos: 249 10.6%
  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐ I ain't afraid of no Ghost of Kiev

    Votos: 278 11.8%
  • ⭐⭐⭐ Competent attack with some upsets

    Votos: 796 33.7%
  • ⭐⭐ Stalemate

    Votos: 659 27.9%
  • ⭐ Ukraine takes back Crimea 2022

    Votos: 378 16.0%

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You know I'm gonna disagree with the people annoyed with Vince. He has been more effective at plucking at my heartstrings than most of the preprocessed Uke propaganda combined.

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Yeah, I can voice my complete disdain for the globalist clique all day and point out just how horrible they have been through this, and laugh as Putin continues to make them all look like the asshats they are and feel catharsis since this is something my own people have failed to even have the initiative to even scratch on doing outside of electing Trump, but fuck me I stopped even trying to imagine what it must be like in the middle of that bullshit tug o war early on. War is fucking horrifying.
 
Can't reply to him for some reason but
>shit since the 70s
That's why all those new Russian tanks and jets caused NATO repeat panic attacks, right? Tanks being the main reason we (US) made the Abrams? And it's why the CIA was paying people to try to steal Spetsnaz gear in Afghanistan and bring it to them, right? I'm not trying to sound like a total Russophile, but they got good shit, and I'll never get why it's a funny internet meme to act like Russia has a third-world ass-backward army with shittier gear and training than Somalian pirates. Joke's one thing, but there are people who legit believe that, and I just don't get it.
This is kind of a self-defeating argument.
The F-15 was developed as an absurdly capable air superiority fighter because satellite photos of the MiG-25 seemed to imply it was meant to be a powerful dogfighter.
Turned out that it was a fast interceptor, which necessitated extensive use of steel, making for a very heavy plane which required a large wing. The US assumed it used aluminum and titanium in its construction and the large wing was meant to increase lift in turning.
Let's also not mention the Bomber Gap and the Missile Gap.
It's not productive to downplay enemy assets and capabilities, but mentioning how the US pissed and shitted its pants on the regular during the Cold War doesn't prove ROSSYIA STRONK, it just proves the US had a tendency to hype up Soviet capabilities be it due to paranoia, justifying increased spending, or both.
 
You actually don't need to make up fantasy what-ifs about how the US would respond to a perceived threat to its national interest and security, Libya was bombed because it threatened the petro-dollar, we don't need Mexico or Canada to join the chinks for us to smack them.

Now will see if we'll do some regime change with Saudis as they're opening talks with the chinks.
 
While you curse Moscow, remember to throw in a few at D.C., because they strung you along into the slaughter.
For all the globohomo that there is, globohomo didn't force me twice out of my home under the guise of liberating me. My dichotomy is pretty clear on this. All other subjects - absolutely, open to discussion, in this case however, I'm not interested in a lamebrained apologia of people occupying a fringe political position about how Russia is based and is totally taking their stuff back or whatever.
 
Imagine what they could have done. A neutral country that plays both the EU/US and Russia off each other.
This seems like the smart play for Ukies, but idk how long Russia and the US/EU would let them play that game given the color revolutions, annexation of Crimea etc. This is like two pitbulls fighting over a chew toy, the chew toy doesn't really get a vote, it only gets to squeak.

I don't have anything against Zelensky apart from his aggressive begging which is like one of those Rat King members constantly demanding money for their Patreons, but he's simultaneously the best and worst man Ukies could have as a figurehead atm.

As a professional entertainer, he's a lot more relatable and charismatic than his predecessors, who were literally oligarch crooks. But as an entertainer, he's probably also at least slightly dumb and seems to have lost himself in his new role pretending to be John Connor from the Terminator franchise. It's not gonna work out well for Ukraine and the longer the REEEsistance drags out, the worse their future looks.

Not just because of the casualties and property damage, but because they were already a demographically dying country that's now losing huge numbers of people to emigration every day. Unlike Arnold in Terminator, the younger ones won't be back, which leaves them with lots of embittered old people in a broken and even more impoverished country.

Every single political figure involved in, and encouraging, this excessively homosexual war is a complete faggot who should do a backflip. The only winners will be Chinese, who will come out of this a lot more powerful without firing a single shot or sending a single round of ammunition to the front.
 
For god's sake, don't give weapons to civi's. It's a graveyard in the making, and they don't help in war.The only thing it achieves is dead Ukrainians and trigger-happy Russians.
 
Fair enough, how do you know these Russian friends? Are you sure they don't just hold pro-Putin stances? Are you scrutinising what they say like you would Western media? Are you sure they're not just trying to influence you?
They're artists and rely on making money from foreigners to try and survive in a country that's been cut off economically, for one. For two, they're not pro-Putin, they're trying to survive since they were already poor to begin with. I'm actively working with them to help them find alternatives so they don't starve to death. We've found several ways (that I'm not going to mention because some tard from Reddit here is likely going to try and get them canceled), but it's highway robbery on the amount they take in fees.

For an example - I sent one of them 95 bucks. They got 82.
 
I'm sorry, I find it hard to operate in a category of dicksucking when discussing an elected president asking for help by showing your congressmen and congresswoman what the Russian army is doing right now to Ukraine.
He's shucking and jiving on a national stage, playing propaganda, lying his tiny ass off. I don't blame the guy for wanting help, and i don't blame you for acting the way you are. But it's just weak performative bullshit. I hope the claps and cheers keep some of your people from getting killed.

it's hard to feel very sorry for them though, after the shit they've been doing since this war started. Openly bragging about warcrimes, and calling for average russians to get fucked into the dirt. It's nothing but punishment for russians that did nothing. I'm not saying you support this, or even want this. I do feel bad for the innocents of ukraine, they didn't ask for this anymore than the innocents of russia did.

Hope your people stay safe, and don't have harm befall them. But i want that manlet kike to get a show trial and public execution for being such a corrupt dishonest faggot. He fucked y'all almost as much as russia is.
 

30 Per Cent of ‘Ukrainian Refugees’ Are Actually From Other Countries​

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Most of the false asylum claimants are economic migrants from North Africa and the Middle East.

Around a third of Ukrainian refugees arriving in France are actually economic migrants from other areas of the world, mostly North Africa and the Middle East, according to an investigation by newspaper Le Figaro.

Over 5,000 refugees have already arrived in France from Ukraine, with some being transported by bus from Berlin and others arriving by rail and air.

“However, many of those arriving through official channels and being identified by the authorities are non-Ukrainian, with Le Figaro reporting that as many as 30 percent are migrants of other nationalities,” reports ReMix News.

“The newspaper reveals that 7.5 percent are of Algerian nationality, while 3.5 percent of arrivals are from the Ivory Coast and Morocco respectively.”

Indians and Kyrgyzstan nationals also represent a chunk of the fake refugees, in addition to migrants from the Democratic Republic of Congo, Cameroon, Pakistan, Nigeria, and China, who are all falsely claiming to be Ukrainian.

The incentive for economic migrants to obtain asylum in France by pretending to be Ukrainian is clear given that they are given immediate blanket refugee status, guaranteed accommodation, as well as educational, financial and medical support.

Despite his usually staunch opposition to immigration, presidential candidate Éric Zemmour said Ukrainians with family ties in France should be allowed in.

“There are people who are like us and people who [are] unlike us,” the populist told BFM TV. “Everybody now understands that Arab or Muslim immigrants are too unlike us and that it is harder and harder to integrate them.”

The research again highlights the opportunism and cynicism of economic migrants who will piggy back off the suffering of genuine refugees to reach the west.

The numbers are sure to cause concerns amongst people considering opening up their homes to Ukrainian refugees in western countries such as the United Kingdom.

According to an Observer poll, 9 per cent of Brits would “definitely” invite a refugee to stay in their home, while 20 per cent say they might.

How many of those people are just performatively virtue signaling and don’t actually plan on taking in any refugees at all is probably quite a high number.

During the 2015-16 refugee crisis, innumerable celebrities in the UK vowed to take in refugees, yet virtually none of them actually followed through.

As we highlighted earlier, the Sweden Democrats have proposed helping genuine Ukrainian refugees by temporarily banning asylum claims filed by those coming from different countries.
2 takeaways: first, lol sandnigs and secondly, it seems not as many Ukrainians are fleeing the country as the official numbers would suggest
 
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