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Yautja dijo:
When youre threatened by an outward force that intentionally uses your differing ethnicities and beliefs to turn you on each other because you're unaligned being homogeneous is an extreme benefit lol. I never said non homogeneous society was the way to go.
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Then there is nothing wrong with Europeans today wanting to maintain a homeogenous society. Thank you for coming to my Ted talk.
Yautja dijo:
This is not what I said. What i said was we'd have seen them perform much better. Just like literally other non colonized group of people.
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How is it that societies that faced colonization were able to repel Europeans while Africans weren't able to?
 
I love Japan and Japanese history and all. But I'm seriously wondering as I cross-reference my memory on this. Did Japan ever actually create anything of note that wasn't just a modified version of what they got from other countries?

(ninjas don't count, they're just really based mercenaries, and samurai are knights, which most modern cultures have convergently evolved)
 
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I can't believe Venti managed to get some screen time by playing victim. That's genuinely funny to me considering she was a frog saluter and Kekistani to the enth degree just a few years ago.

Edit: I'm surprise the last dozen or so pages haven't been getting slapped with stonehedge heads up and down. Wasn't it a jannie pet peeve for people to derail threads even if the derailing discussion was really interesting? I like it but just a curiosity. Nevermind I just noticed the stickers lol
Anyone know what the general reception of this British debacle has been?

Null dijo:
Doing actual debates is pointless regardless. Nobody's mind ever changes. Argument is a sport.
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Now come on generally speaking that's retarded everywhere but with very stupid people and the politically obsessed--or funposters. Those who refuse to actually engage with materials or argumentation and instead just want to ramble are intellectually deficient and so debating them is pointless, yeah, but that's not everyone thankfully. Debate is a fantastic method of intellectual challenge that's exercised not just for the opponents but especially for the audience's sake so they can make decisions based on the cases set before them.

Argument/Debate is a sport, though. True. It's really interesting when it's done right.

tl;dr Debate people who can engage with you properly and engage with them properly, otherwise you're just gonna keep hitting your head against brick
 
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WolfeTone dijo:
I love Japan and Japanese history and all. But I'm seriously wondering as I cross-reference my memory on this. Did Japan ever actually create anything of note that wasn't just a modified version of what they got from other countries?

(ninjas don't count, they're just really based mercenaries, and samurai are knights, which most modern cultures have convergently evolved)
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Anime, JAV and oppressive work culture
 
WolfeTone dijo:
I love Japan and Japanese history and all. But I'm seriously wondering as I cross-reference my memory on this. Did Japan ever actually create anything of note that wasn't just a modified version of what they got from other countries?

(ninjas don't count, they're just really based mercenaries, and samurai are knights)
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They didn't really event anything major until post-WW2 but they had a hand in the advancement of firearms before that. The impressive feat of their civilization is that when faced with colonization they swallowed their pride and turned their country into a force that could rival western powers in just ten to twenty years. When Commodore Perry gave his ultimatum they were a fuedal society that hadn't advanced at all since the 16th century.
 
KylesDickIsOut dijo:
Then there is nothing wrong with Europeans today wanting to maintain a homeogenous society. Thank you for coming to my Ted talk.

How is it that societies that faced colonization were able to repel Europeans while Africans weren't able to?
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Perhaps... historical context has an answer that affected their ability to do so? Also whites have a homogenous society. Israel.
 
KylesDickIsOut dijo:
They didn't really event anything major until post-WW2 but they had a hand in the advancement of firearms before that. The impressive feat of their civilization is that when faced with colonization they swallowed their pride and turned their country into a force that could rival western powers in just ten to twenty years. When Commodore Perry gave his ultimatum they were a fuedal society that hadn't advanced at all since the 16th century.
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I'd like to note that while both Japan and Germany were going through their decade of revitalization, they had just become the first people to discover how to create amphetamine(Japan) and methamphetamine(Germany).

And yeah, the 200 years of peace during the Edo period cost them naval superiority big-time. Gotta stay on your grind.
 
feedtheoctopus dijo:
Why do I insist on trying to be sincere with people on the farms....what unholy great old one of faggotry guides my hand...?

Dude, people are people. Everybody acts like our differences are these huge, extreme, things but they aren't. It's the same shit. Everywhere. In every culture, in every country, people are the fucking same. I'm a pale ass, easily muggable, little jackass. I've also, because poverty, lived in some pretty fucking bad (read: black and spanish) neighborhoods. I never once had a problem with anybody. Before I moved to said places I always got the same spiel from the suburbanites and conservatives in my life, that I was moving into a warzone. Reality was just poor people with kids and shit living their lives. The roots of our divisions are an extreme, tiny, minority of people such as yourself who insist on imposing your own retarded view of utopia on the rest of us. Nobody else wants it or cares about. Most people, bless em', know the world is fucked up but are trying their best not to let it turn them into the kind of person who did the fucking up.

Fact is if everyone just stopped fucking voting based on their fears and let everyone else live in peace we wouldn't have these problems. But America, in its infinite dumbassery, has yet to learn this lesson. Not that it's unique, but like anybody gives a fuck about Burma.

I see people from all over the world, from all different races and creeds, live with each other every day of my life. No, we don't always get along, because again, people. People in general don't always get along. But I want you to explain to me how political movements based on the assumption of a war of all against all, the idea of peace being impossible, and the inherent superiority of one over the other and the gradual extermination of all weakness, is going to magically make America more fun and loving?

Actually don't answer that, because you're going to say "YES!" and it's going to be retarded. Because you're retarded, and your snarky answers are retarded, and I totally had sex with your mom and I'm MOVING IN, SON!
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Never once did I advocate for war against other races, or extermination of all weakness. Sounds like you're projecting some gay idealized version of a race war onto what I said. I think forcing different races with vastly different values and culture to live on top of each other will just breed conflict, and I don't think that's a crazy stance to take. The fact is, nobody is gonna stop voting on their fears, especially in this day and age. But sure, go ahead and explain to me that I want to impose some shitty utopia on society or whatever faggy strawman you came up with.
 
The last couple of pages is exactly the result of "critical thinking" as it relates to critical theory. Not to seek any understanding or truth, but to constantly criticize and make understanding impossible. This autistic debate about what exactly is white is dumb as fuck.

Aristotle also said that you have to use the right level of magnification for something. That if you're speaking about large state matters that you necessarily have to speak and think in broad strokes, but if you're trying to judge someone in court, then you need close level of magnification and get the exact facts about the person.

Saying "white" is just broad strokes and nobody is really this confused about it. Critical theorists and its often unwitting adherants will happily speak about the horrible things white people have done and nobody is confused about who they're talking about. But then when people want to speak out in defense of this unrelenting attack of "dear white people" media and academia, then suddenly you hear the smug chuckles "What is white?"

It's such a dishonest conversation. And it's there to stop discussion and terminate thought.
 
Yautja dijo:
You say a lot of things but don't think critically at all about the reasons those things might be. You talk about how the media changes perception but it doesn't cross your mind at all that hey maybe people have these preconceptions because the media is constantly fixating on crime and race? There's entire subsections of the US that would react the exact same way despite not knowing any data on crime, and having never met a black person.


This just isn't true, but you don't interact with nonwhites so you don't see it. Does the media advertise it when blacks kill other blacks? Fuck no, it's not interesting news, black communities however have tons of activist groups examining black on black violence. But again, you don't interact with blacks irl. You can literally just look up "Stop gun violence [insert black city]" and you'll get guaranteed results. Just say you don't like black people, don't be a faggot and make shit up for the fuck of it
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Most of my closest friends are non-white. Some even are black. But none of my black friends act like niggers. In fact, for the most part they don't even like their own race, because of the way they act.

I don't give a shit about ending black on black violence. Aren't my people who are getting drive-by'd for some petty nigger rivalry. However, summing it up to purely economic factors is a scapegoat. I know black people who act and live normal law-abiding lives. Which proves to me that blacks are capible of not being niggers. Which in turn, makes me not want to give the any excuses.
 
J.R. Bob Dobbs dijo:
Most of my closest friends are non-white. Some even are black. But none of my black friends act like niggers. In fact, for the most part they don't even like their own race, because of the way they act.

I don't give a shit about ending black on black violence. Aren't my people who are getting drive-by'd for some petty nigger rivalry. However, summing it up to purely economic factors is a scapegoat. I know black people who act and live normal law-abiding lives. Which proves to me that blacks are capible of not being niggers. Which in turn, makes me not want to give the any excuses.
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Half the people in this thread have never even talked to a black person I bet. I did humanitarian aid in Somalia and Nigeria. There are some, a rare minority, who can escape the crab bucket but the vast majority will always be niggers.
 
WolfeTone dijo:
I love Japan and Japanese history and all. But I'm seriously wondering as I cross-reference my memory on this. Did Japan ever actually create anything of note that wasn't just a modified version of what they got from other countries?

(ninjas don't count, they're just really based mercenaries, and samurai are knights, which most modern cultures have convergently evolved)
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I mean gunpowder and printing weren't first invented in europe either. Inventions can come independantly of each other. Ivermectine was invented in japan. The taste umami. Lithium ion battery. The laptop. The first microprocessor. 3 D printing. CD's were a join dutch/japanese invention. Flash memory. LCD monitors. They have a pretty decent list of inventions.

KylesDickIsOut dijo:
Half the people in this thread have never even talked to a black person I bet. I did humanitarian aid in Somalia and Nigeria. There are some, a rare minority, who can escape the crab bucket but the vast majority will always be niggers.
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I think they think they're all like the couple of black people that escape black majority living spaces. I did humanitarian work too, but in Ethiopia. Is there any quicker way for people to become "racists"?

When you're getting hospital beds to help people survive, but the patients keep stealing the beds, when you're observing how plumbing is built, but people keep stealing the potholes for the iron value, when people start falling into them and their solution is to turn off streetlights at night to make them harder to steal, but they're still stolen, so now you have holes in the street and no lighting... that's when you're know you're dealing with africans.

When you're trying to help abducted kids that were forced into child armies, and you've got schools ready to take the kids in, it's funded with western help, but the last thing you need is the legal consent of their parents, and the parents say: "Okay, what if we allow you to move our kids from that army to your school... what will you do for us if we help you?"... that's when you know you're dealing with africans.

When there is plenty of arable land, but rather than walk 10 meters further, they decide to plant their crops on top of the cemetery where last week their buried their mother, that's when you know you're dealing with africans.

The white man made them do this, but we don't know what white means.
 
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KylesDickIsOut dijo:
Half the people in this thread have never even talked to a black person I bet. I did humanitarian aid in Somalia and Nigeria. There are some, a rare minority, who can escape the crab bucket but the vast majority will always be niggers.
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The bucket is not made of flesh
 
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