US US Politics General - Discussion of President Biden and other politicians

 

[Dammit Mandrake!]

I smuggled this over the DMZ for you to enjoy. Low video quality since the video doesn't really matter.

The Gaggle 672 - Russia and China Announce Global Strategic Partnership
If you want more, just let me know. They stopped uploading their videos to YouTube and only host them on Locals now. It's usually pretty good stuff. At the very least I'll try to remember to throw you guys their weekly thumbs up and thumbs down. It's a nice alternate opinion on events.

 

[Sekirodiealot]

 

[The Ugly One]

Correct me if my history is wrong but isn't this like what happened under carter? The economy was fucked and Volcker was brought in to fix it and rates got hiked to the moon leading to a recovery just in time for the new president (Reagan) to reap the rewards.

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Interest rate hike to stop inflation + tax & regulatory reform + putting women to work.

The economy isn't overtaxed in 2022. We have no children and tons of dead weight, and the women are already working.

 

[BelUwUga]

You can just google 0% lowers nowadays

Right... I'm going to use google and my debit card at a fire-arms focused retailer that's specifically labelled for manufacturing a firearm. Considering how prolific the NSA is I'll opt out of that specific glowie list, thanks. I can get aluminum in higher quantities for lower costs per-unit or about the same at size from my raw materials supplier. I already have a band saw to cut it to size. My 4-axis CNC and some files I already have would make short work of roughing a lower out. I have enough manual tooling and precision grinding equipment to crank out factory-quality units. Pretty much if it is smaller than a loaf of bread I can mill/turn it.

Edit: Also aluminum is EZPZ to learn/set up annodizing for. I would need some chemicals but as far as hardware and equipment I have everything else on-hand.

 

[spinal gas chamber]

Correct me if my history is wrong but isn't this like what happened under carter? The economy was fucked and Volcker was brought in to fix it and rates got hiked to the moon leading to a recovery just in time for the new president (Reagan) to reap the rewards.

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You aren’t entirely wrong but Carter hadn’t had a ton of money injected. That fact alone fucked us from an inflation standpoint.

 

[LUNEKO]

The economy isn't overtaxed in 2022. We have no children and tons of dead weight, and the women are already working.

The solution is simple then, allow for taxed children labor.
Clearly its time for the useless parasites to contribute, they had it too good for too long

 

[Godzilla@1989]

The last 7 or 8 years have taught me that the elites are largely some of the dumbest motherfuckers alive, and the people you thought were in charge mostly think this country sucks and hate the people who live here.

I sometimes theorize that these buffoons are driven by vendettas. They grew up spoiled brats that were handed everything and everyone righteously mocked them for being entitled and that was a blow to their egos. Now older and bitter, these elites want to punish those who laughed at them by economically and socially raping us.

The Obamas, Clintons, and Biden unleashed a new sense of egotism and arrogance among their fellow liberals. A sense of self indulgence, patronizing, ignorance, and selfishness. These toxic behavior has creeped into the DNC for the last eight years and it has made its members screech “anti-white” rhetoric and pissing off the blue collar working class the Democrats used to champion for. Now in 2022, with a nearly eighty year man as the most despised president in the last twenty years due to mismanagement towards a pandemic, crippling economy with inflation, and a disastrous end to Afghanistan that crushed our national spirit, it’s looking like the toxic behavior of the elites might finally fuck them for good.

 

[Vaclav]

Right, to get to this. The Democrats as an institution would be rendered utterly unelectable. This is actually a bad thing. They'd see their political power wane which would give rise to the most violent elements that remain and begin a feedback loop of losing power so more violence so losing power. That's how it would start. See The Troubles from Ireland, but without a clear goal. Just undirected anger and violence.

Its radiating effects would be... catastrophic. The U.S. would be paralyzed and utterly unable to continue being the hegemon of the world. Various wars our presence prevented would kick off within only a couple year at most. China would collapse too, so there is that. But expect Russia to stop giving a fuck and every major regional power to begin a series of power seizures.

This doesn't make sense to me. The hypothetical is about the Dems meeting with catastrophic failure, losing the confidence of the public, and then trying to do something underhanded to recover, getting caught and losing all legitimacy.

They have the power they have because they can make things happen for people. The tech companies banish all right-wing thought and allow Antifa to organize on their platforms because they think the Dems will create conditions favorable to them in return. If public faith in the Dems is totally destroyed and the party tries to somehow go scorched earth and make sure no one can have the US if they can't, their powerful backers won't go along with it. Antifa will have their comms and possibly their jawbones shut down. The deep state is concerned foremost with self-preservation, and if the left decides to trash the country they will pivot to the right and have the street-level organizers purged out of necessity. Like someone said, the extreme leftists have very few numbers, just extensive infiltration into powerful institutions, but those institutions will not follow them on a suicidal path. They'll do what they need to survive and build a narrative that justifies it later.

If the hypothetical scenario were to happen, I would guess that the senior leadership of the Dems get purged - convenient, since they're all ancient, and their kids would keep all their corrupt investments. Some mid-level people would get jail time and the party would go into the wilderness for a long period outside of the most hardcore blue hives. Republicans would probably make backroom deals to keep the D party somewhat viable, since having a party fall would create a greater risk to them, a risk of real populists rising and threatening the two-party system. After a couple decades the crimes of the past would be papered over and a new generation of Dems would emerge on the political scene.

 

[northstar747]

Correct me if my history is wrong but isn't this like what happened under carter? The economy was fucked and Volcker was brought in to fix it and rates got hiked to the moon leading to a recovery just in time for the new president (Reagan) to reap the rewards.

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I hate to cite youtube and I cant find the video.

the the inflation volcker fought started in the under nixon. TPTB knew the economy needed a "restart" inflation numbers got "adjusted" blamed on oil embargos, el nino etc.

Volcker didnt wave a magic wand instead he played some word game and didnt call his interest rate hike a rate hike and called it something else. The fed chairs agreed and we almost hit 20% interest.

The advantage is this, when you clear bad debt out of the system and stop draining resources for unproductive work...it fucking hurts but then you have people find better uses for those resources etc.

 

[Gehenna]

This doesn't make sense to me. The hypothetical is about the Dems meeting with catastrophic failure, losing the confidence of the public, and then trying to do something underhanded to recover, getting caught and losing all legitimacy.

They have the power they have because they can make things happen for people. The tech companies banish all right-wing thought and allow Antifa to organize on their platforms because they think the Dems will create conditions favorable to them in return. If public faith in the Dems is totally destroyed and the party tries to somehow go scorched earth and make sure no one can have the US if they can't, their powerful backers won't go along with it. Antifa will have their comms and possibly their jawbones shut down. The deep state is concerned foremost with self-preservation, and if the left decides to trash the country they will pivot to the right and have the street-level organizers purged out of necessity. Like someone said, the extreme leftists have very few numbers, just extensive infiltration into powerful institutions, but those institutions will not follow them on a suicidal path. They'll do what they need to survive and build a narrative that justifies it later.

If the hypothetical scenario were to happen, I would guess that the senior leadership of the Dems get purged - convenient, since they're all ancient, and their kids would keep all their corrupt investments. Some mid-level people would get jail time and the party would go into the wilderness for a long period outside of the most hardcore blue hives. Republicans would probably make backroom deals to keep the D party somewhat viable, since having a party fall would create a greater risk to them, a risk of real populists rising and threatening the two-party system. After a couple decades the crimes of the past would be papered over and a new generation of Dems would emerge on the political scene.

The problem with your rebuttal is that if the Democrats go full nutjob the American populace wouldn't be satisfied with that shallow version. They'd remember for a long time how it went down. The entire brand that is Democrats would be tarnished for a long. long time,

There is no backroom deal around that, no sly play of media, no way to just handwave it and go on as normal. Things just don't work like that and even in your rebuttal, you are just trying to handwave it. Trying to claim they'd just somehow be able to get past it without actually saying how.

 

[Vaclav]

The problem with your rebuttal is that if the Democrats go full nutjob the American populace wouldn't be satisfied with that shallow version. They'd remember for a long time how it went down. The entire brand that is Democrats would be tarnished for a long. long time,

There is no backroom deal around that, no sly play of media, no way to just handwave it and go on as normal. Things just don't work like that and even in your rebuttal, you are just trying to handwave it. Trying to claim they'd just somehow be able to get past it without actually saying how.

I've learned not to underestimate the media's power to bury inconvenient history. Like that FBI guy said, people don't remember there were hundreds of domestic bombings a year during the 70s.

However, that power does have its limits. If the Dems become truly, irreparably tarnished as a brand, the Uniparty will most likely cooperate to build and brand a new party on the spot. They wouldn't want a chaotic Whig/Republican handoff. The two-party dynamic would remain and most of the people who were in comfortable positions before would stay that way. The elderly faces of the Dems would disappear, the most egregious offenders would get some form of penalty and life would go on. They might call it the "Progressive Party" and populate the leadership with puppets like AOC, who start out making a lot of left-wing noise but rapidly capitulate to the point their their platform is indistinguishable from the Dems in a few years.

I don't see how an attempt to burn down the US wouldn't lose them all their powerful supporters. It would appeal to the drug addicts Antifa recruits to bash heads, since their fondest wish is to destroy themselves and the world with them, but your average #Resistance soccer moms and Harvard-grad political consultants would piss themselves and join the Republicans if they faced a true loss of their status quo.

 

[The Ugly One]

Reminder that the Democrats control:

1. The media
2. The entire education system from K through PhD
3. Every federal government agency
4. Most state government agencies
5. All human resources departments
6. The banking system
7. All major online payments systems
8. All major internet communication services
9. All major city governments

They're going to be fine.

 

[MirrorNoir]

This doesn't make sense to me. The hypothetical is about the Dems meeting with catastrophic failure, losing the confidence of the public, and then trying to do something underhanded to recover, getting caught and losing all legitimacy.

They have the power they have because they can make things happen for people. The tech companies banish all right-wing thought and allow Antifa to organize on their platforms because they think the Dems will create conditions favorable to them in return. If public faith in the Dems is totally destroyed and the party tries to somehow go scorched earth and make sure no one can have the US if they can't, their powerful backers won't go along with it. Antifa will have their comms and possibly their jawbones shut down. The deep state is concerned foremost with self-preservation, and if the left decides to trash the country they will pivot to the right and have the street-level organizers purged out of necessity. Like someone said, the extreme leftists have very few numbers, just extensive infiltration into powerful institutions, but those institutions will not follow them on a suicidal path. They'll do what they need to survive and build a narrative that justifies it later.

If the hypothetical scenario were to happen, I would guess that the senior leadership of the Dems get purged - convenient, since they're all ancient, and their kids would keep all their corrupt investments. Some mid-level people would get jail time and the party would go into the wilderness for a long period outside of the most hardcore blue hives. Republicans would probably make backroom deals to keep the D party somewhat viable, since having a party fall would create a greater risk to them, a risk of real populists rising and threatening the two-party system. After a couple decades the crimes of the past would be papered over and a new generation of Dems would emerge on the political scene.

You assume the deep state don't share the nihilistic attitudes of the DNC in this scenario.

The Deep State alone acts as though it is beyond reproach when it came to how they repeatedly sabotaged Trump and I can easily see them having the same end goals as the Democrats in that the Democrats will let them do as they please, fuck the rules and fuck the law and more to the point, most likely will let them go beyond what the GOP will allow them to do under the current status quo as far as the deep state being the first in line for the cushy and bloody jobs as the DNC's KGB/Gestapo, doing unspeakable thing is to people the Democrats want "vanished".

Hell, a dictatorship would be up the deep state's alley especially since the Democrats will need them to kill their political enemies and their followers who become too uppity for their likings. The deep state gets to live out their KGB/Gestapo fantasies and I'm sure the Democrats might even allow them to start a war or three while they are at it overseas to distract from the DNC going all Pinochet on the masses.

 

[Aidan]

I've learned not to underestimate the media's power to bury inconvenient history. Like that FBI guy said, people don't remember there were hundreds of domestic bombings a year during the 70s.

However, that power does have its limits. If the Dems become truly, irreparably tarnished as a brand, the Uniparty will most likely cooperate to build and brand a new party on the spot. They wouldn't want a chaotic Whig/Republican handoff. The two-party dynamic would remain and most of the people who were in comfortable positions before would stay that way. The elderly faces of the Dems would disappear, the most egregious offenders would get some form of penalty and life would go on. They might call it the "Progressive Party" and populate the leadership with puppets like AOC, who start out making a lot of left-wing noise but rapidly capitulate to the point their their platform is indistinguishable from the Dems in a few years.

I don't see how an attempt to burn down the US wouldn't lose them all their powerful supporters. It would appeal to the drug addicts Antifa recruits to bash heads, since their fondest wish is to destroy themselves and the world with them, but your average #Resistance soccer moms and Harvard-grad political consultants would piss themselves and join the Republicans if they faced a true loss of their status quo.

I agree the uniparty would build a new, more cooperative, Democratic Party, but I think the existing brain rot among even the so-called "elites" is such that they'd never hop teams just to stay on the side of victory except for maybe some career politicians. Those involved in academia, media, and other long-held institutions are in it 'til the end and would have to be replaced by new blood.
Big tech and similar leaders I could see hopping but they already play with whoever is willing behind the scenes.

 

[MirrorNoir]

So how much of the money illegally confiscated by Go Fund Me that was supposed to go to the Canadian trucker protests are going to be funneled to the BLM folks to cause more race riots this spring and summer to help the Democrats keep control over Congress? Or for abortion riots when the DNC has pro-abortion groups start burning shit down when Roe Vs Wade gets overturned to help the Democrats keep Congress?

 

[Vaclav]

When the so called 'Gods of Capital' demand the PMCs bring them 'their' corn so the mercs can buy it at inflated prices with corp scrip they will rapidly find themselves in that scene with Bane.
"I'm in charge here!"
"Do you feel in charge?"
"I've paid you so much money....."
"And this gives you power over me?"

This is a point I've made before about the neoliberal/PMC/bugman complex. They're not able to inspire loyalty in people. People will fight and die for their ethnic group or their religion and the United States was founded on an idea and a mythos that many people believe is worth dying for. What does globalism offer? Netflix and iPhones? Creature comforts don't breed genuine loyalty. The people who serve the globalist system are mercenaries working for a paycheck or slaves working because they're threatened. Both will run in the face of danger, because the system they serve doesn't offer them real meaning.

 

[Snekposter]

See i don't believe that - because you'd have to be blind to wanna fuck Kamala.

If Willie Brown is a believable source, she gives really, really good head.

Speaking of McConnell, anyone remember this gem of a thread?
https://kiwifarms.net/threads/sitti...ch-mcconnell-confirms-his-8999th-judge.68133/

Nobody knows parliamentary procedure and rule like he does. And he takes any attempts to fuck with his domain personally. Such as Chuck Schumer changing the judicial rules for his own benefit. "All right fuck face, you want to change the rules so you can get your judges through, even though I warned you and everyone around you you would regret this? Time for you to see just how bad things really are now."

 

[northstar747]

So how much of the money illegally confiscated by Go Fund Me that was supposed to go to the Canadian trucker protests are going to be funneled to the BLM folks to cause more race riots this spring and summer to help the Democrats keep control over Congress? Or for abortion riots when the DNC has pro-abortion groups start burning shit down when Roe Vs Wade gets overturned to help the Democrats keep Congress?

BLM IMO is dead, it was run by grifters who were more sloppy than trans life line. The goverment is looking into 60 million disappearing and tax implications.

The other problem with the summer of love is that I m sure part of it was a fucking psy-op to make trump a tyrant etc. In short they were projecting the "deep state" "cabal" what ever you wanna call it's view that trump wasnt legitimate and lost the mandate of the people.

The MSM cant play that same game again because we have a legitimate admin who of course has the mandate of the people.

 

[Sekirodiealot]

How do y'all feel about Mike pence and the dems singing his praise?

 

[Drag-on Knight 91873]

How do y'all feel about Mike pence and the dems singing his praise?

Who cares what a RINO says?