US Biden’s false claim that the 2nd Amendment bans cannon ownership - “And I might add: The Second Amendment, from the day it was passed, limited the type of people who could own a gun and what type of weapon you could own. You couldn’t buy a cannon.”

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The president offered this aside as he made a litany of his regular points about the need for background checks and what he says was the effectiveness of bans on assault weapons and large-capacity magazines that expired.

Parenthetical asides from a prepared text often trip up presidents, especially Biden. In this case, he repeated a claim — that Americans were prohibited from owning cannons — that has already been fact-checked as false when he made it during the presidential campaign.

The Facts​

The cannon element is what mostly interests us here, but we should also address Biden’s framing about the Second Amendment, which was part of the Bill of Rights adopted in 1791.

The meaning of the Second Amendment — “A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed” — has long been debated. But experts said Biden especially mischaracterized it.

“Everything in that statement is wrong,” said David Kopel, the research director and Second Amendment project director at the Independence Institute. After 1791, “there were no federal laws about the type of gun you could own, and no states limited the kind of gun you could own.” Not until the early 1800s were there any efforts to pass restrictions on carrying concealed weapons, he said.

“I think what he’s saying here is that the Second Amendment was never understood to guarantee everyone the right to own all types of weapons, which I believe is true,” said Kermit Roosevelt, a constitutional law professor at the University of Pennsylvania. “As phrased, it sounds like the Second Amendment itself limited ownership, which is not true.”

Kopel noted that some states placed gun-ownership restrictions on Native American tribes, including orders to disarm them, but the tribes under the Constitution at the time were treated as the equivalent of foreign nations.

Interestingly, during the campaign, Biden had asserted that the cannon restrictions happened during the Revolutionary War. “From the very beginning you weren’t allowed to have certain weapons,” Biden told Wired magazine in May 2020. “You weren’t allowed to own a cannon during the Revolutionary War as an individual.”

Historians at the time told PolitiFact there was no evidence this was the case. The Biden campaign could not point to any laws but seemed to suggest Biden’s point was more metaphorical than grounded in reality.

Now Biden has moved the cannon metaphor to some 20 years after the Revolutionary War — and it’s still wrong.

In fact, you do not have to look far in the Constitution to see that private individuals could own cannons. Article 1, Section 8, Clause 11 gives Congress the power to declare war. But there is another element of that clause that might seem strange to modern ears — Congress also had the power to “grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal.”

What’s that? These were special waivers that allowed private individuals to act as pirates on behalf of the United States against countries engaged in war with it. The “letter of marque” allowed a warship to cross into another country’s territory to take a ship, while a “letter of reprisal” gave authorization to bring the ship back to the home port of the capturer.

Individuals who were given these waivers and owned warships obviously also obtained cannons for use in battle.

The White House did not provide an explanation of Biden’s comment.

The Pinocchio Test​

Some readers might think this is a relatively inconsequential flub. But we disagree. Every U.S. president has a responsibility to get American history correct, especially when he’s using a supposed history lesson in service of a political objective. The president’s push for more gun restrictions is an important part of his political platform, so he undercuts his cause when he cites faux facts.

Moreover, Biden has already been fact-checked on this claim — and it’s been deemed false. We have no idea where he conjured up this notion about a ban on cannon ownership in the early days of the Republic, but he needs to stop making this claim.

Four Pinocchios

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I don't think this is Biden's first set of 4 Pinocchios but I'm still shocked WaPo is at it again. I have to assume that shitting on Biden is better for revenue than the usual propaganda as it's becoming more common.
 
Does this, or any other mushbrained nigger, wonder how exactly private merchant vessels used to defend themselves?
 
Own a musket for home defense, since that's what the founding fathers intended. Four ruffians break into my house. "What the devil?" As I grab my powdered wig and Kentucky rifle. Blow a golf ball sized hole through the first man, he's dead on the spot. Draw my pistol on the second man, miss him entirely because it's smoothbore and nails the neighbors dog. I have to resort to the cannon mounted at the top of the stairs loaded with grape shot,
"Tally ho lads" the grape shot shreds two men in the blast, the sound and extra shrapnel set off car alarms. Fix bayonet and charge the last terrified rapscallion. He bleeds out waiting on the police to arrive since triangular bayonet wounds are impossible to stitch up. Just as the founding fathers intended.
 
Own a musket for home defense, since that's what the founding fathers intended. Four ruffians break into my house. "What the devil?" As I grab my powdered wig and Kentucky rifle. Blow a golf ball sized hole through the first man, he's dead on the spot. Draw my pistol on the second man, miss him entirely because it's smoothbore and nails the neighbors dog. I have to resort to the cannon mounted at the top of the stairs loaded with grape shot,
"Tally ho lads" the grape shot shreds two men in the blast, the sound and extra shrapnel set off car alarms. Fix bayonet and charge the last terrified rapscallion. He bleeds out waiting on the police to arrive since triangular bayonet wounds are impossible to stitch up. Just as the founding fathers intended.
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In fact, you do not have to look far in the Constitution to see that private individuals could own cannons. Article 1, Section 8, Clause 11 gives Congress the power to declare war. But there is another element of that clause that might seem strange to modern ears — Congress also had the power to “grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal.”

Is that still on the books? could need such a letter- stealing slaves and rum from Cuba sounds fun.
 
I don't think this is Biden's first set of 4 Pinocchios but I'm still shocked WaPo is at it again. I have to assume that shitting on Biden is better for revenue than the usual propaganda as it's becoming more common.
I always considered being a Democrat as politics on easy mode because the press is usually pretty forgiving and you have to really fuck up to fail. The fact that the press can't prop him up anymore is almost surreal.
 
I think the last incident that I've heard of, wherein one American credibly threatened to use a cannon on another, came from the days just prior to Prohibition. The Anti-Saloon League came to some guy's bar and he stuck a cannon out of the front door and told them to GTFO.
 
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Own a musket for home defense, since that's what the founding fathers intended. Four ruffians break into my house. "What the devil?" As I grab my powdered wig and Kentucky rifle. Blow a golf ball sized hole through the first man, he's dead on the spot. Draw my pistol on the second man, miss him entirely because it's smoothbore and nails the neighbors dog. I have to resort to the cannon mounted at the top of the stairs loaded with grape shot,
"Tally ho lads" the grape shot shreds two men in the blast, the sound and extra shrapnel set off car alarms. Fix bayonet and charge the last terrified rapscallion. He bleeds out waiting on the police to arrive since triangular bayonet wounds are impossible to stitch up. Just as the founding fathers intended.
This is my favorite pasta.

As far as this article is concerned, make canon ownership mandatory. Also, if anyone can point me towards a good American manufactured Kentucky rifle, hit me up.
 
It's absurd how ignorant our own president is over what the Bill of Rights actually says or how he expects people to just take him at his word when you can just Google what it fucking says & see for yourself that it makes no restrictions as to what kind of armaments you can own whatsoever. Does Joe Biden think himself akin to a pre-Reformation priest that plebs need to recite the Bible because they can't speak Latin, or is it that he's never fucking read the Bill of Rights and just shoots at the dark as to what it actually says? This is the same faggot who thinks you can't shout "fire!" in a crowded theater, after all.
 
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I don't think this is Biden's first set of 4 Pinocchios but I'm still shocked WaPo is at it again. I have to assume that shitting on Biden is better for revenue than the usual propaganda as it's becoming more common.
The media has been mostly loosed against biden, he's now an acceptable target.

Notice how the attitude towards him appeared to change overnight?
 
He should say that in front of some yehawin cowboys tank cannon
 
I always considered being a Democrat as politics on easy mode because the press is usually pretty forgiving and you have to really fuck up to fail. The fact that the press can't prop him up anymore is almost surreal.
I've often joked that the press would defend Adolf Hitler if he was a Democrat, but honestly it's a sigh of relief that they're finally calling this brain dead potato out on his obvious lies.

Of all the people they could have primaried they really did choose the worst one. Absolute, total failure on everything, and I'm not saying that just because I disagree with him on 2A.

If I was still a Democrat I'd be crying into my beer at the absolute stupid I'm witnessing.
 
Muzzle loading cannons aren't regulated as anything

In the US .50 caliber is the difference between firearms and artillery (The rest of the world uses 20mm) but a black powder muzzle loading cannon isn't classified as anything.

This is a pretty weird argument.
 
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