Science Popularizing Uterus Transplants into Biological Males


The “patriach of bioethics” was a man named Joseph Fletcher. A former Episopal priest turned atheist, he was a wild utilitarian for which virtually nothing was inherently wrong. In his last book, he pitched the then unthinkable idea that uteruses could be transplanted into men, writing back in 1988:

Transplant or replacement medicine foresees the day, after the automatic rejection of alien tissue is overcome, when a uterus can be implanted in a human male’s body—his abdomen has spaces—and gestation started by artificial fertilization and egg transfer.
Hypogonadism could be used to stimulate milk from the man’s rudimentary breasts—men too have mammary glands. If surgery could not construct a cervical canal the delivery could be effected by a Caesarean section and the male or transsexualized mother could nurse his own baby.
Fletcher wasn’t crazy, just ahead of his time (except for the use of the masculine pronoun).

Advocacy in bioethics has continued to touch on this subject, a few even calling it a fundamental human right for a biological male to receive a uterine transplant, gestate, and give birth.

Now, the idea is following the usual progressive political formula, moving from academic discourse into left-wing popular media advocacy. From an article just published in Salon:

Eyvazzadeh added that the risks and cost do not mean the transplant won’t become a more common operation in the future. Surprisingly, she thinks uterus transplants could become an option for an unexpected population: men.
“I predict with our aging population, and the rise of infertility, we will need men to share the burden of growing our population,” Eyvazzadeh said. “While some people may think this is far-fetched, it is not for the near future; I predict in maybe 200 years from now, it will be a reality.”
Transgender female patients will also be another group of people to benefit from the research into uterus transplants.
“Transgender females are also good candidates,” Eyvazzadeh said. “I am not aware of a transgender female having a uterine transplant yet.” Indeed, many doctors believe a uterus transplant could work for a transgender woman.
However, as with most surgeries and procedures that involve a uterus, Eyvazzadeh said to “absolutely” expect many future debates.
“Anytime a treatment involves a woman’s uterus, there will definitely be a debate especially when it involves IVF,” Eyvazzadeh said. “As with all new technology, they will get safer and more effective and ultimately more cost effective.”
I want us to notice a few things.

  • There is absolutely no discussion or concern of the impact on the baby — both with regard to safety and socially. I mean, do we not think that women’s biology beyond the uterus has any impact on the baby’s thriving? Are we going to say that having a “mother” who is biologically male would not impact the child’s social development?
  • There is no discussion about the primary societal purposes and limitations of medicine. The sector is increasingly viewed as a means of attaining life satisfaction and facilitating personal fulfillment, as much as promoting wellness and curing disease (starting, in my view, with cosmetic surgery and moving on from there). This has an impact on available medical resources for other necessaries. Bodily recreationism of males giving birth would materially add to this growing problem.
  • There are no moral boundaries that some don’t want to cross anymore. The impact of such social anarchy and collapse of norms beyond “anything goes” is hard to predict.
  • The transgender movement is evolving into an a subversion of the unique contributions women make to society. Mothering is too important to allow the social anarchists to distort its importance to children and the formation of families.
  • What kind of unethical research and experiments would be required to make males giving birth even workable? We already have witnessed cruelty to animals in an experiment in which researchers enabled male rats to give birth by surgically attaching them to females. Think of the other animal research that would be required to perfect the procedure and then, the human experimentation necessary to get all of the hormones and other necessaries of gestation right. This should be simply beyond contemplating.
We are so becoming so morally and socially paralized that we can’t even say “no” to the most bizarre and unnatural proposals anymore. Enabling males to give birth is not a proper role for medicine. Learning how to do it would be an abuse of the purposes of science. And it would be immoral social policy.

The idea should be rejected out of hand and no resources invested for the research required to effectuate the nightmare.
 
Sorry ladies, this is the natural result of celebrating your abortion.
Men are better at everything and now will be the best mothers too.
We can't trust you to even give birth anymore, we are going to leave it to the troons.
 
I would run for office just to pass legislation forbidding any funding of animal experimentation for the purpose of troon uterus transplants, in the US and abroad (that means you China). No federal money for troon uteri and absolute no federal money whatsoever to any institution, hospital or medical school that researches, promotes or sponsors this Frankensteinesque experimentation. There are lines that should not be crossed and this is one.
 
This is kind of thing that'll make God come back, brindled in fire.

I have a really schizo theory that the Earth was initially destroyed in the flood because humanity's DNA had been so tainted by experimentation and/or Angels spreading their seed among the population that it had to be wiped out.

Say we make this sort of thing successful (which I highly doubt), it'd probably kickstart our reckoning. This flies in the face of everything natural and good, and has deep fetishistic roots fueling its existence.
 
As the article notes, a gate has been breached and there are no moral boundaries anymore.

If we can do something, than we should. Damn the consequences and damn whether it’s good or bad.

People wanted to get rid of religion and mocked the fundies for warning about this, well this is what you get.
 
I would run for office just to pass legislation forbidding any funding of animal experimentation for the purpose of troon uterus transplants, in the US and abroad (that means you China). No federal money for troon uteri and absolute no federal money whatsoever to any institution, hospital or medical school that researches, promotes or sponsors this Frankensteinesque experimentation. There are lines that should not be crossed and this is one.

Just from the biology reality of the situation alone, I need to agree.

Not only is the chance of rejection borderline-absolute, but the sheer incompatibility of it, from a scientific perspective, would be something akin to the worst kind of medical nightmare, for both the recipient and, god help us, any occupants. Hormonal balance requirements alone would almost certainly spell doom for any child attempted to be raised in such a recipient, and the medical complications from the inevitable tissue rejection would, just on a statistical standpoint, kill anyone who received one within a year, likely much faster.

The best medical science on the planet is nowhere near the point where it can even do anything like this.
 
this is blown way out of proportion in my opinion. a functional uterus transplant that is capable of pregnancy is pure fantasy at this point.

we're more likely to see elon musk fly to mars and build the city of bogdangrad than we are to see successful male pregnancy.
 
:story: Troons can't handle being insulted without melting down, pregnancy is a fetish too far.
 
a few even calling it a fundamental human right for a biological male to receive a uterine transplant, gestate, and give birth.

There is no such thing as a fundamental human right and if there were this would not be one. This is sick and twisted, it would be more ethical to simply develop artificial wombs and probably less complex than allowing men to gestate.

"Giving birth" isn't even on the table. If this worked it would always result in csection.
 
>A former Episcopal priest turned atheist
So he went from being a satanist to a faggot to a faggot with weird fetishes.
 
With all these medical abominations, why does it have to be the balance of a scale where if you remove one thing, another is added. Should just get rid of the scale and stop trying to please troons.
 
The impossibility of them becoming women is only surpassed by that of them giving birth, I mean they are yet to even give them an axe wound that doesn't require dilation or even resembles a normal vagina in external shape or location and we're supposed to believe that perfecting a much more complex system, implanting a whole organ in a body that outright is not supposed to have it, and birthing a healthy child out of it is just around the corner?
 
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This is kind of thing that'll make God come back, brindled in fire.

I have a really schizo theory that the Earth was initially destroyed in the flood because humanity's DNA had been so tainted by experimentation and/or Angels spreading their seed among the population that it had to be wiped out.

Say we make this sort of thing successful (which I highly doubt), it'd probably kickstart our reckoning. This flies in the face of everything natural and good, and has deep fetishistic roots fueling its existence.
Hey, not so skitzo. I mean, I heard a theory that the animals referred to on the Ark were actually DNA strands of said animals which is how they all got on that damn Ark.

Repeating what I said in another thread: "they" sure have been successful in flipping good into evil and evil into good.
Crazy pills. I must have a thousand empty bottles collected by now.
 
One less thing men are proving they need a woman for: making more men. That's all these articles, operations, and posts are doing is proving to me that men absolute hate women and that the sooner they can find a way to do everything a woman can do from physically to biologically they will then go full 'Handmaid's Tale" on the female genome.
 
this is blown way out of proportion in my opinion. a functional uterus transplant that is capable of pregnancy is pure fantasy at this point.

we're more likely to see elon musk fly to mars and build the city of bogdangrad than we are to see successful male pregnancy.
It's the left's version of the right's taunt of "ha ha, sexbot go brrrrrrrrrrrr!" - a pithy little jab that shows how bonkers the other side's extreme is by making them get pissed off over the theoretical capabilities of not-yet-invented devices that aren't LIKELY to be invented or become mainstream.

"ha ha, artificial uterus go brrrrrrr!" is just the flipped side of that coin. - they don't exist, they aren't likely to exist, if they do, they probably won't work, but even the smallest hint they might sets the hardcore off, indigent that such a thing is even allowed to theoretically exist/be discussed.
 
Even if this were possible the troon womb recipient still wouldn't be a real woman.
 
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