EU Germany locks down unvaccinated people, as leaders plan to make shots compulsory


Berlin (CNN)
- Germany on Thursday announced a nationwide lockdown for the unvaccinated, as its leaders backed plans for mandatory vaccinations in the coming months.

Unvaccinated people will be banned from accessing all but the most essential businesses, such as supermarkets and pharmacies, to curb the spread of coronavirus, outgoing Chancellor Angela Merkel and her successor, Olaf Scholz, announced Thursday, following crisis talks with regional leaders. Those who have recently recovered from Covid-19 are not covered by the ban.
The pair also backed proposals for mandatory vaccinations, which if voted through the parliament could take effect from February at the earliest.

Under the tightened restrictions, unvaccinated people can only meet two people from another household. Bars and nightclubs must shut down in areas with an incidence rate above 350 cases per 100,000 people over one week. And the country would limit the number of people at large events like soccer matches.

The announcement comes as Germany battles a surge in cases that has pushed Europe back to the epicenter of the pandemic, heightening fears over the newly discovered Omicron variant.
The press briefing is also Merkel's last before she leaves office; a grim note to end her 16 years as German chancellor.

"We have understood that the situation is very serious and that we want to take further measures in addition to those already taken," Merkel told reporters at Thursday's news conference. "The fourth wave must be broken and this has not yet been achieved," she added.

A nationwide vaccination mandate could come into effect from February 2022 -- after it is debated in parliament and following guidance from Germany's Ethics Council, Merkel said.
She added that vaccinated people will lose their vaccination status nine months after getting their last shot, apparently in an effort to encourage booster uptake.

Europe mulls mandates​

If approved, Germany's vaccine mandate would follow in the footsteps of neighboring Austria, which also plans to make inoculations for eligible adults compulsory from February.

Elsewhere, Greece announced that vaccines would be mandatory for people aged over 60 from mid-January. Those refusing to do so would face 100 euro (US $113) fines for each passing month, the government said Tuesday.

European Union Commission President Ursula von der Leyen said it was time to "potentially think about mandatory vaccination" within the bloc, as it faces the double onslaught of a fourth coronavirus wave and concerns over the Omicron variant discovered by South African health officials last week.

"Two or three years ago, I would never have thought to witness what we see right now, that we have this horrible pandemic, we have the vaccines, the life-saving vaccines, but they are not being used adequately everywhere," von der Leyen told a press briefing Wednesday.

"How we can encourage and potentially think about mandatory vaccination within the European Union, this needs discussion. This needs a common approach but it is a discussion that I think has to be led," she added.

Germany, much like Austria, has one of the lowest vaccination rates in western Europe, with 68.4% and 65.6% of eligible adults vaccinated respectively, according to the ECDC.

Surging cases​

Germany continues to see a record-breaking number of cases, particularly in its eastern states. On Wednesday, the country recorded 446 Covid-19 related deaths -- its highest number of daily deaths in nine months.

Many hospitals are struggling to cope with the increasing number of intensive care patients. There could be around 6,000 Covid-19 patients in intensive care by Christmas -- regardless of any measures implemented by Germany's leaders -- the country's Interdisciplinary Association for Intensive Care and Emergency (Divi) warned Wednesday.

Already, more than 102,000 people in Germany have died as a result of coronavirus, according to the Robert Koch Institute (RKI), the national disease and control center.

CNN's Sheena McKenzie contributed to this report
 
How would it be rural if 1. Dresden was a city of massive cultural and practical importance and 2. The rubble and population would make it impossible for the land to just be left alone.
I said it would be a lot cooler, not that it would be logistically sensible.
Seems like you liked Ruby Ridge too.
Government agents acting on the orders of urban bugmen slaughtering rural citizens of their own nation =/= bombing the cities of a foreign state that you are literally at war with
 
I said it would be a lot cooler, not that it would be logistically sensible.

Government agents acting on the orders of urban bugmen slaughtering rural citizens of their own nation =/= bombing the cities of a foreign state that you are literally at war with
What’s to say bugmen didn’t swing both ways. Also to keep on topic fuck Merkel, the only thing that should be similar to her and Bismarck should be bullets in the chest.
 
We both agree on this one.

Also how the fuck is that bitch still in power in a "democracy"?
Chancellors don’t have term limits and here’s a fun fact. The German government tried to vote on if they can tax German citizens who aren’t in the country (my mom). So that was one bigger clusterfuck.
 
So what will be next draconian measure once they do this shit for awhile and covid still doesn't go away? Who will they blame when the unvaccinated are no longer in the picture?
The anti-science shitlords who only got two shots and one booster, when THE SCIENCE says you need 2 shots, 2 boosters and an anti-Omicron update jab.
 
The Fourth Reich rises. Merkel is a fucking Nazi.


That wouldn't legally fit the definition of murder. Cut and dry self-defense case.

Sadly, that's the only way this will ever stop: if Americans remember how to kill tyrants.

Merkel was and probably still is a commie. She was in top East German commie youth leadership during Soviet times, most def a Stazi agent.
 
shouldn't compulsory shots open up the state to civil litigation
on the basis that any complications as a result of the shot could have been prevented had they not been forced to take it
leaving it to choice removes that liability.
Not really since you still got compulsed to do the shot to get past imposed restriction, the "removing liability" reason is an hoax
 
What classes as unvaccinated?

Will that change come February?
Good question. Israel a month or two ago classified 3 shots as vaccinated, so a whole number of their population who was double dosed and fully compliant suddenly found themselves considered "unvaccinated".

I would guess that Germany would do the same. Have to be fully vaccinated, all 3 (4 by 2022?) shots. This is utterly pointless, as the whole media stirrup is how this variant just slips past all 3 vaccinations.
 
Is this true?
They already have a mandatory non mandatory situation there. Buddy of a relative works for a part of VW there. If you’re not double vaxxed you have to get a test every day to be able to enter even working. and those tests are about 40 Euro each??? So they make you pay to be able to go to work?
What the fuck?
 
Is this true?
They already have a mandatory non mandatory situation there. Buddy of a relative works for a part of VW there. If you’re not double vaxxed you have to get a test every day to be able to enter even working. and those tests are about 40 Euro each??? So they make you pay to be able to go to work?
What the fuck?
For a week. 2 tests have to be provided by the employer. In addition at least 1 free test at a test center is offered and that limitation only applies if the centers capacity is reached. So in the worst case it's 3 free tests for a week.

Test prices vary between 15 and 40 Euros. So if you have a 5 day week you pay between 30 and 80 Euros and for a 6 day week you pay 45 to 120 Euros.
 
For a week. 2 tests have to be provided by the employer. In addition at least 1 free test at a test center is offered and that limitation only applies if the centers capacity is reached. So in the worst case it's 3 free tests for a week.

Test prices vary between 15 and 40 Euros. So if you have a 5 day week you pay between 30 and 80 Euros and for a 6 day week you pay 45 to 120 Euros.
That’s so fucked up i can’t even…
i am now convinced the majority of Germans would go willingly into the slaughter house because that at least is over quicker than this fuckery.
 
That’s so fucked up i can’t even…
i am now convinced the majority of Germans would go willingly into the slaughter house because that at least is over quicker than this fuckery.
Not really. If you would propose to cut of the right little finger of everyone in the country - you would not get a lot of support. It's all a question of comparison.

It's more the fact that a large portion of the population so far got the vaccine and experienced that themselves. And yet heavy side effects are very rare. So that is seen as an effective tool.
On the other side is the data, that the healthcare system is currently struggling to keep up. Patients have to be distributed across the country and even to foreign countries like Italy. And that is partly duo to the unvaccinated. Since they have, adjusted for population, a higher chance to get infected and then again a higher chance to take up healthcare resources compared to the vaccinated population.

This is more about a local/anecdotal point I have from co-workers and the different parties in our town council. But what really did not help the unvaccinated was the - I would call it contempt, that they or public figures of them showed towards the vaccinated population. It's hard to received tolerance if your "group" previously went along the lines to call everyone else a sheep, mindless or a NPC. Or, a red flag in Germany, saying that those who are vaccinated would have raised their hands to Hitler as well.
Because then the response of the vaccinated is:
"Ya, well fuck you too."
 
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