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There was no alliteration my man, that was assonance.FIFY. No longer has that catchy alliteration but it's more accurate.
I think it's pretty (hideously) obvious they don't troon out because they hate women. They troon out because they've reached the terminal phase of an escalating fetish and society no longer gives enough shits to make people try to act normal in public.
But it's true that troons do seem to hate women, or at least despise them. Some of it is jealousy, some of it is entitlement, and a lot of it is displayed in their bizarre, pornified, hypersexualized, haunted funhouse mirror cosplay version of femininity. Pretty sure that creepy geriatric pinkhair from a few pages back who wants to be a cute UwU "slut" thinks young cute UwU women are also sluts.
It's not very different from incel logic: they only see women as mothers or whores. But mostly whores.
MIDDLE AGED TROON UPDATE: GANDALF EDITION - YOU SHALL NOT PASS
Narrator: he felt wrong.
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The Decepticon neck tattoo is *mwah*
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"Passing was never the goal", said the guy with the choker and combover combo
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Looks like the reno is going well?
All you really need is two monitors, a wig, and a 2-liter Mountain Dew to make it cozy.
(I posted this guy a few days ago, I guess he goes by Sabrina?)
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Looks like the reno is going well?
All you really need is two monitors, a wig, and a 2-liter Mountain Dew to make it cozy.
(I posted this guy a few days ago, I guess he goes by Sabrina?)
Willard Scott cosplaying as all those grannies whose birthdays he’d announce.I swear this guy looks like some celebrity or politician I know, I just can't figure out which.
I have to disagree since in my experience "toxic aspects" or toxic masculinity ends up being whatever people disapprove of at the time. I think we would just have to agree to disagree there though since the last thing this thread needs is more culture war sperging.Masculinity hasn't been "attacked", though. Not really. Masculinity and masculine men are still idolized in society, etc., it's just that there has been a widening exception for more and different expressions of masculinity and ways to be a man, and more pushback against the more toxic aspects of traditional masculinity (misogyny, domestic abuse, etc). Trans ideology doesn't really have anything to do with that.
And again I have to disagree, because this only works if your entire view of trans are based on the incel to troon pipeline. The most annoying part of reading this thread is people trying to find the main cause of troonery. It ends up with autists blaming faggots and women, and the gender crits blaming the patriarchy and coomers. Both are incredibly reductive and only make sense within your specific bubbles. If you should learn anything from this thread it's that people troon out for a variety of reasons, and the only solid connection is that they are all mentally ill in one way or another.I don't necessarily disagree with all of your factors (though I think the anime watching is more of an issue than the video games), but I think you missed the single biggest one: Pornography. Trans ideology has risen roughly at the same rate at which extreme, violent pornography has become more and more easily accessible. It's a known, studied phenomenon that repeated porn use correlates with use of more and more extreme pornography as the brain gets less and less stimulus out of the same old material. Repeated porn use also correlates with the development of paraphilias, which autogynephilia is one of. The ability to access the most degrading, misogynistic torture porn you can imagine in seconds on your cellphone for free and the encouragement, particularly among liberal feminists, to watch for hours a day has contributed to any number of problems faced by modern men and boys (see: the rise in ED experienced by increasingly younger men who are addicted to porn, younger and younger male children raping their female classmates and little sisters, etc), trans ideology among them.
Trans ideology is based in hardcore misogyny. It is based on reducing womanhood down to misogynistic stereotypes drawn straight from pornography, the presumption that men can understand womanhood sufficiently to become one, the pervasive idea that women are merely sex objects, etc. Excessive pornography use has a lot to do with "teaching" these men those stereotypes... and then they lose sensation from that stuff and move onto, say, sissy porn, where they're taught that embodying those stereotypes will make them women. And so on.
I guess that could count as modern technology, but I felt like it should be more emphasized because I truly believe the ready availability of extreme pornography is a huge contributor to the rise of trans ideology.
Translation: this is a man that saw his fellow men and listened to how they talked about the women they liked. When he realized that his feelings and thoughts toward women were different, he realized that he wasn't a typical man. For some fucking reason, instead of just accepting that he didn't fit gender norms, he instead said "I am not a man at all. I think differently than the typical man therefore I am a woman."Can anyone here decipher troon logic? Please explain this troon’s logic to me because I’m baffled. Feeling this “different attraction” sounds just as ridiculous as “feeling like a man/women” or “having a male/female soul”.
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What I'm mostly referring to is the cultural push for men to stop beating and raping women tbh, it's the only real coherent attack on any part of what is considered "toxic masculinity" that has had any kind of mainstream success (insofar as pushing for awareness, making criticisms, etc. - rates of rape and DV have not gone down, in fact DV is way up).I have to disagree since in my experience "toxic aspects" or toxic masculinity ends up being whatever people disapprove of at the time. I think we would just have to agree to disagree there though since the last thing this thread needs is more culture war sperging.
I did say there were many factors, of which excessive porn use is a large one, but like... lbr none of the men trooning out are abstinent from porn. They all use it, almost all excessively. It is a massive factor. You're right that mental illness plays a role, but where that mental illness came from is a significant question, and we know from many, many studies that porn use literally warps the brain (in terrible ways) and distorts sexual responses and more; it isn't outside the realm of possibility to wonder if there isn't a correlation there, whether it comes directly from the porn use, from being exposed to extreme pornography at a young age (average age of exposure for boys is now I believe eight years old), or has to do with the self-isolation men experience when they lock themselves away to watch porn and masturbate for hours every day, preventing them from having normal social experiences, or something else related, etc.And again I have to disagree, because this only works if your entire view of trans are based on the incel to troon pipeline.
Can anyone here decipher troon logic? Please explain this troon’s logic to me because I’m baffled. Feeling this “different attraction” sounds just as ridiculous as “feeling like a man/women” or “having a male/female soul”.
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I get where you're coming from, as I have seen this happen, but a personal experience doesn't always accurately reflect the reality and what happens to most people around the world. Outside if liberal areas and medias and around most of the world masculinity is idealized and preferred.I have to disagree since in my experience "toxic aspects" or toxic masculinity ends up being whatever people disapprove of at the time. I think we would just have to agree to disagree there though since the last thing this thread needs is more culture war sperging.
Sure, autists can blame it on women and gays, but let's be honest there ain't a lot of evidence backing that up when there is a lot for pinning it on porn and the patriarchy. But all troons are definitely mentally ill.The most annoying part of reading this thread is people trying to find the main cause of troonery. It ends up with autists blaming faggots and women, and the gender crits blaming the patriarchy and coomers. Both are incredibly reductive and only make sense within your specific bubbles. If you should learn anything from this thread it's that people troon out for a variety of reasons, and the only solid connection is that they are all mentally ill in one way or another.
I hate to be a Tim Pool and take a fence sitting position, but it's a nice fence, so here is my two cents:Sure, autists can blame it on women and gays, but let's be honest there ain't a lot of evidence backing that up when there is a lot for pinning it on porn and the patriarchy. But all troons are definitely mentally ill.
@TheCottonCeiling welcome to the Farms Lily, love your work
I'd say that in that specific instance then yes you are right, that clamping down on rapists or women beaters is a good thing and should continue. That is not how everyone defines toxic masculinity though. Western progressive values do tend to demonize traits that are traditionally masculine whether or not they are harmful.What I'm mostly referring to is the cultural push for men to stop beating and raping women tbh, it's the only real coherent attack on any part of what is considered "toxic masculinity" that has had any kind of mainstream success (insofar as pushing for awareness, making criticisms, etc. - rates of rape and DV have not gone down, in fact DV is way up).
Depression and being socially maladjusted are very common themes in the trannies we have seen here. You don't necessarily need porn for that to happen. I absolutely agree that porn addicts are making up some of the worst troons. I just don't believe that it's the net cause. I would sooner blame the internet as a whole for making easy to access echo chambers where mental illness can fester. I'd blame twitter and tumblr just as much as I would porn hub. That being said I'd defer to you on the effects of porn on the psyche since I've read zero studies on that matterI did say there were many factors, of which excessive porn use is a large one, but like... lbr none of the men trooning out are abstinent from porn. They all use it, almost all excessively. It is a massive factor. You're right that mental illness plays a role, but where that mental illness came from is a significant question, and we know from many, many studies that porn use literally warps the brain (in terrible ways) and distorts sexual responses and more; it isn't outside the realm of possibility to wonder if there isn't a correlation there, whether it comes directly from the porn use, from being exposed to extreme pornography at a young age (average age of exposure for boys is now I believe eight years old), or has to do with the self-isolation men experience when they lock themselves away to watch porn and masturbate for hours every day, preventing them from having normal social experiences, or something else related, etc.
Sure, I'll agree with that, but within the western world and specifically america where troonery is the biggest problem, that is not uniformly the case. I don't think that macho dudes are the most oppressed people on earth, but it's a bit disingenuous to say because some third world country treats women like shit that dudes in the developed world are universally idealized.I get where you're coming from, as I have seen this happen, but a personal experience doesn't always accurately reflect the reality and what happens to most people around the world. Outside if liberal areas and medias and around most of the world masculinity is idealized and preferred.
It's very much confirmation bias. Women in this thread will be drawn to the crazy sex fiends since that is in their best interest to keep an eye on. It's every other page we get asked why ftms don't seem as bad as mtfs despite the fact its been shown multiple times they can be. (The old tumblr thread had a good amount of them.) It's understandable, but doesn't really account for the whole of the problem.Sure, autists can blame it on women and gays, but let's be honest there ain't a lot of evidence backing that up when there is a lot for pinning it on porn and the patriarchy. But all troons are definitely mentally ill.
Yeah, I’ll start listening to anything UK police say when they stop killing women.Essex Police actually held a ceremony at the local war memorial (isn't one of the prominent tranny police theirs? Or was that the tranny civilian worker who was jailed for clubbing watermelons with pictures of JK Rowling on them?).
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There's not a single supportive voice in the replies. Not one. The top voted right now is:
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Protip: if you can tell it’s a woman, even if she hasn’t made herself look attractive, then she’s already passing better than you.Troons judging real women on their passing game, lmfao
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r/asktransgender - Do you ever judge cis women on their passing game?
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Do you ever judge cis women on their passing game? : asktransgender
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Didn’t you know? Nothing bad ever happens to white women. It’s why so many white men want to be them.Because White women are just being whiny whenever something bad happens to them.
There’s also transwidows.orgThere are a few places where "trans widows" can hang out, but I think the number of places are shrinking as more social media sites are absorbed by the Troon menace. I think there was a thread on mumsnet but I can't remember if they shut that down for wrongthink or not. Otherwise you're left with places like us or Ovarit. r/mypartneristrans is supposed to be a support group for women, but they aren't friendly to women who leave their partners.
Those poor women. I have a case of the feels for them. Especially the ones with children because once you have children with someone you have to be in their life at some level for the rest of yours.
I love how younger millennials and genZers are so isolated, antisocial, and porn-fried that they don’t recognize friendship with a person you don’t want to fuck. “What is this strange feeling in my heart??? I like this person, but not in a sexy way?! How can this be? I’m sure that no one has ever felt this way before… I therefore dub this feeling ‘Queer Platonic Attraction!’”It's a stitched tiktok. The thumbnail is the audio - if it's an original audio (i.e. someone talking, rather someone lipsynching along to another tiktok) then the audio display will show their avatar, which rotates while playing like a vinyl record.
They literally mean being friends, yes. Primary is sexual, secondary is romantic, tertiary is platonic.
Tertiary is an umbrella for all the other attraction types. So there's also queerplatonic attraction, which they claim is asexual nonromantic soulmates, so in other words want to be best friends with someone*. There's also aesthetic, where you think they're pretty "but not sexually, honest!". There's sensual, where you want to do "sensual" things with them like cuddle or massage or even kiss, but "genuinely this isn't sexual attraction, honest!". There's even more exceptional shit like "domestic attraction" where you want to cook someone a nice meal and do their laundry.
*Asexuals get really mad at you calling queerplatonic relationships "being best friends", but not as mad as aromantics do when they go on about their sexual queerplatonic relationships and you insist they're either fuckbuddies or they have a regular old relationship and they just have commitment issues.
I kinda miss the asexuality phase of social justice, because nobody took their whining about oppression seriously, so you could poke holes in their logic with no social penalty. They were also mostly harmless, and were basically autistic people who didn't understand that what they were experiencing was just regular old sexual attraction and had an obsessive need to categorise everything and make exceptional graphs:
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or they were attention whores who wanted attention for having a regular old relationship but "queer" in some nebulous sense. They've pretty much all faded away now or transitioned, and unfortunately the movement birthed the concept of the "non sexual fetish" which a bunch of groomers use now.
Oh god, they went and made it even more hideous. What’s the piss yellow and circle bit represent now? And where’s my horsegirl diaper fag representation?The modified flag is so atrocious. It’s like someone took a piss and shit on the original flag and it’s seeping down.
Parents tried to send me to conversion camp—joke’s on them, I trooned out and converted myself!I'm not sure why he thinks he is special; he is attracted to women and likes to have sex with women, as do I. The difference is he has a penis, because he is a man, and I do not. This is why he is a heterosexual man having heterosexual relationships and sex and I am a lesbian having lesbian relationships and sex. None of this is particularly special, meaningful or impactful to anyone normal and no one normal fucking cares. You don't have special gender feels, you are not a woman, you are not a trans lesbian and you will never be a woman, son.
I went to have a look at his account and he reminded me of a favorite lolcow: Rohan. I don't think he has made an appearance here yet and I think New Zealand's premier agricultural website should be aware of his output.
Rohan is one of Critfacts' devotees and much like Critfacts, not interesting enough on her own for a thread. However Rohan never misses an opportunity to get her shots in at 'the lesbian community' however sketchy and is bizarrely obsessive over Britbong politics (despite living in America).
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Hilarious. I just get on with my life, I don't adorn myself with rainbows, make podcasts about it, argue all day with British people on the internet or argue about clownfish chromosomes. Do you know what that feels like, Rohan? No I didn't think so. Sounds like you politicize your sexuality, hon
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Rohan likes to go on rants a lot about lesbians despite being a troo and brave trans man and admits that she won't be responsible for anything trans activists do but gets very upset "the lesbian community" across the entire globe won't take collective responsibility for this time she got upset by a lesbian at a dive bar being a total bitch to her. Until lesbians everywhere, from Kansas to South Korea step up and right this wrong, Rohan won't stop
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Rohan spends a lot of time obsessively talking about Britbong politics and uses a lot arwf limey slang for a Yank. Every so often she has a freak out about it and reminds everyone she is American, with a Peppa Pig afflication, before continuing to go on about Britbong shit. I'm not posting the RTs because its just a waste of space but I don't know anyone who gives a shit what Scotrail thinks in the US and I am sure no one in the UK is RTing posts from Amtrak, PATH or NYCT.
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Rohan and other TRAs struggle to grasp the concept that lesbians can act like normal people - including being jealous and fighting - and still not want to deal with mentally ill men in dresses screeching they are women. I don't particularly need to deal with the idealized concept of lesbians either. I still don't want to be around you and your shit. This isn't hard to grasp by the rest of the world.
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Rohan wilfully distorting reality. Besides, she is obsessed with British politics and surely she should know Britbongs can't even see a water pistol without having an aneurysm. You're going to have to step up your game if you want a job at the BBC and change their fash culture from within
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I forgot about these. Also claims to have been nearly sent to a conversion camp
No way that's the same guy, right?Came across some extremely Islamic content today - you have been warned
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