Open letter signed by 16,000 calls for BBC apology over trans article

More than 16,000 people have signed an open letter calling on the BBC to apologise for an online news article about trans women and lesbians.

The piece, published on Tuesday, quoted lesbians who felt "pressured into sex by some trans women".

The letter described the article as "incredibly dangerous" and said it had used a "deeply flawed study".

The BBC said it must "ensure debate and make sure a wide a range of voices are heard".

It is understood the BBC has also received a number of appreciations from audience members about the article in addition to the complaints.

The open letter was published earlier this week by a campaign group called Trans Activism UK.

"The implications proposed by this article suggest that transgender women generally pose a risk to cisgender lesbians in great enough numbers that it is newsworthy, and something the general public should consider as a common occurrence rather than a matter of incredibly rare, isolated experiences," the letter reads.

"It is vital that the BBC, which is a government-endorsed public service that claims to be committed to achieving impartiality with the output of it's content, rectifies this act with a sincere apology, amendment of the article to clarify the falsehoods and damage within, and commits to realigning with their original mission statement."

In response, a spokesman for the BBC said: "The article looks at a complex subject from different perspectives and acknowledges it is difficult to assess the extent of the issue.

"It includes testimony from a range of different sources and provides appropriate context. It went through our rigorous editorial processes.

"It is important that journalism looks at issues - even where there are strongly held positions. The BBC is here to ensure debate and to make sure a wide a range of voices are heard."

In the article, journalist Caroline Lowbridge explained she had explored the issue after several people contacted her about pressures to "accept the idea that a penis can be a female sex organ", adding that she wanted to discover how widespread the issue was.

The women quoted in the piece said they had received a backlash for stating that they are attracted only to women who are biologically female.

The article attracted both praise and criticism on social media, and the article was trending on Twitter after publication.

"The BBC has published one of the most insidious, disgusting and toxic anti-trans pieces yet," said Ryan John Butcher of Pink News.

But the hashtag #IStandWithLesbians also began trending, and Shahrar Ali of the Green Party said it was an "insightful article not for faint-hearted, admirably exploring viewpoints from all sides".

Open letter signed by 16,000 calls for BBC apology over trans article

The letter, which takes issue with a BBC News online story, is signed by more than 16,000 people.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Sinner's Sandwich]

I'm really torn on this. These dyked out turbo feminists are what created this problem in the first place. The logical end result of a feminized society that constantly shits on men is exactly this.

So congrats ladies, you got your feminized men. That monkey's paw turned into a fist and went right up your pussies.

Congrats, the prize for the most r,etarded comment goes to you and your peanut sized brain.

 

[Getwhatyou]

Give it a year or two and that number should be 41% smaller

 

[Getwhatyou]

Congrats, the prize for the most r,etarded comment goes to you and your peanut sized brain.

Cheer up homeslice. People are allowed to disagree with your world view.

 

[Dysnomia]

I'm really torn on this. These dyked out turbo feminists are what created this problem in the first place. The logical end result of a feminized society that constantly shits on men is exactly this.

So congrats ladies, you got your feminized men. That monkey's paw turned into a fist and went right up your pussies.

I think we shouldn't give any of them a hard time if they've seen the light about troons. The more people who do, the better.

 

[Next Task]

Oh look, all of a sudden they're denying the importance of people's 'lived experience' and not believing women. What a thoroughly predictable turn of events.

The impact of troons on society creates more victims than the number of troons that exist. Anything that gets people to learn their caterwauling about being the biggest victims in the world is bullshit is a good start.

 

[pwnest injun]

Les: "Trannies are pushy weirdos who try to gaslight and force people to like them using threats and coercion. You can't force people to like you."
Troons: "That's not true! Your experiences aren't real or valid, only mine are and if you don't take it back and say you like me, then it's bad stuff for you!!"

 

[ロボ﹏§¤r﹏h¶rœ]

Les: "Trannies are pushy weirdos who try to gaslight and force people to like them using threats and coercion. You can't force people to like you."
Troons: "That's not true! Your experiences aren't real or valid, only mine are and if you don't take it back and say you like me, then it's bad stuff for you!!"

They don't sound like porn-addicted rapey incels they are, nope. Not at all. 8)

 

[theshitposter]

trannies can't catch a break. wtf happened?

 

[derpherp2]

The letter is legit btw, I was 5000 of the people that signed.

 

[Tuxedo_Zemus]

I think we shouldn't give any of them a hard time if they've seen the light about troons. The more people who do, the better.

Sure, better late than never. But it's important to remind them whose fault this is the next time they start getting any bright ideas about socjus.

 

[Overly Serious]

Met a poor lass who got beaten up by a trannie for basically denying publicly that he was a lesbian. She was. Smacked her outside the pub. It was a gay pub, too. I don't know what the situation is like there now but the way it looked like it was going was that lesbians were basically being chased out going there by trans and "queer" people calling them TERFS.

 

[Male Idiot]

Met a poor lass who got beaten up by a trannie for basically denying publicly that he was a lesbian. She was. Smacked her outside the pub. It was a gay pub, too. I don't know what the situation is like there now but the way it looked like it was going was that lesbians were basically being chased out going there by trans and "queer" people calling them TERFS.

I fail to see the problem. In fact I see the subsequent problem and the original problem fixing each other.

Remember who started this.

 

[Overly Serious]

I fail to see the problem. In fact I see the subsequent problem and the original problem fixing each other.

Remember who started this.

I know who didn't start it. The twenty-something girl who got threatened for calling a man a man and saying she (a lesbian) didn't want a dick inside her. I know what you're going for - women brought this on themselves with Feminism! Except most women these days don't identify as feminist. And most lesbians are more at odds with the Gay Rights movement than most straight people, hence movements like "Get the L Out" and comments sections on Pink News being closed on any trans related article to prevent the slew of angry comments from lesbians. Honestly, of the gay people I know, I don't think any of them are especially political. And most women I know are against modern feminism. So the whole "problem solves itself" doesn't work at all for me. Most of the people who support this stuff aren't lesbians, they're "lesbians". They're not gay, they're "queer". The sort that get excited because they got a "bi cut" and call themselves queer because they once made out with another girl in a pub once in between long-term relationships with guys.

You're seeing groups as the same when they're not. Which is what the modern Left is all about - they don't give ONE FLYING FUCK what the actual effect is on a Black/Gay/Whatever person. Only using such people as a platform to stand on for their agenda. I'm not aware of this girl ever doing anything to invite violence on herself or create a society where that was considered okay. All she did was rebuff a twat in makeup.

 

[Troonologist PhD]

I know who didn't start it. The twenty-something girl who got threatened for calling a man a man and saying she (a lesbian) didn't want a dick inside her. I know what you're going for - women brought this on themselves with Feminism! Except most women these days don't identify as feminist. And most lesbians are more at odds with the Gay Rights movement than most straight people, hence movements like "Get the L Out" and comments sections on Pink News being closed on any trans related article to prevent the slew of angry comments from lesbians. Honestly, of the gay people I know, I don't think any of them are especially political. And most women I know are against modern feminism. So the whole "problem solves itself" doesn't work at all for me. Most of the people who support this stuff aren't lesbians, they're "lesbians". They're not gay, they're "queer". The sort that get excited because they got a "bi cut" and call themselves queer because they once made out with another girl in a pub once in between long-term relationships with guys.

You're seeing groups as the same when they're not. Which is what the modern Left is all about - they don't give ONE FLYING FUCK what the actual effect is on a Black/Gay/Whatever person. Only using such people as a platform to stand on for their agenda. I'm not aware of this girl ever doing anything to invite violence on herself or create a society where that was considered okay. All she did was rebuff a twat in makeup.

It was only about half a decade ago mocking trannies was normal among LGB's. If it were still the early 2000's and an actual gay bar the men would've tranny bashed the troon into the hospital for hitting a woman. I can't wait until that becomes the norm again.

 

[Tuxedo_Zemus]

I know who didn't start it. The twenty-something girl who got threatened for calling a man a man and saying she (a lesbian) didn't want a dick inside her. I know what you're going for - women brought this on themselves with Feminism! Except most women these days don't identify as feminist. And most lesbians are more at odds with the Gay Rights movement than most straight people, hence movements like "Get the L Out" and comments sections on Pink News being closed on any trans related article to prevent the slew of angry comments from lesbians. Honestly, of the gay people I know, I don't think any of them are especially political. And most women I know are against modern feminism. So the whole "problem solves itself" doesn't work at all for me. Most of the people who support this stuff aren't lesbians, they're "lesbians". They're not gay, they're "queer". The sort that get excited because they got a "bi cut" and call themselves queer because they once made out with another girl in a pub once in between long-term relationships with guys.

You're seeing groups as the same when they're not. Which is what the modern Left is all about - they don't give ONE FLYING FUCK what the actual effect is on a Black/Gay/Whatever person. Only using such people as a platform to stand on for their agenda. I'm not aware of this girl ever doing anything to invite violence on herself or create a society where that was considered okay. All she did was rebuff a twat in makeup.

Look, I agree with you in principle. But each of these groups needs to have their Come-to-Jesus moment in order to jolt them out of this stupor. They all need to have skin in the game in order to get them on board with turning this ship around.

 

[Oh piss off!]

The BBC actually grew a pair:

BBC responds to backlash to article about lesbians 'being pressured into sex by some trans women'

"The BBC is here to ensure debate and to make sure a wide a range of voices are heard"

attitude.co.uk

BBC RESPONDS TO BACKLASH TO ARTICLE ABOUT LESBIANS 'BEING PRESSURED INTO SEX BY SOME TRANS WOMEN'​

"The BBC is here to ensure debate and to make sure a wide a range of voices are heard"​

2021-10-27


Words: Jamie Tabberer; picture: wiki
The BBC has addressed backlash over an article about lesbian women published on its website yesterday headlined 'we're being pressured into sex by some trans women'.

The report, which opens with the question, 'is a lesbian transphobic if she does not want to have sex with trans women?' quotes several anonymous interviewees on the subject.

It also cites a survey of 80 lesbians, of which 56% of respondents said they have been 'pressured or coerced to accept a trans women as a sexual partner.'

The article has been publicly criticised by the likes of comic Rosie Jones, who called it "transphobic" on Twitter, and Stonewall co-founder Lisa Power.

"It went through our rigorous editorial processes"

In a statement provided to Attitude yesterday evening, a BBC spokesperson said: “The article looks at a complex subject from different perspectives and acknowledges it is difficult to assess the extent of the issue.

“It includes testimony from a range of different sources and provides appropriate context. It went through our rigorous editorial processes.

“It is important that journalism looks at issues - even where there are strongly held positions. The BBC is here to ensure debate and to make sure a wide a range of voices are heard.”


Also this. I think troonlandia's stranglehold on the British media may soon be over.

BBC unveils 'significant' 10-point impartiality plan

The plan follows criticism it received over how a 1995 interview with Princess Diana was obtained.

www.bbc.co.uk

BBC unveils 'significant' 10-point impartiality plan​

The BBC has announced changes to raise standards across the organisation and challenge claims of bias.

It has published a 10-point plan focused on impartiality, whistleblowing and editorial standards.

The plan includes regular reviews of content, increased transparency and a new editorial whistleblowing policy.
The BBC faced criticism earlier this year over the "deceitful" way Martin Bashir's 1995 interview with Princess Diana was obtained.

"The BBC's editorial values of impartiality, accuracy and trust are the foundation of our relationship with audiences in the UK and around the world," said director general Tim Davie.
"Our audiences deserve and expect programmes and content which earn their trust every day and we must meet the highest standards and hold ourselves accountable in everything we do.

"The changes we have announced not only ensure we learn the lessons from the past but also protect these essential values for the future."

...etc...

 

[Overly Serious]

Look, I agree with you in principle. But each of these groups needs to have their Come-to-Jesus moment in order to jolt them out of this stupor. They all need to have skin in the game in order to get them on board with turning this ship around.

That's fair. And I do agree. But I've seen people have such realizations, speak out and... get nowhere because the media wont hear them. A lesbian friend (different one, I have three! Much gay friends, So tolerance) who had such a realization started posting gender critical comments on Twitter. Everyone here knows what happened. There's a group called Women's Place in the UK that speak about this stuff. Their meetings are filled with women saying things like "Now, I know this is from the Daily Mail but..." and "I know this is a Right Wing source but..." the whiplash of these women who now find the only people who will give them a voice are the Right is honestly tragic but funny. Or else funny but tragic. Relevant point though, is that they have one fucking devil of a time getting even a drop of coverage. They had a bomb threat called in for one of their meetings. Another speaker from one of their events, a sixty year old woman, was beaten to the ground by a trannie calling himself... Tania Wolf? (I think). The judge did finally find in her favour but gave the guy who punched and kicked her a reduced sentence because she refused to call him "she" in court.

So I'm not disagreeing with you. But I'm saying many, many of these people have HAD their revelation. But you don't know it because they have no voice in the media, social or otherwise. Their view is that transwomen are men and just saying that openly will get you silenced and in some cases in the UK a visit from the police. Now are there others out there who still need it? Yes. But honestly, I don't think social media grossly over-represents them. The majority of women, even in the USA, do not identify as feminist. We're living in a very media distorted world.

 

[Zero Day Defense]

And then bake the trans cake and wax the trans balls, bigot!

In short: "get back in the kitchen".

 

[Windows XP Home Edition]

POMOs and their ideology completely contradict themselves with their idea of "rape culture" on this hot issue of troons sexually coercing gays and in particular lesbians, who've been raped and abused by "translesbians". AGPs and AAPS are demanding that the "cisfags" and "cislesbians" fuck them and that they can't refuse. And if they do, they're transphobes and genital fetishists who should be raped/killed/beaten up. The whole "No means no" and importance of being absolutely honest to your partner during sex that the 3rd wavers so dearly hold up goes out the window with trans activists.

So I'm not disagreeing with you. But I'm saying many, many of these people have HAD their revelation. But you don't know it because they have no voice in the media, social or otherwise. Their view is that transwomen are men and just saying that openly will get you silenced and in some cases in the UK a visit from the police. Now are there others out there who still need it? Yes. But honestly, I don't think social media grossly over-represents them. The majority of women, even in the USA, do not identify as feminist. We're living in a very media distorted world.

Liberal 3rd wave feminism is an absolute laughing stock that nobody takes seriously. They're more focused on petty genderfeels than they are about actual serious womens' issues such as domestic violence and prostitution. All the top libfems who either let troons walk all over or them or are absolutely silent like Caitlin Moran refuse to defend or understand womens' issues with trannies overtaking anything.

Also, for anyone trying to put the blame on radfems, they've been against troon ideology for a long time, ever since the 70s. Just read The Transgender Empire by Janice Raymond. It gives a breakdown of the fauxness of the "transgender" ideology.

 

[Overly Serious]

Liberal 3rd wave feminism is an absolute laughing stock that nobody takes seriously. They're more focused on petty genderfeels than they are about actual serious womens' issues such as domestic violence and prostitution. All the top libfems who either let troons walk all over or them or are absolutely silent like Caitlin Moran refuse to defend or understand womens' issues with trannies overtaking anything.

Also, for anyone trying to put the blame on radfems, they've been against troon ideology for a long time, ever since the 70s. Just read The Transgender Empire by Janice Raymond. It gives a breakdown of the fauxness of the "transgender" ideology.