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[Sexual Chocolate]

Buffalo Bill is probably one of the most accurate depictions of a transwoman. His character was based off of real cases.
I think this is why Silence of the Lambs never really got Twitter-pilloried. The trans catgirls recognize one of one of their own. Plenty of them have probably wanted to kill and skin one of the women that they're jealous of.

Trannies hate that movie but it did come out in 1991, so cold product by the time Twitter was invented, and the script tried to reassure audiences that while Bill literally murdered and skinned women, at least he wasn't truscum:

Billy is not a real transexual. But he thinks he is. He tries to be. He's tried to be a lot of things, I expect

The "real transsexual" part makes sense in context - in the late 80's / early 90's most adults were vaguely aware of HSTS trannies, extremely effeminate little gay guys who you could believe were "trapped in the wrong body" if you didn't know better, but Bill is a big, hulking, aggressive and definitely non-passing AGP which is something that not many people had heard of at the time.

Clarice Starling is the patron saint of TERFs

 

[DumbDude42]

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"same genes" thats just straight up false though. the male genotype contains a y chromosome while the female genotype contains a second x chromosome instead. i'm not a biochemist but i am fairly certain that the y chromosome does in fact contain different genes than the x chromosome.

 

[Matt Damon]

That is a big "except." Except for mutations humans and flies are the same. Must mean we can transition into flies then, huh.

Reminds me of the all-natural psychos who say stuff like "[this substance] is only one atom away from [other deadly substance]!"

Motherfucker, even a conceptually small change propagated out trillions of times over an enormously complex system is going to change it in ways beyond anyone's ability to imagine.

 

[m1ddl3m4rch]

This might be not sideshow enough to fit the thread, but it's nice to see pushback in Bongland. Hearing Lammy get indignant and fumble for words made me laugh.

 

[Garbage.Theory]

"same genes" thats just straight up false though. the male genotype contains a y chromosome while the female genotype contains a second x chromosome instead. i'm not a biochemist but i am fairly certain that the y chromosome does in fact contain different genes than the x chromosome.

It does, but it really doesn’t do much. The Y-Chromosome is basically an “on” switch to start making dude parts. Some of the genes it activates are on the X chromosome. Some are elsewhere. As the old biochemistry joke goes “there’s only one chromosome you can live without and it affects nearly 51% of the population”

There are in fact cases of women with XY genomes. I don’t mean trans women, I mean real honest to goodness women who’s physical deformities aren’t detectable by the average Joe. These women “suffer” from a messed up Y chromosome, so the body just defaulted to X and went ahead and made a girl. There are some side effects of course. Some need hormonal replacement and some get a surgery to clean up any malformed internal tissues, but it’s not unheard of.

This is generally why I think that there are some truly trans people out there, because the genetics can get a bit blurry, hell, everything in biology is a bit blurry. It’s the level trans people we are seeing and what they are trying to push that scares me, not that they use some of biology’s weirder habits to make a point.

Swyer syndrome: MedlinePlus Genetics

Swyer syndrome is a condition that affects sex development. Explore symptoms, inheritance, genetics of this condition.

medlineplus.gov

 

[Pyrus]

https://youtube.com/watch?v=wWKf15CnStkThis might be not sideshow enough to fit the thread, but it's nice to see pushback in Bongland. Hearing Lammy get indignant and fumble for words made me laugh.

Labour is really a goldmine for this kinda stuff.

 

[Matt Damon]

This might be not sideshow enough to fit the thread, but it's nice to see pushback in Bongland. Hearing Lammy get indignant and fumble for words made me laugh.

From a purely realpolitik perspective, it's astonishing that these people are effectively throwing 50% of the population under the bus in order to pander to a tiny fraction of 1% of the population.

 

[Pyrus]

From a purely realpolitik perspective, it's astonishing that these people are effectively throwing 50% of the population under the bus in order to pander to a tiny fraction of 1% of the population.

I think its because we're still in the "what's the harm" stage, people hear the equal rights argument and say "Well I support equal rights!". We're only now getting to the point where it's snowballed to the stage where the average person is noticing the effects. (if we're not there already, we're certainly getting there)

 

[DumbDude42]

From a purely realpolitik perspective, it's astonishing that these people are effectively throwing 50% of the population under the bus in order to pander to a tiny fraction of 1% of the population.

why is that astonishing? these same people are used to routinely throwing ~90% of the population under the bus in order to pander to hostile foreigners from third world shitholes.

 

[Garbage.Theory]

From a purely realpolitik perspective, it's astonishing that these people are effectively throwing 50% of the population under the bus in order to pander to a tiny fraction of 1% of the population.

Eh. The far right does it all the time in the US to pander to super-Xians.
you just pick your battles.

 

[behindyourightnow]

It does, but it really doesn’t do much. The Y-Chromosome is basically an “on” switch to start making dude parts. Some of the genes it activates are on the X chromosome. Some are elsewhere. As the old biochemistry joke goes “there’s only one chromosome you can live without and it affects nearly 51% of the population”

There are in fact cases of women with XY genomes. I don’t mean trans women, I mean real honest to goodness women who’s physical deformities aren’t detectable by the average Joe. These women “suffer” from a messed up Y chromosome, so the body just defaulted to X and went ahead and made a girl. There are some side effects of course. Some need hormonal replacement and some get a surgery to clean up any malformed internal tissues, but it’s not unheard of.

This is generally why I think that there are some truly trans people out there, because the genetics can get a bit blurry, hell, everything in biology is a bit blurry. It’s the level trans people we are seeing and what they are trying to push that scares me, not that they use some of biology’s weirder habits to make a point.

Swyer syndrome: MedlinePlus Genetics

Swyer syndrome is a condition that affects sex development. Explore symptoms, inheritance, genetics of this condition.

medlineplus.gov

Yes, this is why it annoys me when people take the “if there’s a Y it’s a guy” position, because it really does make things ridiculous when you’re saying someone with the appearance of a woman, who was raised as a woman, who has boobs and a vulva, and who with the help of hormones and egg donation can literally bear children in some cases, is actually a man. She might be biologically male, but pointing to a woman whose parents named her Jennifer who is holding a baby she just gave birth to and saying “that’s a man, baby!” just makes you look silly.

The reason troons are so successful with the “sex is more complicated than high school biology, sweaty" argument is because they’re partially right. The key is that they then use that complexity (and people's general lack of understanding) to push bullshit like sex being changeable or “a spectrum.”

The key is: there are ways nature screws up the human sexes, and a lot of it hinges on the fact that the "default" outward phenotype is female. This is not the same as saying “all fetuses start off female” which I’ve seen MtFs use (“I was female but then got testosterone poisoning”). All fetuses either have a Y or they don’t. But in the absence of certain functional genes or hormones, a fetus with XX or XY will develop a vulva and look female.

More on the Y chromosome: X and Y aren’t just random labels, the two chromosomes actually resemble the letters X and Y during cell division. In other words, the Y is missing a ‘leg’ that the X has, which means that a lot of genes on the X don’t have a matching “pair” in males. This is why there is a category of genetic diseases that affect men worse than women, because women have that extra backup version of certain genes that men don’t. Short version: chromosomes matter, and they are real, and they affect you forever.

 

[A Very Big Fish]

Yes, this is why it annoys me when people take the “if there’s a Y it’s a guy” position, because it really does make things ridiculous when you’re saying someone with the appearance of a woman, who was raised as a woman, who has boobs and a vulva, and who with the help of hormones and egg donation can literally bear children in some cases, is actually a man. She might be biologically male, but pointing to a woman whose parents named her Jennifer who is holding a baby she just gave birth to and saying “that’s a man, baby!” just makes you look silly.

The reason troons are so successful with the “sex is more complicated than high school biology, sweaty" argument is because they’re partially right. The key is that they then use that complexity (and people's general lack of understanding) to push bullshit like sex being changeable or “a spectrum.”

The key is: there are ways nature screws up the human sexes, and a lot of it hinges on the fact that the "default" outward phenotype is female. This is not the same as saying “all fetuses start off female” which I’ve seen MtFs use (“I was female but then got testosterone poisoning”). All fetuses either have a Y or they don’t. But in the absence of certain functional genes or hormones, a fetus with XX or XY will develop a vulva and look female.

More on the Y chromosome: X and Y aren’t just random labels, the two chromosomes actually resemble the letters X and Y during cell division. In other words, the Y is missing a ‘leg’ that the X has, which means that a lot of genes on the X don’t have a matching “pair” in males. This is why there is a category of genetic diseases that affect men worse than women, because women have that extra backup version of certain genes that men don’t. Short version: chromosomes matter, and they are real, and they affect you forever.

Chromosomes are so important that some of these troons seem to have packed a few extra.

 

[Matt Damon]

Somewhat off-topic, but I've been watching some of the "Waffling Willow" detransitioner videos that were posted here. She said she cried much less while taking testosterone - only "once a month" or so.

If once a month is notably infrequent, exactly how fucking often are hormonally-normal women crying?

 

[decaydent]

Everybody thought PreMaRin (pregnant mare‘s urine) source of estrogen was bad bc of animal abuse. Julie thinks we should just give it another shot, while one commenter recommends just using women on birth control (these godless creatures can contribute to tranny healthcare, why are they NOT all donating their uteri yet?)

That seems only a few steps removed from Ana Valens’ imagined cis woman breeding facilities.

Spoiler: „old tweet“

The key is that they then use that complexity (and people's general lack of understanding) to push bullshit like sex being changeable or “a spectrum.”

Absolutely no complexity of biological sex of a ridiculously small part of the population has any bearing on trannies who are at least 90% unambiguously in one category. If you are 100% male, you can 0% change that.

If once a month is notably infrequent, exactly how fucking often are hormonally-normal women crying?

Depends. If I watch sth sad or someone else cry multiple times a day, or sth really happy - that also works. Actual crying breakdown probably every two weeks. Used to be a lot more frequent like every 2-3 days during a dark time. I am suspecting she had mental distress before taking testosterone (which is why she thought she had to) and that skewed her perspective a bit. ETA: I have major issues, just ignore that, it‘s apparently not normal.

 

[DumbDude42]

Yes, this is why it annoys me when people take the “if there’s a Y it’s a guy” position, because it really does make things ridiculous when you’re saying someone with the appearance of a woman, who was raised as a woman, who has boobs and a vulva, and who with the help of hormones and egg donation can literally bear children in some cases, is actually a man. She might be biologically male, but pointing to a woman whose parents named her Jennifer who is holding a baby she just gave birth to and saying “that’s a man, baby!” just makes you look silly.

The reason troons are so successful with the “sex is more complicated than high school biology, sweaty" argument is because they’re partially right. The key is that they then use that complexity (and people's general lack of understanding) to push bullshit like sex being changeable or “a spectrum.”

the reason why i think this argument can just be ignored and dismissed is because these cases are ultra rare, and because they're not what anybody is talking about when debating tranny issues.

like yeah there might be a bunch of curious intersex cases out there who are difficult to clasisfy, and i don't think anybody objects to allowing these people some leeway and benefit of the doubt when it comes to legal stuff. but the dudes who are attempting to lobby and legislate their way into womens sports aren't that at all, they're just nasty lunatics trying to lie and cheat their way through life, to everybody elses detriment.

 

[Matt Damon]

Depends. If I watch sth sad or someone else cry multiple times a day, or sth really happy - that also works. Actual crying breakdown probably every two weeks. Used to be a lot more frequent like every 2-3 days during a dark time.

Holy Christ. I've never felt more lucky to be emotionally stunted by my toxic masculinity.

 

[ZeeMarin]

If I (old, real woman, sorta still hot) was looking for my next ex-husband, I’d sure try for trans-bians coders whose Apple/Microsoft stock had vested.

 

[REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!]

I don't get why the FtMs hate us so much. No man cares. Literally none. Sure we'll insult your "manhood" but that's kind of our thing. We do that to each other. Literally no man worth his balls gives two shits about a piss if an FtM has a fancy plastic penis. We're not intimidated. Not even by guys hung like a horse. It doesn't matter as long as I get mine wet. That's why we hire hookers. If some woman wants to be a man, then be a man. Walk the walk, Sally. Talk about making a mountain out of a mole hill. Damn near literally for fucks sake.

 

[Garbage.Theory]

the reason why i think this argument can just be ignored and dismissed is because these cases are ultra rare, and because they're not what anybody is talking about when debating tranny issues.

like yeah there might be a bunch of curious intersex cases out there who are difficult to clasisfy, and i don't think anybody objects to allowing these people some leeway and benefit of the doubt when it comes to legal stuff. but the dudes who are attempting to lobby and legislate their way into womens sports aren't that at all, they're just nasty lunatics trying to lie and cheat their way through life, to everybody elses detriment.

Oh 100%.
in fact most religions, even really strict ones pretty much say that intersex people getting surgeries and “choosing” a gender is a-ok.
I think why we shouldn’t ignore it is simply because they don’t. Become more familiar with the biology so it can’t be used against you. And I mean that for all things, not just trans arguments.
You cannot argue that biology/gender/whatever is a spectrum then say that you are a true and honest girl and NOTHING ELSE.
And you can’t argue that biology is a fully binary system and then claim that sexual dimorphism doesn’t exist ergo you are a girl.

personally, I buy the spectrum argument. Because biology is messy and so are spectrums. But who cares. This isn’t about some dude who wants to wear a dress. This is about some dude who wants to wear a dress and then force himself on women. That part there is whats fucked up. If they would truly accept a spectrum, and try to tweak society to accept that they need different accommodations, I don’t think there would be a huge pushback from much of society.

 

[annnanovichova]

It does, but it really doesn’t do much. The Y-Chromosome is basically an “on” switch to start making dude parts. Some of the genes it activates are on the X chromosome. Some are elsewhere. As the old biochemistry joke goes “there’s only one chromosome you can live without and it affects nearly 51% of the population”

There are in fact cases of women with XY genomes. I don’t mean trans women, I mean real honest to goodness women who’s physical deformities aren’t detectable by the average Joe. These women “suffer” from a messed up Y chromosome, so the body just defaulted to X and went ahead and made a girl. There are some side effects of course. Some need hormonal replacement and some get a surgery to clean up any malformed internal tissues, but it’s not unheard of.

This is generally why I think that there are some truly trans people out there, because the genetics can get a bit blurry, hell, everything in biology is a bit blurry. It’s the level trans people we are seeing and what they are trying to push that scares me, not that they use some of biology’s weirder habits to make a point.

Swyer syndrome: MedlinePlus Genetics

Swyer syndrome is a condition that affects sex development. Explore symptoms, inheritance, genetics of this condition.

medlineplus.gov

Somewhat incorrect.
This is swyer syndrome phenotype- it's clearly reads as sorta-kinda man in the vein of Eastern Germany female swimmer, but the people affected do consider themselves mostly women and don't display much difference until puberty. They have male proto gonads and shallow pseudo-vagina.

The Woman With Unusual DNA: Swyer Syndrome | Medical Documentary | Reel Truth

Jeanne Nollman fails to hit puberty and is being told that she is just a late bloomer. Her doctor tells her that her ovaries are underdeveloped and can becom...

www.youtube.com

What you're talking about is rather Complete androgen insensitivity syndrome (CAIS) (it's different from androgen insensitivity syndrome). People affected are pretty much phenotypicaly female and some even have fully developed ovaries and uterus and at least one case is know of a XY CAIS female to have given birth (tho, to be honest, I guess it's rather impossible to figure out CAIS if such woman has everything functional without genetic testing, so the real numbers are unknown and we really only can count those who are do still have male features, because those are getting tested mostly).


That being said, it is still true, that genetically they are male, failed genetically, but genetically still male. Just because your Y doesn't work as designed it doesn't mean you don't have it. If intersex people are few permile (as most intersex embryos are not vible and miscarried early) and CAIS is estimated at 2-5 per 100 000 (0,002-5%), statistically speaking it's nonsignifacant in saying that female are XX and male are XY, binary is and it always was the same and non changing, even if it fails to properly express genetic coding. So I would call CAIS person a woman in social context, but I would still consider them male.