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💰 GrifterBronze Age Pervert (BAP) / Costin Vlad Alamariu & Associates / BAPists / BAPsphere / Frogtwitter / Greek Statue Twitter / "The Talmudic Network" - An "Ironic" Gay Romanian Jew Who LARPs as Bronze Age Warrior and Posts Topless Male Bodybuilders. Feuding Against Nick Fuentes Over Which One is Gayer. Defends Pederasty. Allegedly Funded by Peter Thiel & Followed by JD Vance. + His Orbiters
Is this the podcast you're looking for? I happened to remember seeing it in my Spotify library when you mentioned "Imperium". It didn't show up for me while searching DDG for a link to post. Even while searching the exact title.
That would be the show I believe. The episode i saw would be on dlive I think. I believe the bit about Russia he was talking with an old man from the English right. I guess dlive is kill?
Is this the podcast you're looking for? I happened to remember seeing it in my Spotify library when you mentioned "Imperium". It didn't show up for me while searching DDG for a link to post. Even while searching the exact title.
That would be the show I believe. The episode i saw would be on dlive I think. I believe the bit about Russia he was talking with an old man from the English right. I guess dlive is kill?
Ezra Klein is watching and reading BAP. And introducing NYT progressive normies to BAP and co. The libs have lost the guys and they are starting to recognize it as a problem.
The journalist Helen Lewis examines the ancient, angry gender politics of the New Right.
If you travel deep into the New Right, what you find at the moment is a constant yearning for something very old. Not just a time when America was great but also a time when men were great, when men were men. You hear it in Costin Vlad Alamariu, who’s better known as Bronze Age Pervert, and his longing for the Bronze Age.
Archival clip of Costin Vlad Alamariu: I am here just to spread the political views of the ancient Hittite Empire or the ancient MitanniEmpire
I want to try to run through some of these ideas. One of the founding fathers of this in the New Right is Bronze Age Pervert. Can you describe who that is?
He is a thinker whose real name is Costin Alamariu. He’s Romanian American, and he has a whole persona about bodybuilding and eugenics and Nietzsche.
Those are maybe his three favorite things. There’s almost an “I am Dracula” level to hamming up the accent. Once again, this is somebody who’s playing a character on the internet.
The way I describe the book — which is aesthetically interesting, even if, intellectually, it becomes a bit tedious — is that it has this really Nietzsche-for-gooners quality. It’s very Romantic poetry but filtered through 4chan lingo.
I want to play a clip of this interview he did with Michael Malice in 2024, talking about the problems of modernity.
Archival clip
Bronze Age Pervert: Why is it disgusting? It’s because it privileges safety and mere life, the preservation of life, at the expense of things that are exciting and great and free, you know?
When I wrote this book in 2018 — sorry to keep talking, Mike, if I may go on.
Michael Malice: No, this is why you’re here.
Bronze Age Pervert: When I wrote this book in 2018, some people liked it because I expressed myself directly and with humor and so on, and they said, “OK, BAP, this is very nice, but is it really true?”
And then what happened — people will say now I planned it. No, I didn’t plan it. The pandemic happened, which basically, I think, demonstrated the truth of what I’m saying. And the pandemic, in my view, was a mass sacrifice of the world’s youth to the desires of disgusting old people who sacrificed the youth and also to women, frankly, especially the middle-aged, sterile woman who made the pandemic procedures her whole life. It gave meaning to her life. I saw it in action, you know?
Malice: I can’t tell you how much joy it brings me to hear you with your accent say the phrase “these middle-aged, sterile women.” It’s just — mwah.
This book, “Bronze Age Mindset,” got written up in The Claremont Review of Books. There are reports that most young staff members in the Trump administration had read it. It had become a piece of code passed back and forth — samizdat.
The reason I think that clip is interesting is it combines the two things the book does, which is this sense that there is something more than mere life — he says, “The preservation of life at the expense of things that are exciting, great and free” — with the campy provocateurism, like: Oh, it makes me so excited to hear you say “middle-aged, sterile women.”
What’s this idea about privileging safety and mere life over things that are exciting and great and free?
Well, this is the idea that women, because of their lack of comparative thymos and testosterone, are weak and empathetic and they don’t want to put themselves in situations of danger. This is the idea that essentially the whole world has one giant H.R. department telling you that you’re not allowed to do the things you want to do anymore, particularly the kind of things that young men want to do.
I can understand why people feel like that, but I also think a huge amount of complacency has driven it. I don’t think people would be talking like that in a time when they had lost three of their eight children to a preventable disease before the age of 2.
I don’t think they would’ve been talking about that immediately after World War I, when you could quite easily have lost four of your sons in a completely pointless advance two miles across France.
This is an ideology that is born out of fat modernity itself. The luxury that they have to play with these ever so spicy ideas are because they’ve never lived these lives.
If you went over to somewhere that is currently in the middle of a conflict and you said to them, “Are you all enjoying this incredibly dangerous masculine experience that you’re having?” I think they’d actually like a stable food supply and peace.
It’s ironic that they talk about Fukuyama, because this is what he predicted in “The End of History and the Last Man.” He said that you’re going to end up with people who are just bored, full of ennui, and they’re going to have to find things to now entertain themselves because they don’t have the material deprivations and challenges that previous generations had.
That’s what I hear when I hear that. I hear, “Oh, we’re all having a go at Karens on a podcast. Isn’t it so spicy?” What has this got to do with the Spartans? This is just the fake, cosplay version of masculinity that everybody’s indulging in.
These people could sign up to the Army. They could go and serve in a war, and they’ve not chosen to do that. They’ve chosen to become podcasters. Interesting.
The LARPing point of that is very important because it is a bunch of intellectuals in elite competition with other intellectuals, a bunch of humanities academics. I mean, Bronze Age Pervert went to Yale, was it?
He’s definitely spent a few terms teaching, I think at Emory. And that’s the same with Jonathan Keeperman — L0m3z — who was an academic. Cornish-Dale has a Ph.D.
Many of my friends are academics. I can see how it slightly deranges people.
Bronze Age Pervert is on the pagan side. I want to go back to what you were saying about hierarchy and the Übermensch and Nietzsche. This is a quote from his book. He writes that Nietzsche:
never forgot that the fundamental fact of nature is inequality, and this is something these people, the followers of Heidegger, and Heidegger himself to a great degree, all forget. It is madness to ask the common prefab run of man to fashion his own way, his own “religion” — the many find solace and meaning only in submission. It is good that this is so, and they shouldn’t be made to feel ashamed for it. So much of the modern idiocy is based on shaming those who would find true pleasure in submission! The long chain of being is held together by command and obedience.
This is really the core politics of this book and a lot of these, which is that we have ended up in this Christianized liberal democracy that believes in equality and in doing so are subverting and denying the hierarchical dominance and obedience structures of nature.
There’s this interesting dimension in a bunch of these books and in culture broadly where it feels as if you’re watching men import what has more traditionally been a huge problem for women and girls really quite rapidly, which is this obsession with unrealizable body aesthetics.
Bronze Age Pervert, true to the name, is known for constantly posting pictures of tanned and muscled male bodies.
Cornish-Dale, or Raw Egg Nationalist, is a weight lifter and talks a lot about that in his book. There’s this whole idea of the pursuit of beauty as a way of aligning yourself to higher good.
This is from the “Bronze Age Mindset” in its weird internet grammar:
In same way see from all this that aesthetic physique has the most cosmic significance, and it is because of what I have said so far that aesthetic bodies are a “window to the other side,” because they are the pinnacle of nature.
This idea that there are subhumans — you find all that so often in the right-wing discourse on things like X.
You see it all over these books, too. There’s an explicit passage in “Bronze Age Mindset” where he talks about the problem of the Jews and they’re pallid and nerdy. They’ve made everybody want to be intellectual, conceptual, not connected to the real vital forces of being alive.
I mean, this is very old-fashioned antisemitism. And he tries to soften it by saying: Well, when I say the Jews, I’m not saying just the Jews or all the Jews.
But it’s straightforward. He uses the term directly, which is maybe to say all this is very old. This is all very old, and it expresses itself as old. It’s Bronze Age. It’s going back into Christian nationalism. It is all making this argument that modernity has taken a wrong turn.
It has taken a wrong turn in all of this equality among men and women, among people of different races and ethnic backgrounds — the idea that people in different countries have equal worth.
One thing this whole movement takes very seriously is aesthetics. And at every level of it, from Trump himself — who is very concerned with how the people around him look, how the spaces around him look, concerned in his own way with beauty — all the way down to these people like BAP, who at least put a certain conception of beauty, the physical form at the center of their politics.
The part where Klein is *hurk* most incisive is that BAPs vitality is the product of languid modernity. I quite liked this little book called On Nihilism by that ex San Francisco gay orthodox priest Seraphim Rose. He has a whole chapter on vitalism in culture which was more referring to a wave from back when he was young. It's not new. He described as the agitated motion of a world with nowhere left to go. A continual series of bursts of meaningless exuberance. I've come to view it as the limbic system kicking in and making a suffocating man thrash about. Costin and his gooners are a good example of Spenglers secularized man. Costin is really just a 2000s edgy atheist if I you pay close attention. He wants the chariots and war and adventure for their own sake and can never acknowledge that all of his men of power believed in something religiously. He eschews the purpose which drove men to great deeds in favor of the doing of them because he rejects destiny in favor of his eugenics and the tasty Spanish sauce reduction to the life Will. Just as Spengler describes the lifeless state of secularized man as rejecting destiny in favor of the obsession with the causal forces.
The part where Klein is *hurk* most incisive is that BAPs vitality is the product of languid modernity. I quite liked this little book called On Nihilism by that ex San Francisco gay orthodox priest Seraphim Rose. He has a whole chapter on vitalism in culture which was more referring to a wave from back when he was young. It's not new. He described as the agitated motion of a world with nowhere left to go. A continual series of bursts of meaningless exuberance. I've come to view it as the limbic system kicking in and making a suffocating man thrash about. Costin and his gooners are a good example of Spenglers secularized man. Costin is really just a 2000s edgy atheist if I you pay close attention. He wants the chariots and war and adventure for their own sake and can never acknowledge that all of his men of power believed in something religiously. He eschews the purpose which drove men to great deeds in favor of the doing of them because he rejects destiny in favor of his eugenics and the tasty Spanish sauce reduction to the life Will. Just as Spengler describes the lifeless state of secularized man as rejecting destiny in favor of the obsession with the causal forces.
When I used to post in a media-oriented place, there were often creeping discussions about what would become the trooning masses, and they hadn't gained enough power to browbeat criticism yet. I found myself reacting negatively to the whining expressed via 3rd-person references with something along the lines of "somebody needs to struggle to survive," as it is the only thing that will make people shut up.
It isn't just a lack of gratitude; it's neurosis from having no existential threat against which to strive.
Looking back on it I think when all these fags started posting wifejak in late 2024 that was the death knell for this entire sphere because it exposed how hollow and superficial the whole "nietzschean sigma bronze age barbarian sinister bodybuilder vitalist rapist warrior raw age milk guy" bit actually was. You cannot hold in common that you're a based racist nietzschean warrior who wants to burn down da longhouse, recolonize the third world, have total nigroid eradication, and post about how based and cool dirlewanger was, while also posting wholesome 100 keeanu chungus wife woah-jacks to signal to everyone that your wholesome wife is such a quirk chungus and you love her so much. Let alone lamenting how hecking unwholesome and EVIL it was that teenagers on twitter were posting drawings of pepe beheading wifejak and fucking her corpse (you know, drawings that were just commonplace on /b/ like 10 years ago, which none of these people remember because they're all subversive newfags who showed up yesterday).
The whole debacle showcased a pattern that would become their signature over the next 2 years: These people do not believe in anything, they do not mean half the things they say, and 90% of what they espouse is pure LARP or born out of a desire to be trendy. Everything they do and everything they say is following the newest xitter trend, the newest kewl aesthetic, the newest bandwagon to jump on to be cool like all the other goyim. In other words, it was always about slop and vibes, nothing more and nothing less. It's not about any sort of ideology, set of beliefs and principles, philosophy, or anything like that. Quite the opposite: It is one of the most incoherent, hedonistic, histrionic, frivolous, myopic fucking "movements" (if you could even call it that) I have ever seen, and to such a degree that would even put some of the most obnoxious leftoids to shame. At least they at least have enough discipline to focus their attention an issue for more than 5 seconds, whereas the average BAPoid/rightoid/migger is only capable of focusing on the newest pair of shiny keys being jingled in front of his retarded face for a minute at most before moving onto whatever the newest story or trend is.
Hasan Piker mentioned the BAPsphere a couple days ago while talking about edgy neo-nazi larpers that magically heel-turned into being zionists right after October 7th:
Hasan Piker mentioned the BAPsphere a couple days ago while talking about edgy neo-nazi larpers that magically heel-turned into being zionists right after October 7th:
The funny thing is, this might be the highest profile mention of the BAP niggers in recent times? Any excitement that people felt for those mongs has long since passed now that THEIR GUYS are supposedly in power and so little of what was promised actually happened.
The thiel market certainly is languid lately anyway. BAP had just started an interesting series on the transition of soviet Russia into Putins reign, then abruptly put out a fucking travel episode which is his worst content by far. Honestly I think BAP isnt as important a figure as he's generally been made out to be by the anti thiel contingent. I think this dude is genuinely a weird disorganized autist who enjoyed way too much clout on Twitter for a time which is now past. Frankly Twitter is kinda over too. I dont see Twitter having the kind of relevance it's enjoyed in the next election cycle. I might have to see what Instagram is like but idk social media is dead.
Twitter feels like Tumblr just before 2016-2017, around the time of the first Trump election and when Verizon acquired Yahoo and by extension, Tumblr. Only thing that’s different is that I feel there really is no network beyond the one we have now. The internet is in a transition - we are finally being corralled. Much like how the Boomers had their Big 3 television networks, we will have our Big Social Media companies.
I think the peak of the BAPverse and the broader online right occurred around late 2019 up until 2023. If there was ever the right time to have a thread on BAP or the online right in general, that was the time. Certainly to some extent the political orientation of the KF user base prevented such a thread from forming about 3-5 years ago - I wouldn’t be surprised if some you niggas were gleefully retweeting some rightoid gemposting back then. Maybe even you had a e-daddy in the scene!
Many things on Twitter feel old, and they too are victims of being documented on a thread far too late - the Remilia thread is another that could have been made sooner, especially since that grooming debacle blew up 5 years ago. I have a draft that’s been sitting on there for a few weeks if months to correct something I said in an earlier post on that thread. I’m not even aware if I sent it or not! Same goes for this thread, but I just can’t be bothered! At the reason is simple: everything that has been discussed on these threads is merely glossing over something whose moment has passed. Consider the post-left/Dimes Square threads on /snow/ - these threads wait several months before hitting the max post count when in earlier times a single thread could have covered a month’s worth of posting if not less. Those threads covered a notable, although localized surface symptom of the online circles we discuss here and they too are dead.
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The funny thing is, this might be the highest profile mention of the BAP niggers in recent times? Any excitement that people felt for those mongs has long since passed now that THEIR GUYS are supposedly in power and so little of what was promised actually happened.
It sure is a cohencidence that these edgy fags who have no real followers but keep getting referenced by mostly Jewish pundits became hardcore zionists after October 7. Also cohencidentally, Jews like Nate Silver, Ezra Klein, and Matthew Yglesias started openly opining if the left was going too far in the culture wars and now have to bring it back.
Raw Egg Nationalist aka Charles Cornish-Dale - the worst slop poster in the BAP community - known to many for claiming he was a blonde haired & blue eyed aryan before his dox revealed him to be a very brown Libyan, a man who also platformed Pariah Doll (a troon) in his deeply homoerotic magazine has now fully embraced his brown status by uploading a video of himself reacting to and ogling a HUWHITE woman with huge tits walking in a field. In the mind of a porn-sick Libyan living in Britain, these tits have a lot to do with birthright citizenship in America?
Patrick Casey shot to fame as a Groyper after posing a question to Charlie Kirk and some token gay nigger at some event: "how does anal sex help us win the culture war?" Perhaps Casey could regain his balls and ask a similar question to his buddy REN: 'how does a dirty Arab staring at White women with big tits help the White race?' Tweet
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He's not exactly wrong, a lot of right wingers get doxed and nothing is done. It happens the other way too, but it's a useful cudgel to claim your enemies are getting away with the same shit you are.
Elon has absolutely nothing to do with the day to day stuff on twitter. That unbanning was Milo's handiwork, he has a straight line to niki or whatever his name is. Not sure where you got the idea Elon logged on and unbanned Martin, that is fuckign delusional.
Perhaps Casey could regain his balls and ask a similar question to his buddy REN: 'how does a dirty Arab staring at White women with big tits help the White race?'
