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Even at the deepest points of vile degeneracy that could be spawned by human mind you're gonna find a loony troon with a pickaxe ready to make it even deeper for no fucking reason other than to satisfy his depraved urges. If I was a father of that botched parody of a human being I would kill myself out of shame.
Another update from the bail terms guys. >mimi verified this herself, her name was never jordan. lmfao
>I don't know that name...
My take is that if it's not an explicit denial, then that can be taken as tricky wording. "I do not recognise that name", "I do no identify with that name", etc. Ver archivo adjunto 8962495Ver archivo adjunto 8962501 N / A
Also worth mentioning that directly DFE'ing accounts is probably not a good look under active investigation. Either they're not relevant to the case (and the fear is they'll exacerbate the charges and / or affect public perception) meaning it's a direct cp charge, or it is relevant to the case and they can see you actively deleting shit.
I want to also point out how ridicolous this is as it does not cover what Jordan comissioned himself. He is paying people to make this shit, and it is undeniable as this commisions feature his character which is clearly meant to be underage. Everything will be put in spoilers, censored, further cropped, and blurred before clicking on the images. Still, open them at your own discretion.
His first point is: "1. Illicit writing alluding to the creator being a MAP or supporting MAP ideals"
Jordan commisioned a minute long animation featuring his character.
Although this does not overlap entirely with his first point, I do think it still heavily applies. Jordan's character is supposed to be a child, is given child-like proportions, is wearing a backpack which children wear, and has a rape buzzer made for children. This character is raped (I say raped because although it is a drawing, it still depicts rape, that's like saying you can't describe an animated character being killed by another animated characted as "being murded" because it's fictional. Real fucking retarded semantics argument) by it's older brother and father.
Here we can see the character is clearly Jordan's.
This character has objects made for children.
As for the dialouge in the animation.
His second point is: "2. Beasty content of any kind"
As the troon said they did find NSFW Pokemon drawings, so I will skip over those. Going over the horses. He commisioned 3 drawings featuring his child character, one of which was animated. Jordan did not commision anything with dogs, however he did follow quite a few artists who made drawings with dogs.Jordan did in fact commision drawings of dogs.
His third point is one that I find extremely dishonest, as the OP never claims what he wants to prove: "3. What is referred to as 'todcon' among some groups"
The OP clearly states that Jordan was FOLLOWING an account which only made obscene drawings of toddlers, not that art was in his favorites/bookmarks.
Just to restate to show how dishonest this is: He claims this artwork was found in a different part of Jordan's profile, then uses that as "proof" that we are lying.
Something that I would also like to point out from his post is this: "- There was nothing real or "realistic" looking in the entire thing. It was all clearly generic anime style." We never claimed that, so including that at the top of the post is incredibly weird. These people lie as they breathe.
A part of me has a morbid respect for lolifags and furries who admit and create an image around themselves as being who they say they are. At least they're easier to identify.
The ones that deny it are worse by far. People like finnster and taigaholic gross me out more than chibireviews ever could. Just from them not being able to even comprehend why people find whatever you're doing to be gross. It is the complete and unashamed endorsement of grooming or toddler shotacon that can only come from someone who sees absolutely nothing wrong with it at all. Those are the ones that show up on to catch a predator and are genuinely confused as to why raping a child is bad. They see nothing wrong with it at all. Admittedly people who know it's wrong but will vocally and staunchly defend it are pretty close behind in how likely I think they are to be a serial child rapist.
Another update from the bail terms guys. >mimi verified this herself, her name was never jordan. lmfao
>I don't know that name...
My take is that if it's not an explicit denial, then that can be taken as tricky wording. "I do not recognise that name", "I do no identify with that name", etc. Ver archivo adjunto 8962495Ver archivo adjunto 8962501 N / A
Also worth mentioning that directly DFE'ing accounts is probably not a good look under active investigation. Either they're not relevant to the case (and the fear is they'll exacerbate the charges and / or affect public perception) meaning it's a direct cp charge, or it is relevant to the case and they can see you actively deleting shit.
Wooooooooah buddy!@Rebel Lucy is back at it again! With two long tweets addressed to us. Nitter / Archive
Mizutamari dijo:
Apparently groups are upset about my Mimi thread trying to say I'm lying cause if you dig through the images some of them have alternates with illicit writing.
I've still only been shown exactly one example of this, again out of over 2000 images. I need more then one image alternate version that's not immediately visible to establish a pattern.
Mizu, in his first tweet, addresses us as "groups" and he is clearly referring to KF as these "groups" in this tweet. And yes, I do believe Mizu is being dishonest, as if he actually read the thread, he would know there are more examples of this type of context that glorifies pedophilia via its subtitles combined with the pornographic nature.
Three more examples of Mimi's bookmarking of this pornographic content that glorified pedophilia were in the OP of the thread. There were two more below, but those have already been addressed. The subtitle for the first image says, "OH YAH~ NASTY PEDO-HOBO CUM! GIVE IT TO ME, SIS!"
It doesn't really matter if these images were the minority out of thousands of images. Those images being bookmarked is already disturbing enough. Like, how many more images would convince Mizu that this person is deeply mentally disturbed, 50, 100, 300, 800, or 1000 more images of this type of content?
Mizutamari dijo:
Some people are also saying tracing happened. If I had to guess any account doing it, it might be one called "crumbles" but I highly doubt it, their art does, it just has a sus quality to it i can't put my finger on. That said Mimi liked their art cause they did pieces of Mimi specifically. They're not like a main stay in their likes.
Literally nobody in this thread claimed tracing happened. Mizu is indirectly or directly implying this was claimed by this thread. Which isn't true whatsoever.
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Mizutamari dijo:
The big issue with people who want me to be wrong is they can't articulate clearly what something actually is. They have to obscure it under multiple layers of BS to make it seem as bad as possible, then when I go looking for it, I can't find it cause they're not being clear as to what I'm even looking for.
Also I didn't really want to share any of it, but I'll share this cropped version. This is the alleged Lazy Town picture (that Mimi didn't even like) that's so realistic and accurate that they believe it sexualized the real life actress.
Nowhere in the OP did it claim the sexual drawing of the character Stephanie from LazyTown was "realistic or accurate." The only mention of realism was in reference to the actresses that played Stephanie, both of whom were minors. Nothing about the drawing itself.
Mizu's tweet contained a cropped section of the drawing of Stephanie. The cropped area only shows the face. Putting it under a spoiler just to be safe.
For comparison, here are the two child actresses that played Stephanie.
Here is the thing: did the sexualized drawing of Stephanie have a realistic art style? No, it didn't, and that was never the claim. Yes, it would have made it far worse had it done so. The elephant in the room is that this is a sexualized drawing of a character from a LIVE-ACTION show for children. A character who was played by Julianna Rose Mauriello and Chloe Lang, both of whom were MINORS. Creating sexualized content from a live-action kid's show is creepy enough, but what is even creepier is sexualizing the minors from it.
By making a sexualized drawing of that character as a child, the pornographer is also de facto sexualizing the actresses that played her. Even if this wasn't their intention, they are still sexualizing the minors that played Stephanie. It doesn't matter if the art style is styled in an anime way, the minors are still being sexualized. Due to LazyTown being live action, the actors and actresses of the characters are directly connected with each other. It's not a cartoon or an anime. Live action involves the real appearance and character of human beings.
The same defensive arguments and the downplaying of this are the EXACT same ones I heard back in the day when people defended Shadman's drawings based off real-life children. "Oh, it's still a drawing at the end of the day. The art style isn't realistic and is anime, and thus it's okay. Uhm, it's based off the character, not the actress of (insert live-action show)."
This isn't the thing anyone should defend at all. The can of worms they would be opening is not worth it at all. This sexualized drawing of Stephanie was depicting her as a child. Thus, the defensive arguments of "it was an aged-up adult version" or "it was an adult cosplaying the outfit" don't work in this context. As said before, the same defensive arguments have been used before to defend people like Shadman and any other examples like him.
Moving on to Mizu's next tweet, here he directly mentions us by calling us "Green Reddit." Discount Chibi Reviews from Australia makes a reply. Nitter / Archive
Mizutamari dijo:
The biggest issue I'm having with the green reddit thread in regards to research is it doesn't follow any of the normal site procedure/culture.
Nothing is linked, nothing is archived, much of the evidence is openly stated to not be on or near Mimi's profile but they censor the names and links of where it is at. I'm stuck searching for artists and images with just a date and the word "cømmīssīon."
Mizu makes the absolute claim that "nothing is linked," and "nothing is archived." Both claims are completely wrong to anyone who actually read this thread. Mizu claims we censored the names of the artists, which is only correct for one case. That being the person behind the LazyTown Stephanie drawing, that person being DriftingTiger.
Something else that should be mentioned is that parts of the thread were written by different people. Thus, the sections will feel notably different in style and formatting.
Here is a video of me going through the thread, proving there were actually links and archives, thus debunking Mizu's absolute claim.
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Mizutamari dijo:
I do research as best I can on these issues but people are intentionally making it difficult then trying to criticize me when I don't find the one image they want me to see buried under literally thousands of others.
I'd be lying if I said AI hadn't been a massive help in tracking down info. Some systems seem really good at finding web pages with partial screenshots. But I shouldn't have to rely on a schizophrenic robot to find evidence you claim to have.
Apparently, Mizu had to use AI tools to help him find some of the sources of the information. I'm guessing he is talking about the Stephanie drawing. Which, by the way, was extremely easy to find, as the tags are literally shown in the screenshot from the OP. It would appear Mizu is unaware of how to use the search bar properly.
Mizutamari dijo:
I did my huge thread going through Mimis pixiv not because it mattered but to show how information gets twisted and lied about. To show why you should always do your own research and never take anyone's word for it.
At the end of the day it's all drawings. If some of it has text or messages I find to be detestable then I'll denounce it, but I'm not asking for it to be banned because "words that offend" are the express thing free speech is supposed to defend.
And I don't wanna hear from the doxxing website that calls people N-Words constantly about how free speech is slippery slope to violence. Your ass is already 1st, 2nd and 3rd on the chopping block as soon as free speech protections go down. They regularly get requests from governments all over the world already for user info cause much of what they do is illegal outside of America.
How funny that Mizu claimed to have done research. Meanwhile, his entire Twitter thread is completely reliant on you trusting his word. He didn't even prove his claims with evidence, only words.
And of course, Mizu had to do the classic "muh drawings." It would appear it doesn't matter to Mizu if said drawings were based on a live-action character who was played by minors. It wasn't a 1 for 1 drawing, but it was still based off real-life minors. I'm curious to hear his opinion about Shadman, since "muh drawings" can be used to defend his work based on real-life minors.
It's funny that Mizu talks about free speech. I wonder where he was when people were calling for the shutdown of Kiwi Farms and the arrest or even execution of its users all because of their speech. Or when people advocated the same for those who made fun of Chibi Reviews, people like TaxedBrass were targeted in that. Many people advocated for the arrest or even death for him all because of his edgy tweet against Chibi.
Mizutamari dijo:
Hell, the irony of it is the entire a Mimi thread alone violates about a dozen UK and EU laws and regulations. You'd literally be in the cell across from Mimi you idiots.
Damn Kiwi bros... According to Mizu, a very trusted source, this thread violates about a dozen UK and EU laws and regulations. We are SCREWED!!!
Also, there is one more thing. It's very ironic that @Rebel Lucy is calling us "Green Reddit." This is another case of their accusation being a confession. If you weren't aware, Mizu, under their previous usernames of PlayBunnyLucy and Rebel-Lucy, was fairly active on Reddit. One notable thing they did on it was the creation of r/transpilled. This subreddit was meant for trans people, as Mizu was trans during that time. The rules of the subreddit allowed lewd content to be posted, and it directly allowed minors to participate in this subreddit.
Thankfully, this subreddit was completely dead, and nobody but Mizu actually used it. Thankfully, there were no minors that were victimized by trans ideology. But Mizu did set the foundations for allowing such things to happen. But thankfully, they never did, but what if they did?
Here is the post that goes more in-depth with this.
Rule 3: Feel free to post whatever, from lewds to advice, from basic questions to deep philosophical debate, just talk; but please, try not to turn this into a fully political sub, thank you. <3
Rule 5: This is an adult oriented sub! If you are underage you are welcome to stay but PLEASE, use discretion and DO NOT post any personal pictures of yourself. It is for your own safety. Trust me, you might thank me later.
Chibi is now claiming it wasn't a Shadman situation, because I don't fucking know. Shadman also produced stylized art, but because this art has been deemed to be not enough to meet the standard despite the fact that Stephanie has only every been played by child actors and has never appeared in an animated way. It's funny how the standards have change. It started off with "there's no art of real children" to "well there's an animated version, so how can we say it's based of a child" to "okay it was never animated, but it's not bad enough for me to care".
Mizu's tweet contained a cropped section of the drawing of Stephanie. The cropped area only shows the face. Putting it under a spoiler just to be safe.
Is this meant to make me like him more? Because that looks fucking younger than the actual actress. Yea the child looks like early teens this image looks like primary school age. No chud I wasn't wanking over teenagers I was wanking over toddlers get fucking pwned that's so much better.
Maybe I'm just biased from being a britbong and seing the overeach our goverment does but from this persons surprisingly nuanced takes on Rowling and Israel despite being a british, transgender leftist I was really hoping this was just something blown out of proportion. Sigh.
When did people start censoring spoilered images on the farms? If it's trying to skirt around laws about drawings of children why are the adults censored too? This isn't a youtube video trying to stay monetized.
Admittedly the ones that show the ribs and bulging stomach creep me out more than anything else, because that's how actual children look. It reminds me of those pictures of starving kids in Africa or naked kids on the beach. If someone were to draw porn of misty from pokemon or billy and mandy and it was drawn in the artstyle of the show that probably wouldn't bother me because it's so "cartoony" in both appearance and behavior it's probably just someone who likes the character and it isn't them being a child that's the appeal. When loli drawings have those subtle realistic traits not only is that ambiguity lost, it makes you wonder where the artist got their references.
Also, there is one more thing. It's very ironic that @Rebel Lucy is calling us "Green Reddit." This is another case of their accusation being a confession. If you weren't aware, Mizu, under their previous usernames of PlayBunnyLucy and Rebel-Lucy, was fairly active on Reddit. One notable thing they did on it was the creation of r/transpilled. This subreddit was meant for trans people, as Mizu was trans during that time. The rules of the subreddit allowed lewd content to be posted, and it directly allowed minors to participate in this subreddit.
When did people start censoring spoilered images on the farms? If it's trying to skirt around laws about drawings of children why are the adults censored too? This isn't a youtube video trying to stay monetized.
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I wasn't talking about the blur, I was talking about people taking the time to add little black boxes on already spoilered content. They even censored the word 'pedophile' in one image. It's gay 'unalive' behavior.
Edit: Would not let me quote an image. Censoring the words "illegal" but not "Pedophile" despite censoring "pedophile" elsewhere. Wtf is this?
User discretion I guess. Lolipedos often turn around and say "you can't post what we're jacking off to and call it cp, you're perpetuating what you call cp"
That shows how little they know about this place. Certainly, specific threads have their own culture and can get circle-jerky at times, but the fact we have threads for the same subject but two different points of view (often on politics) bears out the fact this place isn't an echo chamber. You will be called a faggot if you make a fool of yourself, but defending CSAM and lolicons is one of the few things that will net you an instant ban, and that's mostly if Null catches you personally.
I wasn't talking about the blur, I was talking about people taking the time to add little black boxes on already spoilered content. They even censored the word 'pedophile' in one image. It's gay 'unalive' behavior.
User discretion I guess. Lolipedos often turn around and say "you can't post what we're jacking off to and call it cp, you're perpetuating what you call cp".
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Can't comment on the strike throughs. I'm not aware of if it was the poster or original image. It's a trope in doujins, so it could be either.
That shows how little they know about this place. Certainly, specific threads have their own culture and can get circle-jerky at times, but the fact we have threads for the same subject but two different points of view (often on politics) bears out the fact this place isn't an echo chamber. You will be called a faggot if you make a fool of yourself, but defending CSAM and lolicons is one of the few things that will net you an instant ban, and that's mostly if Null catches you personally.
It's late as fuck so I can't be bothered with more in depth examples but the site absolutely has reddit tier circle jerking, just with an edgier twist. The stinkditch boards are one example in that if you don't agree with even the most schizo take on trans people you are clearly are tranny and therefore also pedo. Indians are starting to get the same treatment. In true reddit fashion I guarantee at least one person will reply to this with some version of "yes we do do that, but that's because they..."
WOOOOOOOOOOOAH BUDDY! Mizutamari, once again proving his dishonesty on full display! He has responded, but did he actually address everything? Of course not; he intentionally took screenshots out of context and created strawman arguments.
Not only that, he also FALSELY claimed that Kiwi Farms is "swatting" Chibi Reviews. Claims that are COMPLETELY unsubstantiated. Nitter / Archive
Including "it doesn't matter if it was a few images out of thousands."
Mizu disingenuously cropped this out of context and falsely implies I am talking about general actors and characters. I clearly state I am talking about CHILD ACTORS. Here is the full context that Mizu excluded.
By making a sexualized drawing of that character as a child, the pornographer is also de facto sexualizing the actresses that played her. Even if this wasn't their intention, they are still sexualizing the minors that played Stephanie. It doesn't matter if the art style is styled in an anime way, the minors are still being sexualized. Due to LazyTown being live action, the actors and actresses of the characters are directly connected with each other. It's not a cartoon or an anime. Live action involves the real appearance and character of human beings.
This is hilarious coming from Mizu, as he is very interested in lawfare. He should know what he is saying is a COMPLETELY unsubstantiated allegation. But he is falsely presenting a factual claim that Kiwi Farms swatted Chibi Reviews. A claim that is untrue and is borderline libelous.
Also that their thread wouldn't be illegal in the UK despite posting numerous pictures they are openly admitting they think are illegal CSAM.
Are there any examples of people doing this? Uhh, bro, trust me, as usual from Mizu.
Notice how Mizu didn't even address everything. He is so disingenuous by excluding all the context. I wonder why...
Oh, wait. It's probably because Mizutamari (@Rebel Lucy) ran an "adult-oriented" subreddit that allowed lewd content to be posted, and minors were allowed in the subreddit. https://archive.ph/x63v1
Another update from the bail terms guys. >mimi verified this herself, her name was never jordan. lmfao
>I don't know that name...
My take is that if it's not an explicit denial, then that can be taken as tricky wording. "I do not recognise that name", "I do no identify with that name", etc. Ver archivo adjunto 8962495Ver archivo adjunto 8962501 N / A
Also worth mentioning that directly DFE'ing accounts is probably not a good look under active investigation. Either they're not relevant to the case (and the fear is they'll exacerbate the charges and / or affect public perception) meaning it's a direct cp charge, or it is relevant to the case and they can see you actively deleting shit.
The funniest part about this is that the guy unironically thinks that them denying means that it's an inheret fact. And even so, that's not the main problem here. You can still go on Mimi's old socials and see that they actively consumed various porn that promoted & glorified pedophilia. No amount of blindsiding people with messages from an unverified account claiming to be Mimi will change the fact that you can see this porn under their bookmarks.
Mizu disingenuously cropped this out of context and falsely implies I am talking about general actors and characters. I clearly state I am talking about CHILD ACTORS. Here is the full context that Mizu excluded.
Such a rule, whether it's conclusion is that sexualizing a character is or isn't sexualizing the actor, should apply the same for both adults and children to make any sense though.
Such a rule, whether it's conclusion is that sexualizing a character is or isn't sexualizing the actor, should apply the same for both adults and children to make any sense though.
That would imply children and adults are equal. They are not. They both have different rights and protections, as they should.
The rule could be applied to adult actors as well, but it's more complex due to adults being different from children and the context of the acting may be different. An adult actor has the ability to consent to such material being made from their likeness. A child actor cannot consent in every context.
In most contexts, it's still an unethical thing to do to an adult or especially a child. Especially given the rise of deepfakes and AI generative technology. Such content using the likeness of real-life human beings will become more prevalent.