Iran Crisis & the 2026 War between Iran and the United States, Gulf States, and Israel - Please focus on news and coverage, not argumentation.

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JayseeDenton dijo:
It's fascinating that I can read this and have no idea if your friends are extremely left wing or extremely right wing.
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I see your point, but they're all Lefties to some degree. Otherwise, I might've been more inclined to speak up and explain how curbstomping America's third-biggest geopolitical adversary is actually based and happened thanks to a rare moment of opportunity.
 
ThisIsGonnaBeGood dijo:
describes everyone he has a single conversation with as a "great leader," though.
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Let me try.

Recently had a WONDERFUL and PRODUCTIVE conversation with the great leader of the Kiwi Farms, Joshua Moon. He suggested that I should kill myself.

Lebanon is kind of a fun side story in all of this, though. Not many people are focusing on it, even during the negotiations despite being such a huge sticking point to the ceasefire, but it's critical to the outcome. Lebanon's government has seemed quite amenable, all things considered.
 
JayseeDenton dijo:
It's fascinating that I can read this and have no idea if your friends are extremely left wing or extremely right wing.
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the horseshoe is real and it is brown

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Schwarzwald dijo:
Lebanon's government has seemed quite amenable, all things considered.
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Lebanon's government has never really been a fan of Hezbollah, but until now, they've just not had the military or economic backing to take them on meaningfully.
Here's hoping that with Trump and Rubio being actively involved, this time it'll be different. It'd be nice to have Hezbollah taken off the board via Israel partnering with Lebanon rather than just occupying them.
 
Burnt Fish dijo:
The guidelines put forth by centcom at the start of the blockade stated that humanitarian shipments for things like food and medicine would be allowed to pass dependent on inspection of the shipments by the US.

So folks thinking we're full on in seige warfare with Iran might want to step back from thinking we're going to deny them food and water.
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How easy do you think it is to inspect a bulk carrier full of grain for contraband while afloat in a combat zone with whoever happened to be on the destroyer when it left for the theater? It's not going to be fast.

On top of that, the shipper has to account for the inevitable delay, the risk of being turned away or the rial tanking. Why send cargo through a war zone and wait for days or weeks to get it to people who likely can't pay for it?
 
Big Lick dijo:
I know the other thread says stuff like that, but it was really disheartening to hear all this from a friend, and similar things mentioned by coworkers.
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Sorry to hear that man. There come unfortunate times when you have to confront that maybe you really have overestimated the intelligence of people you like, and that they're as retarded and susceptible to lies and propaganda as anyone else in the general public.
Big Lick dijo:
When I confront them on these points, for example, I asked them why would they want to believe that the pilots died instead of being rescued, what point would it serve to lie about it? They just laughed at me for believing that someone could "climb a mountain in one hour then jump in a helicopter."
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The truth is that these people are not interested in the truth, they want reality to conform to what makes them feel good. They want to be the smart guy seeing through the government lies and hold their heads up above what they perceive as a sea of ignoramuses. The first hurdle with convincing these people isn't giving them compelling evidence, it's getting them to admit to themselves they were wrong or were tricked, and that is a bridge too far for so many people out there. There are people who would rather die than admit they were wrong, and it's a cult-like self reinforcing bubble they live in.

It's unfortunate, but it's consequences of living in a post-truth society.
 
Catch The Rainbow dijo:
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Just do war this way already:
Upon arriving at Eminiar, Kirk...takes a landing party to meet with the planet's council...the planet's currently embroiled in a terrible war with its neighboring planet Vendikar...an incoming attack is announced, and everyone rushes to their computers. They talk about several strikes breaking through their defenses and massive casualties, yet the regular reports from Scotty and everyone else on Kirk's ship indicate no explosions, surges of radiation, or destruction of any kind. Still, the casualties mount, and then Spock starts realizing this war of theirs is purely theoretical. It turns out that Eminiar and Vendikar are actually in the middle of recreating the final scenes of WarGames, but in this war, the calculated dead in the affected areas are each given 24 hours to do their patriotic duty and march themselves into disintegration chambers.
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这次我发誓死不发帖 dijo:
How easy do you think it is to inspect a bulk carrier full of grain for contraband while afloat in a combat zone with whoever happened to be on the destroyer when it left for the theater? It's not going to be fast.

On top of that, the shipper has to account for the inevitable delay, the risk of being turned away or the rial tanking. Why send cargo through a war zone and wait for days or weeks to get it to people who likely can't pay for it?
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At the level of ease we'll be inspecting cargo of other ships to enforce our blockade and avoid Iran pulling workarounds to get oil and petrochemicals through. We stated we would be searching vessels because we are capable of doing so.

On top of that Iran is already receiving humanitarian aid over land routes from Turkey and elsewhere. and the nature of humanitarian aid is that it doesn't matter if the party is able to pay for it, it's aid.

My point being that this isn't a siege "starve the enemy as their food runs out" 'situation, it is an economic blockade. So my expectations of what will happen going forward from there are based on that.
 
Fishnumm dijo:
they also abandoned a christian revolt in china so they could pump them full of opium

britain and france disgust me
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Point of order, that revolt you are referring to is the Taiping Rebellion. Which was an utter shit show that killed 30 million people, and was led by a man who claimed to be the brother of Jesus Christ. Calling his "God Worshipping Society" Christian is charitable at best. It was a mash up of nontrinitarian Protestant heresy with full blown Buddhism, on a nice foundation of pure batshit apocalypse cult.
 
mindlessobserver dijo:
Point of order, that revolt you are referring to is the Taiping Rebellion. Which was an utter shit show that killed 30 million people, and was led by a man who claimed to be the brother of Jesus Christ. Calling his "God Worshipping Society" Christian is charitable at best. It was a mash up of nontrinitarian Protestant heresy with full blown Buddhism, on a nice foundation of pure batshit apocalypse cult.
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better than godless communism or gross gooky religions
 
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