What conspiracy theories do you believe in? - Put your tinfoil hats on

Do you guys ever wonder what Jung might say about the fact that a lot of Zoomers now refer to Hitler as "the artist", "the painter" or "Austrian painter"?
In 1936 Jung called him the embodiment of the Wotan myth (the god of frenzy, war and ecstasy) but in 2025 people see him as an artist... How curious

Althalus dijo:

It was rumored (with little/no proof as far as I know) that Terry Davis designed gov't backdoors into computer hardware/operating systems back in the 90s. Allegedly, the spooks deliberately Mkultra'd him after the fact to prevent him from speaking about the details of what he designed. Which was allegedly the main reason he developed schizophrenia and was constantly paranoid of gov't agents. I sometimes wonder if there were/are others like Terry who did gov't work and went schizo after, but he was just the most visible for some reason.

Something that is slightly more provable, (albeit less exciting) is the fact that the U.S. recently had to start a redesign their Minuteman ballistic missiles, because the engineers that originally designed and maintained them back in the 1960s had all (allegedly) died of old age and had never trained others on their knowledge for security reasons.

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That's.... isn't that unlikely.

People born in 1960 are 65 years old. Now you don't design nukes in a crib.

Senior personnel were then what, 35, 50 years old? At best if we say this engineer master was 30, that means he was born in 1930. He would be 95 now.

Now why they wouldn't train others for security reasons? I don't know why, possibly overtly paranoid generals, but that happens a lot with US stuff. Even with non MIC stuff like the Saturn rocket.

Cromwell dijo:

Do you guys ever wonder what Jung might say about the fact that a lot of Zoomers now refer to Hitler as "the artist", "the painter" or "Austrian painter"?
In 1936 Jung called him the embodiment of the Wotan myth (the god of frenzy, war and ecstasy) but in 2025 people see him as an artist... How curious

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That's just because it is a convenient code word that the shutitdown algorithms can't easily grasp yet. Its how youtube sometimes deletes "lol fat women" comments, but if I say "overly large hippo" it won't notice.

Cromwell dijo:

but in 2025 people see him as an artist

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It’s understatement for dramatic effect. this is a mainstay of British humour. They aren’t actually referring to him as an artist.

Otterly dijo:

It’s understatement for dramatic effect. this is a mainstay of British humour. They aren’t actually referring to him as an artist.

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Male Idiot dijo:

That's just because it is a convenient code word that the shutitdown algorithms can't easily grasp yet. Its how youtube sometimes deletes "lol fat women" comments, but if I say "overly large hippo" it won't notice.

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To clarify, I am not saying that people LITERALLY think of him as only an artist, or that they knowingly are imbuing any significance into this joke in any way.
But as Jungian analysis goes, the argument is that the subconscious mind shapes a lot of these things in ways that are less immediately obvious. There are countless things people could be calling him for comedic effect, old one-testicle, the Bavarian homeless man (Hitler was homeless in Bavaria for a time if I recall correctly) etc. I find it interesting that the one that sticks most is "artist". Does that make any sense?

No, you are being artistic. It is an easy reference because normies get it and its reltively short.

Just think as how leftits do it. Everyone knows Orange Man Bad means Trump is evil.

But if they made, Business Tychoon who failed company X in Y year, it wouldn't be obvious.

Or you can say "Guy from Betlehem" and people will get Jesus. But if you go for "middle eastern carpenter" people may miss it.

Male Idiot dijo:

No, you are being artistic. It is an easy reference because normies get it and its reltively short.

Just think as how leftits do it. Everyone knows Orange Man Bad means Trump is evil.

But if they made, Business Tychoon who failed company X in Y year, it wouldn't be obvious.

Or you can say "Guy from Betlehem" and people will get Jesus. But if you go for "middle eastern carpenter" people may miss it.

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Again, its still interesting to me that for normies and chronically online x users alike, other than being literally Hitler, the most notable thing about the man's life was his interest in art. The obvious reason is that art contrasts so dramatically from being a warlord, so it stands out as a contrast. There doesn't have to be anything kooky about it & even if it means absolutely nothing in real terms, its still interesting from a narrative and historic perspective. Genghis Kahn was a nomad, Stalin was a bank robber, George Washington was a general and Hitler was an artist.
For people, normies especially, who need shorthand references and signifiers to understand a historical figure without reading a million books, these things tend to shape historical memory. Even our highschool history teacher made the argument that being a failed artist must have shaped Hitler in some way

Hitler was even a Disney Fan who had a private screening of "Snow White" arranged for himself and drew fan art of the Dwarves ...

Althalus dijo:

I sometimes wonder if there were/are others like Terry who did gov't work and went schizo after,

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Charles Manson and Jim Jones for sure. Stephen Paddock of the supposed Las Vegas shootings.

As for the why? It's for research purposes. They have finished using an asset with highly classified, specialist knowledge. Can they turn him into a killing machine by pushing certain buttons? Can they send him into their enemy and have him create schitzo code for their programs to hold the enemy back?

Can you paint as well as this? If not, you are literally worse than Hitler.

I think it's just the fact that the left has been calling everyone Hitler for so long that the kids realize it so they call him the artist to show they are actually talking about Hitler?

I'm giving the youth far too much credit, aren't I?

Cromwell dijo:

Again, its still interesting to me that for normies and chronically online x users alike, other than being literally Hitler, the most notable thing about the man's life was his interest in art. The obvious reason is that art contrasts so dramatically from being a warlord, so it stands out as a contrast. There doesn't have to be anything kooky about it & even if it means absolutely nothing in real terms, its still interesting from a narrative and historic perspective. Genghis Kahn was a nomad, Stalin was a bank robber, George Washington was a general and Hitler was an artist.
For people, normies especially, who need shorthand references and signifiers to understand a historical figure without reading a million books, these things tend to shape historical memory. Even our highschool history teacher made the argument that being a failed artist must have shaped Hitler in some way

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because a lot of young people have had the experience of going to an institution of higher learning and come to the realization that it's a den of vipers and that's essentially what's being communicated shorthand. It's not simply the fact that hitler failed to get in to art school, there's an established pool of his art the demonstrates he was in fact skilled enough to train to become a profesional artist, but the tastes and trends of the cultural gatekeepers of weimar germany did not value his skill set and rejected him. Oh, and they were all jews and he ended up trying to kill all of them. It's like jesus expelling the money lenders from the temple recrystalized into a different and much more easily understood form



this? colorful, expressive, thought provoking. Truly a masterpiece. Unlike anything real.



This? boring. Unskilled. Lacking in artistic vision. Unoriginal and bland. Literally just real life.

Althalus dijo:

Something that is slightly more provable, (albeit less exciting) is the fact that the U.S. recently had to start a redesign their Minuteman ballistic missiles, because the engineers that originally designed and maintained them back in the 1960s had all (allegedly) died of old age and had never trained others on their knowledge for security reasons.

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also it's silica aerogel which conspicuously appeared in the "fuck yeah science" cycle with great fanfare around the same time they re-developed it.

12345 dijo:

I'm giving the youth far too much credit, aren't I?

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No you are not, its the 80 year "rule". In less pop scientific terms; the generation for which it was lived experience, it defines their individual perception of reality (those born between 1880 and 1920ish) the generation after, either too young to have it be their conscious perception of reality and after it happened (1930ish to 1970ish) are relying on the dominating narratives by those that lived it to form an opinion. For the third Generation the narrating by those that lived it loses meaning (1980ish to date)

Same as the boogie maning of Hitler stopped working for todays majority, the boogie maning of Napoleon stopped working for those born in the 1930s.

The danger for the progress of the human species, respective accidental win for the underlying ideology of nat SOCIALISM is, that with having the socialist Hitler as his socialist dictatorship painted as "right wing" for 80 years straight, you get weird phenomena like zoomers and alpha, that want to rebel with being right wing against their parents left wing leaning position, adopting ironically left wing ideology genuinely believing that the gradual difference between nat SOCIALISM and intsoc is significant, leading to the repetition of the 1930s socialist vs socialist

Garnet123 dijo:

Hitler was even a Disney Fan who had a private screening of "Snow White" arranged for himself and drew fan art of the Dwarves ...

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A Trve Chvd fellow Grimnir enjoyer. He wrote his own Book of Grudges!

On topic:

The out of Africa and one human species theory is bullshit.

It is subspecies, with speciesation happening on multiple levels.

Early monkey ancestor left Africa, evolved into blacks and either separately yellows and whites or a yellow/white common ancestor.

These interbred with denisovans and neanderthals.

Neanderthal dna is missing from africans.

So blacks split off before this happened.

This processs was further muddled by muttening backwards. There had been neanderthals found with ancient extinct sapiens subgroup dna that later merged with new sapiens.

So there was a common ancestor which mixed with asian denisovans, than gave rise to blacks, abbos, whites and yellows.

Blacks went back to Africa. Abbos did their own outback thing and bred with neanderthals.

Blackies also mixed with some ghost hominid there that isn't present in any other, not in Abbo, whitie nor slantie. They shagged some erectus or chimp I bet, I mean to stay scientific, they mixed with an unknown hominid.

Asians/Europeans bred with neanderthals either separately or they split at this point, and later some european types went back to Africa to become semitic while some asians and some few abbo-related polynesians types went to North/South America.

So we did not evolve from nignogs. Nignogs split up and went their way back to Africa. Same with Abbos, but they are equally distant but not related to each other.

The unclear factor is when yellow and white diverged from each other.

Later these of course sprouted different ethnic branches, like how italians and irish differ or like japs and seasians.

At this point we ran out of space to migrate to, so these ethnic groups didn't become full subspecies as boats and horses reduced isolation.

This does not explain Pajeets, but even I don't know what devolution made them. Likely inbreeding. Sadly it appears whites devolved into Jew and Jeet, thus we whites are not only less evolved than these two blights technically, but also sired them. And arabs too.

I am starting to understand why yellows may not like us.

big pauper dijo:

this? colorful, expressive, thought provoking. Truly a masterpiece. Unlike anything real.



This? boring. Unskilled. Lacking in artistic vision. Unoriginal and bland. Literally just real life.

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I hate these arguments about art so much. I'm holding myself back from sperging out, but I still gotta say how much I hate it.
Also, modern and contemporary art is just artist porn-brain. They try to explain it away as "Oh when you've seen so much beauty, like I have as an artist, then you crave the new and the stimulating!" It's no different than a porn addict going "Once you've seen one gangbang you've seen 'em all. I crave novelty!"

@Male Idiot Do I have this right?


And as a follow-up question, how accepted is the not OoA theory in modern academia? Has what you say become established or is what you say some heretical thing still?

Overly Serious dijo:

@Male Idiot Do I have this right?
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And as a follow-up question, how accepted is the not OoA theory in modern academia? Has what you say become established or is what you say some heretical thing still?

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Anthropology is one of the wokest branches of soft-STEM so there's no way any of them that work at a prestigious university would ever admit that niggers are a different species. It will take decades to change that dogmatic belief.

Overly Serious dijo:

@Male Idiot Do I have this right?
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And as a follow-up question, how accepted is the not OoA theory in modern academia? Has what you say become established or is what you say some heretical thing still?

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I did some digging, this is an informative video I found:
It says abbos have some ghost dna from an earlier homo migration wave after the African split.

Mostly you got it right, expect Neanderthals had earlier homo wave ancestors that later got re added to the eurasian group, and maybe abbos too.

Early americans are mostly asian, the abbo/polynesian link is an extremely weak isolated jungle tribe population, a very rare latin american thing.

I am not sure how abbos and polynesians relate. It maybe that polynesians are asians with a little bit of abbo.

This is extremely complex and I'll admit, maybe above my paygrade.

I'll try to make sense of this when I am not phoneposting.

I found a comment that says west and east africans diverged and only one has ghost dna.
Another comment proudly bosted that India also has this earlier post african wave like Abbos.
These are just comments, I got no idea if they are true or just Pajeet going "We wuz" .

Edit: West Africans have the ghost human dna from an unknown hominid.

Male Idiot dijo:

It says abbos have some ghodt dna from an earlier homo migration wave after the African split.

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In Africa, too, there's a ghost population in the genetic record.

NoReturn dijo:

In Africa, too, there's a ghost population in the genetic record.

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From what I can gather its only west Africa. So not even blacks are a single species, but there is two type of them, and eastern doesn't have it, it is more "pure" last common african ancestor.

Abbo ghost population is from an earlier out of africa wave.

Male Idiot dijo:

From what I can gather its only west Africa. So not even blacks are a single species, but there is two type of them, and eastern doesn't have it, it is more "pure" last common african ancestor.

Abbo ghost population is from an earlier out of africa wave.

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It's also fun because we know the Bantu expansion happened. We can see it across the continent genetically and even when asking other groups about their relationship with the Bantu, yet "well-meaning" academics just see brown skin and go "Ah, yes, black people."