🐱 Marvel Woke A Disaster: 'Eternals' Delayed With 'Shang-Chi' Box Office Bomb

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Kevin Feige's woke Phase 4 approach is turning out to be a disaster of epic proportions as now it is reported that if Shang-Chi bombs at the box office, which it is expected to do, that Disney will delay the release of Eternals.

The info comes from Vulture's report about how Sony is going to further delay the release of Venom 2, where the site reached out to additional studios sources to see if there would be similar delays, where it's noted that Marvel could delay the release of Eternals if Shang-Chiunderperforms, which follows Black Widow being a colossal catastrophe:

Among studio sources reached by Vulture, the short-term outlook is that autumn’s big films (such as Dune and Top Gun: Maverick) will most likely stay on their scheduled release dates — although Marvel Studio’s Eternalscould be delayed if the 24th MCU entry Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Ringsunderperforms at the box office upon its September 3 release.
Recent estimates have the Shang-Chi opening box office as the lowest debut of any MCU movie, including lower than Ant-Man's $57 million and The Incredible Hulk's $55 million, with a range of $35-55 million.


Disney losing faith in Marvel​

Similar to Black Widow, Disney seems to have lost faith in the Marvel brand, as following Disney releasing Black Widow at the same time in theaters and on Disney Plus, which has spawned a lawsuit from Scarlett Johansson, Disney announced that following a 45-day exclusive release, Shang-Chi will be made available digitally--something that has sparked controversy in regards to comments made by Disney CEO Bob Chapek and Shang-Chi star Simu Liu.

"We are not an experiment," said Liu in regards to Chapek's comments about how Shang-Chi getting an experimental release. "We are the underdog; the underestimated. We are the ceiling-breakers. We are the celebration of culture and joy that will persevere after an embattled year. We are the surprise. I’m fired the f**k up to make history on September 3rd; JOIN US."

It should be noted that, obviously, Disney was aware Black Widow was going to bomb big time which is why they released it right away on Disney Plus, as Disney makes a lot more money from Disney Plus purchases than movie theater tickets.

It also seems obvious that Disney thinks Shang-Chi will be a bomb which is why its 45-day theatrical release is considered an "experiment," and Disney apparently thinks the upcoming November release of Eternals will fail as well, hence the release date change.

When the movie stars are suing or feuding with the studio or siding with one another against the studio (Elizabeth Olsen recently came out in support of Scarlett Johansson) that shows just how bad things are.

Feige's woke MCU approach is a bust​

Feige's woke approach doesn't look to be getting any better as upcoming releases include a slate of woke content, which is where characters are changed for the sake of political correctness and/or the liberal agenda is promoted at the expense of quality story:

Shang-Chi - Simu Liu recently said the film "will change the world" and will finally give the audience an "aspirational" Asian character (though that doesn't necessarily mean the movie will be woke).

Eternals - gender-bent, race-swapped characters; regarding the story, the trailer revealed that although the entire universe was threatened by Thanos, they decided to stay out of it (makes sense, right?).

Hawkeye - Jeremy Renner replaced by Hailee Steinfeld's Kate Bishop.

Ms. Marvel - politically oppressed Muslim character (that replaced Carol Danvers in the comics).

Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness - with Marvel Comics killing Doctor Strange, a new woke MCU Doctor Strange is speculated; it's also known Feige wouldn't allow Benedict Cumberbatch in WandaVision because he's a male character (ditto for Robert Downey Jr. and The Avengers in Black Widow).

Thor: Love and Thunder - Natalie Portman becomes the Female Thor; Tessa Thompson's Valkyrie is looking for her "queen" of New Asgard.

Black Panther 2: Wakanda Forever - rumors offer Shuri will become the Black Panther and that Ironheart will be introduced in the movie who replaces Robert Downey Jr's Tony Stark in MCU. In the comics, Ironheart is a teenage girl who steals Iron Man tech and is allowed to keep the Iron Man suit, though she is a child and has no superpowers (see how the story gets sacrificed for wokeness?).

Captain Marvel 2: The Marvels - just watch the first movie, and The Marvels will feature Brie Larson ('nuff said?), Teyonah Parris as Monica Rambeau and Iman Vellani as Ms. Marvel; the director recently said the movie is about "pain and trauma."

Guardians of the Galaxy 3 - unknown how woke James Gunn will go, but he may feature a woke version of Quasar, and the comics have gone completely woke; interestingly enough, Gunn is leaving Marvel to go back to DC, so maybe Guardians 3 won't be all that woke and is the reason why Gunn is heading back to DC.

Blade - unknown, though look for something about Blade's daughter.

Deadpool 3 - Ryan Reynolds sold out his writers for two female newbs (as demanded by Feige and Marvel).

Fantastic Four - rumors offer Feige is going with a diverse version of the characters.

Captain America 4 - Chris Evans replaced by Anthony Mackie's Falcon, a character with no super powers.

Moon Knight - TBD.

She-Hulk - unknown, but likely woke as it will feature the goofy version of Mark Ruffalo's Hulk (men are bad, etc).

Armor Wars - the original comic featured Tony Stark as Iron Man getting his tech back from various villains in what is one of the best Iron Man stories, IMO; obviously, James Rhodes replaces Tony, and it is said Ironheart will be in the series, again who replaces Robert Downey Jr's Tony Stark.

Ironheart - woke like the comics (see above).

Secret Invasion - unknown.
 
Or what about all movies made in Asia? China makes a lot of movies each year that's way better than what marvel shits out nowadays. Just watch one of those if an aspirational asian character is so fucking important to you.

Yeah, but western actors and companies don't get paid for those movies. So they don't count.
 
If this really is the end of the MCU and these movies outright bomb at the box office and deal the killing blow to capeshit in cinema, then I'll be happier than a monkey in a banana orchard.

In my humble opinion, the MCU was never good and even the first Avengers movie sucked.
 
Isn't it a recurring problem that western film companies try to capture the Chinese market by making an all Chinese cast, only for it to bomb because they fail to understand aspects of Chinese lore/myth/culture and present it in a completely woke western perception?

This was the issue with live action Mulan. They removed everything that people remembered from the animated film and made Mulan a special chi user who has to hide her gender because only men can use it or something like that. Only it turns out the Mainland Chinese hated that, because to them chi is in everything and is something cultivated through hard work/training, not something gifted from birth as "uwu you are special", which is a chiefly western idea.

Fucking Kung Fu Panda understood Chinese kung fu ideas better than the people who did Mulan and Shang Chi.
All they needed was to play Amazing Cultivation Simulator to understand. Maybe even read a wuxia without a cheat pill plot point. That shit is hard. Your lineage doesn't mean shit. And in the end, you're still below a lot of other beastly folk you need the power of friendship/teamwork/specter-refined-everything to beat.

I actually rewatched the first two films recently. Good stuff. I forgot Black Jack is a passible actor.
 
Mulan was celeberated not because she was a "uwu special girl". She's celebrated because she went above and beyond to serve her country, to fulfill her familial duties and became a hero in the process.
Here’s the thing that I think people often miss about this character. She doesn’t dress up as a man and join the army to give the middle finger to the expectations and traditions of her culture, but to honor them. Let me explain.

Mulan’s father teaches her that the three most important things in life are respecting her ancestors, protecting her family, and safeguarding her family’s honor. Now, ideally, these three priorities should be in alignment. But when Fa Zhou is called up to serve in the Imperial Army, those three priorities are suddenly thrown out of balance. If Mulan lets her father go to war, she will be respecting his wishes (respecting her ancestors) and ensuring that the family’s honor is intact, but she will not be protecting her family, because her father will almost certainly die.

But, if she somehow prevents him from going, she will be protecting her family, but disrespecting her father and bringing shame on the family. Mulan dressing up as a man and joining the army in her father’s place, while seemingly staggeringly transgressive, is really the only way Mulan has of resolving this conundrum and ensuring that all three of her duties are met. This is why Mulan the character is brilliant and why Mulan the 1998 movie is brilliant. It gives us a story that is progressive and inspiring to a modern audience, but is still rooted very much in the culture and Imperial Han milieu of the heroine (or the Disneyfied version of it, at least). It gets to have its cake and eat it, too. It's very much the reason why Mulan is my favorite Disney princess: she’s not about adventure in the great wide somewhere, she’s the “get shit done” Princess. She’s not riding out there upsetting gender norms for shits and giggles, she’s doing it because she’s got a job to do and she’s going to do it well, dammit. And if it takes a couple hundred thousand Hun casualties in order to complete said job, well, you can't make an omelet without breaking any eggs. A lot of people don't get that. Some of those people got together and made a live-action remake.
Blade is the best Marvel movie and it came out in like 1997. Wesley Snipes is just too black for Marvel though so they wouldn't make his trilogy part of the MCU.
How could you forget about Blade II, which was even better than the first? But of course, it's NOT WOKE ENOUGH, so it doesn't count. Blow me, Soyvel.
 
guys, are you excited for ASIANS
ASIANS didn't exist until 2019 when the disney corporation made ASIANS
ASIANS were never in a movie before
never has there been a depiction of ASIANS in western media

IT BROKE NEW GROUND!!!!
 
If they really make Phase 4 into their current-day shitty comics, the MCU is absolutely dead.

No amount of money can polish those turds.

Iron heart is my personal favorite example of the garbage potential here. Like someone said, she literally acts like a supervillain, stealing tech (And ruining it), fucking up Stark's company (On purpose), and TAKING OVER A FUCKING COUNTRY (And ruining it).

And you're expected to cheer for this character. Because she's female and black.
 
The glaring flaw in Disney's plans for the MCU is the arrogance in believing that they can sustain interest, quality, and insane profitability until the end of time. Yes, the MCU made a ton of money, but it hit the finale. It took over a decade to get everyone invested, and then they reaped the rewards of their carefully planned movie blitz. The thing about a climax, though, it that it means the end. They titled the movie Endgame, they had to know that that was it, the big send off.

Now nobody has the energy or desire to continue with that same level of interest. You can't expect to bring people to a level of heart-attack inducing hype and hold them there for years upon years. You set yourself up for failure thinking that you can, especially when you killed or retired all your big draws as part of the climax.

The smart thing to do is to focus on a nice steady drip feed of high quality content, a few modest shows here, a movie there, with conservative goals for profitability. As the aim now should not be to make billions and break records, that won't happen and you'll waste money, the goal is to keep the IPs and connections with the audience alive. Sell some toys at Christmas, give everyone some nice reminders here and there, keep the embers going low and in control.

That way in ten years or so you can do the entire fucking thing again, essentially. But you have to let the field lay fallow between cash crops.
 
I figure a lot of Marvel's problems at the moment have to do with the lack of charismatic leads. RDJ oozed charisma whenever doing anything on screen or on press tours, so anything associated with him seemed to do well as people just plain like the guy and want to see him more. With stuff like Black Widow, we've got Scarlett Johansson who just sounds like a scold most of the time regarding politics, even complaining her own character was "hyper sexualized" in Iron Man 2, and one of the biggest stories with her movie is her complaining about Disney streaming the movie.

With nearly everyone in the phase 4 lineup, there's a problem of the actors collectively being a charisma vacuum. When Aquaman was coming out, it was a bit weird, but the youtuber Jacksepticeye interviewed Jason Mamoa. Which feels significant as the guy knew to be friendly with nearly everyone and the people behind the marketing for his movie knew well enough to set him up with opportunities to show off this friendliness. You don't seem to see that with these phase 4 Marvel actors. With Simu Liu, the Shang Chi star, I've seen nothing of him anywhere on social media nor youtube, he's seems like a non-entity. Even Brie Larson was decent enough at knowing she needed to do something to keep up an image that she did a youtube channel. It may not been a hit by any measure, but doing stuff like playing Fortnite at least showed she was trying to do something to maintain a public image. Simu on the other hand has no public image, nor do most of these new Phase 4 actors.

The new phase 4 actors come across as being a bunch of nobodies who don't even want to be known. Which seems really weird when you consider how much money Disney has for marketing. Like they can't even pay people to get these actors talked about?
 
If they really make Phase 4 into their current-day shitty comics, the MCU is absolutely dead.

No amount of money can polish those turds.

Iron heart is my personal favorite example of the garbage potential here. Like someone said, she literally acts like a supervillain, stealing tech (And ruining it), fucking up Stark's company (On purpose), and TAKING OVER A FUCKING COUNTRY (And ruining it).

And you're expected to cheer for this character. Because she's female and black.
take a misogynist male character and give him a pussy, and the SJWs will call her strong and brave

take an evil white person and make them black, and the SJWs will call them the good guys
 
The MCU would eventually fall but I guess Kevin Feige expected it would be so soon.

 
Did most of you miss that this is currently all based on a hypothetical? The article's source basically just says "yeah if <movie a> does poorly in theaters then they'll delay <movie b> and re-assess the franchise".
Isn't that just standard operating procedure? their release hesitancy is probably as based in figuring out if people will go to theaters yet than whether or not the MCU is too woke.
Like, I'm just as tired of capeshit and want this to bomb as anyone, but this article is 99% the writer wanking themselves off over some dude saying "yeah man they'll see how Shang-Li does and evaluate from there", which is practically nothing.
 
I would, Kojima, Suda, etc show that Japanese understanding of America is funny as fuck
Yeah, but those guys are charming and funny in their own way. They're auteurs, and their weirdness makes the things they create interesting. Disney just ain't that is what I'm getting at.
 
Can we talk about how much of a colossal faggot the Shang Chi actor is here?



JOIN US as we BREAK CEILINGS and OWN RETHUGLICANS with our watered down Wuxia flavored capehit! We, Hollywood, are the biggest underdogs in history with our trillions of dollars from playing dress up and raping children! Especially with all the black white supremacists assaulting asians because they hate the glorious, enlightened CCP!
That was a reply to Disney calling it an experiment, dude didn't read what was really said and jumped the gun posting that.

Disney called it an experiment, because it's the first movie, to come out at cinemas and not be on disney+ premier access the same day since covid started. and it's the first MCU and Disney movie that will have a 45-day cinema window.

I mean in that sense it really is an experiment.
 
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