COVID Conspiracy Theorists and other idiots - This is not a political thunderdome or gay slapfight thread.

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CheezzyMach dijo:
I used to think people were exaggerating Trump being one of the worst US presidents but in the course of 5 years he's managed to turn one of our major political parties into a proudly ignorant and illiterate death cult
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He took them in a direction they've been flirting with since W.

Candidate Bush had an idealistic desire to end all wars. To this day, the best defense people can come up with is, well, Cheney was more impactful after 9/11, Bush had a "domestic agenda"; which is proven false. A family friend said he was planning to invade Iraq well before the election.

Then they sputter something about Bush attending Yale and flying supersonic jets, bet you can't do that!
 
CheezzyMach dijo:
Exhibit B.
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wilfully ignorant against what? Vaccines work, there's no doubt about it. We've wiped out smallpox, defeated tb and polio in the west.

However, this vaccine has issues, issues that are all too slowly coming to the forefront. The discussion of whether it works or not is irrelevant to my point. So skip the snarky quips and respond to the point; fewer people have had the vaccine than SP, TB or MMR yet the side effects of the covid vaccine are substantial. This isn't one make of vaccine, or one country, its every one of them.

If you think what I've said is political, emotional, non sensical or any other tag you want to attach to it, then I wonder about your ability to separate your own emotions and world view.
 
HymanHive dijo:
wilfully ignorant against what? Vaccines work, there's no doubt about it. We've wiped out smallpox, defeated tb and polio in the west.

However, this vaccine has issues, issues that are all too slowly coming to the forefront. The discussion of whether it works or not is irrelevant to my point. So skip the snarky quips and respond to the point; fewer people have had the vaccine than SP, TB or MMR yet the side effects of the covid vaccine are substantial. This isn't one make of vaccine, or one country, its every one of them.

If you think what I've said is political, emotional, non sensical or any other tag you want to attach to it, then I wonder about your ability to separate your own emotions and world view.
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What issues would those be? Be specific, not "some guy on A&H said that his dad died after taking it"
 
HymanHive dijo:
wilfully ignorant against what? Vaccines work, there's no doubt about it. We've wiped out smallpox, defeated tb and polio in the west.

However, this vaccine has issues, issues that are all too slowly coming to the forefront. The discussion of whether it works or not is irrelevant to my point. So skip the snarky quips and respond to the point; fewer people have had the vaccine than SP, TB or MMR yet the side effects of the covid vaccine are substantial. This isn't one make of vaccine, or one country, its every one of them.

If you think what I've said is political, emotional, non sensical or any other tag you want to attach to it, then I wonder about your ability to separate your own emotions and world view.
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Fuck off with this chink bullshit.
 
Hollywood Hulk Hogan dijo:
What issues would those be? Be specific, not "some guy on A&H said that his dad died after taking it"
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If I knew the issues and the public knew the full range of issues, I would have no problem. However, we're seeing slow burns and slow drips of information regarding heart inflammation from some vaccines. Yet I don't see health warnings on the vaccines as obvious as those on alcohol or cigarettes.

Not to power level but before being offered the anthrax vaccine, there was an hour tutorial/lecture on side effects, how it works, what to expect etc.

Yet I see none of this from any government in the west (I can't speak Cyrillic, Arabic or mandarin so I can't comment on those nations). For an untested vaccine given to hundreds of millions, if not billions of people.

Do you accept, or think that it is appropriate or acceptable that any health issues are not fully disclosed and any questioning of supposed health issues are labelled with 'conspiracy theoriest' or 'alt right', without full investigation?

AnOminous dijo:
Fuck off with this chink bullshit.
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Good chat. Well worth discussing this subject with such open minded people.

Wait, aren't the right wing Nazis meant to be the closed minded emotional bastards?

That my comment is met with a dismissive accusation and a racist comment in regards to my supposed nationality, should tell anyone with critical thinking skills that you are unable to talk logically about this.
 
HymanHive dijo:
Good chat. Well worth discussing this subject with such open minded people.

Wait, aren't the right wing Nazis meant to be the closed minded emotional bastards?

That my comment is met with a dismissive accusation and a racist comment in regards to my supposed nationality, should tell anyone with critical thinking skills that you are unable to talk logically about this.
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Ching chong wing wong ying yong. Chink chink chink. Slanty-eyed bastard.
 
HymanHive dijo:
If I knew the issues and the public knew the full range of issues, I would have no problem. However, we're seeing slow burns and slow drips of information regarding heart inflammation from some vaccines. Yet I don't see health warnings on the vaccines as obvious as those on alcohol or cigarettes.

Not to power level but before being offered the anthrax vaccine, there was an hour tutorial/lecture on side effects, how it works, what to expect etc.

Yet I see none of this from any government in the west (I can't speak Cyrillic, Arabic or mandarin so I can't comment on those nations). For an untested vaccine given to hundreds of millions, if not billions of people.

Do you accept, or think that it is appropriate or acceptable that any health issues are not fully disclosed and any questioning of supposed health issues are labelled with 'conspiracy theoriest' or 'alt right', without full investigation?
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Which issues have come up that you're concerned about?

EDIT: Since you didn't even answer my question and just neg-rated me because you're upset, I will take it you were just concern trolling
 
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If I see the phrase "gold standard" one more time, I am going to smash all of my devices and pull out the fixtures like Chuck McGill.

Those same woo-peddlers think AIDS is a hoax perpetrated by drug companies.
 
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I think "spike protein" is trending because it has the word spike in it. Like how they reacted to "gene therapy" by insisting it "changes your DNA."

Here's what I learned this morning: the spike protein "nests inside the placenta" which "can cause all sorts of problems". Children are easy weapons for propaganda, but boomers are notoriously unsentimental when it comes to killing their kids, so we have to scare the pants off them, too. The spike protein "travels all over the body"! It causes "enlarged hearts"!

If I were a legit vaccine skeptic, I'd be pissed. This must be how Christians feel when Olsteen preaches that God serves man.
 
CheezzyMach dijo:
I used to think people were exaggerating Trump being one of the worst US presidents but in the course of 5 years he's managed to turn one of our major political parties into a proudly ignorant and illiterate death cult that only exists to own the libs.

Impressive and infuriating.
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It is ironic or willfully ignorant that you call Trump a leader of a "death Cult" when he was the first president in 70 (Seventy) years to not start any conflicts around the world...AND mostly keep his campaign promise to get all troops out of Afghanistan (Unlike St. Obummer) At least Trump managed to dramatically reduce the number of troops in Afghanistan (and some spots in the middle east.

I could go on how your Trump Derangement Syndrome has you so caught up in your own frail ego that you cannot see straight..but.. you have a severe case of TDS. Please get it looked at.
 
Kornula dijo:
It is ironic or willfully ignorant that you call Trump a leader of a "death Cult" when he was the first president in 70 (Seventy) years to not start any conflicts around the world.
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He broke President Drone's record, including the one which took out Iran's no. 2 guy. Get outta here with those numbers.

Obama was pivoting toward Iran, since it's a natural hegemon when compared to Iraq. But his work fell "under review" by the Republican administration. Trump only cares about settling scores, so of course he didn't object. He even tore up the lightbulb ban, FFS.
 
Kornula dijo:
It is ironic or willfully ignorant that you call Trump a leader of a "death Cult" when he was the first president in 70 (Seventy) years to not start any conflicts around the world...AND mostly keep his campaign promise to get all troops out of Afghanistan (Unlike St. Obummer) At least Trump managed to dramatically reduce the number of troops in Afghanistan (and some spots in the middle east.

I could go on how your Trump Derangement Syndrome has you so caught up in your own frail ego that you cannot see straight..but.. you have a severe case of TDS. Please get it looked at.
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Trump almost got us into a war with Iran but thankfully Iran decided to be the more levelheaded ones. Of course, if we had gone to war with them under Trump, you and your fellow elderly man fetishists would be trumpeting how it was a "based" war or something equally autistic

He also upped the drone strikes but he also had the military stop reporting them so that they could tell his brainwashed cult that they were no longer doing it and was "peaceful"
 
Hollywood Hulk Hogan dijo:
He also upped the drone strikes but he also had the military stop reporting them so that they could tell his brainwashed cult that they were no longer doing it and was "peaceful"
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@Kornula has a point, though: the people don't want war, and every warhawk ran as a peacenik, from Woodrow Wilson to the modern day.

It's like that scene in Nixon where he all but admits he can't end the war, even if he cared to.
 
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JamesFargo dijo:
@Kornula has a point, though: the people don't want war, and every warhawk President ran as a peacenik, from FDR to to the modern day. It's like that scene in Nixon where he all admits that he can't end the war, even if he cared to.
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The thing @Kornula cant seem to understand is that this isn’t for want of trying. He was basically talked down by the joint chiefs away from outright invading Iran. Also, amusing as it was, he openly and willingly taunted the leader of the cult of personality that is North Korea, goading him into a first strike. The fact that they didn’t do this shows how fucking nuts it is that fucking NORTH KOREA were the ones to walk back from the precipice of war.

Kornula, to suggest that Trump was a president of peace is to be utterly ignorant, willfully or otherwise.
 
Fwiffo dijo:
The thing @Kornula cant seem to understand is that this isn’t for want of trying
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The Trump campaign gave us "Kick their ass & take their gas!" Bill Kristol had an erection which could etch diamonds. Meanwhile he's up on the stage weeping over our "wounded warriors."

This is textbook. Nixon's acceptance speech was loaded with this kind of double-speak.
 
Kornula dijo:
It is ironic or willfully ignorant that you call Trump a leader of a "death Cult" when he was the first president in 70 (Seventy) years to not start any conflicts around the world...AND mostly keep his campaign promise to get all troops out of Afghanistan (Unlike St. Obummer) At least Trump managed to dramatically reduce the number of troops in Afghanistan (and some spots in the middle east.

I could go on how your Trump Derangement Syndrome has you so caught up in your own frail ego that you cannot see straight..but.. you have a severe case of TDS. Please get it looked at.
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How the fuck does that have anything to do with him turning the GOP into an anti science deathcult that's proud of it's own ignorance and refusal to learn?

But by all means ignore the surging covid cases in the unvaccinated and LA reinstating a mask mandate to protect your fellow anti-vax retards from their own idiocy so you can continue to defend your orange daddy surrogate.

And you have the nerve to insult Black people's intelligence.

Dumbass.
 
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