Why does it seem so many young men can't accept themselves and accept rejection these days?

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This has birthed all these ''black pill'' ''red pill'' ''whatever pill'' subcultures. You guys know what I'm talking about with these huge subcultures of people who complain about being romantically rejected and about their looks. It used to be a notoriously female thing to concentrate on physical flaws but I've never seen so many men getting into this themselves.

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What has caused this? years back average looking or unattractive men didn't really care about their looks and they didn't have this type of defeatist mentality about it either when it came to opposite sex rejection.
 
Boys are raised like little girls. Its not surprising they've started acting like them.

Edit: Young men need strong masculine role models and a healthy introduction into becoming a man. A lot of the incel, doomer, trad stuff is young guys desperately grabbing out at what they think will make them a man.
 
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Cold approaching and talking to women has been something men struggled with and were shy about for a long time. Unless natural pussy slayer.

Just back in the day there wasn't internet so you had to socialize more in the meatspace, leading to more opportunities to make male-female friendships which lead to relationships.
 
Men didn't used to care about looks because they were self sufficient, made money and were considered providers.

Now it's current year and nobody has any money. Just rainbow flags and hearts everywhere.
 
Women being the majority in university, and the prevalence of feminists, liberal arts majors, Tumblrinas, and so on. They're hostile by default to guys and that leads to insecurities in which guys look inwardly where most of time the girl would only be slightly nicer to giga-chad.

I'm good looking and it was unpleasant for me, but I had a step back after talking to normal guys to realize that I did really well in comparison, I talked to quite a few giga-chad type guys and they had roughly the same experience as I did.
 
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What has caused this? years back average looking or unattractive men didn't really care about their looks and they didn't have this type of defeatist mentality about it either when it came to opposite sex rejection.
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Dont know where your at, don't care. My perspective is the US.

Lot of guys are raised by single mothers nowadays. Their main and sometimes only source of eldar adive on relationships is from a woman's perspective. There's been a general feminization of society as women have gone from the home and into the workforce and politics on a large scale. Which has most definitely shaped how the sexes interact within themselves and to each other. And finally there's the fact that places now exist for such men to exchange information and views on the topic. Especially without outside input. All these guys are doing is bitching like the average woman does.

TLDR: Men have become more like women.
 
Lots of people feel like they don't have to "just accept" anything these days. Even the idea of coming to terms with a limitation on our wills is completely intolerable so people lash out at nature itself. It's a mix of entitlement, sloppy thinking and yes, women being involved in formative stages in boys' lives that they have no business meddling in.
 
It's not about not being able to take A rejection. But when you're rejected over and over, for years and years, without a single success and without understanding why, well... you know what they say about the definition of insanity? Doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result?

Suddenly, doing something weird and drastic doesn't seem so crazy in comparison.
 
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years back average looking or unattractive men didn't really care about their looks and they didn't have this type of defeatist mentality about it either when it came to opposite sex rejection.
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That's not true.
It's just that previous generations didn't have social media to share their fears and worries with the world.
They kept it to themselves and were coping with depression alone.
 
American cinema and television has been at the forefront of telling boys and young men that if they keep pestering women, eventually they'll accept their offer for a date, by telling them that it's 'romantic'.
 
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American cinema and television has been at the forefront of telling boys and young men that if they keep pestering women, eventually they'll accept their offer for a date, by telling them that it's 'romantic'.
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This is a really good point too. MKULTRA never ended, it's just broadcast through television shows and movies. Monkey see monkey do.
 
I'm confused by this thread. Is it about not accepting rejection? Is it about black pill and red pill, which are metaphors for accepting rejection and living with it (black) or taking measures to reduce it (red)? Is it about being insecure over one's looks, which can happen to even the most beautiful and successful people, pilled or unpilled in any given color? Is it about how unattractive men and their purported character flaws? Is it about the mistaken belief that men never cared about physical imperfections before now, a notion that one would dismiss after even a cursory glance at historical art, film, or advertisements? That first post is a real farrago.
 
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This has birthed all these ''black pill'' ''red pill'' ''whatever pill'' subcultures. You guys know what I'm talking about with these huge subcultures of people who complain about being romantically rejected and about their looks. It used to be a notoriously female thing to concentrate on physical flaws but I've never seen so many men getting into this themselves.

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What has caused this? years back average looking or unattractive men didn't really care about their looks and they didn't have this type of defeatist mentality about it either when it came to opposite sex rejection.
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There's a lot to say about this (as in, I had a lot written, and then I screwed up and now I don't have any of that for the time being), but your prompt is poorly premised.
 
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