💰 Grifter StoneToss (allegedly, formerly Red Panels)

My theory is as a counter reaction to BLM and their stance on police.

Although, it IS funny seeing those same people who bootlick police now oppose them when they don't do what they want.
And the same people literally saying ACAB and pro rioting using the death of a police officer during a riot as proof of right wingers being dangerous.

It's all reactionary.
 
My theory is as a counter reaction to BLM and their stance on police.

Although, it IS funny seeing those same people who bootlick police now oppose them when they don't do what they want.
Oh it is reactionary, but I'm pretty sure the underlying structure of this is rooted in the right to self defense.

I'd take a wild guess there is a significant crossover between people who've watched the bodycam footage riots were justified in the name of, and people who got really supportive really quick.

After all, if the cops aren't allowed to shoot people in legit self defense...how in the fuck is the average person supposed to do so? The laws of self defense are supposed to apply equally, and the riots showed a lot of people that they aren't.

Perhaps an awkward reaction in light of more recent events, but between the riots showing police ordered to stand down and not protect the community from the riots, and the obvious agenda of those doing the rioting (you are not allowed to defend yourself from us or our sacred cows), I'd argue it is an understandable one.
 
Oh it is reactionary, but I'm pretty sure the underlying structure of this is rooted in the right to self defense.

I'd take a wild guess there is a significant crossover between people who've watched the bodycam footage riots were justified in the name of, and people who got really supportive really quick.

After all, if the cops aren't allowed to shoot people in legit self defense...how in the fuck is the average person supposed to do so? The laws of self defense are supposed to apply equally, and the riots showed a lot of people that they aren't.

Perhaps an awkward reaction in light of more recent events, but between the riots showing police ordered to stand down and not protect the community from the riots, and the obvious agenda of those doing the rioting (you are not allowed to defend yourself from us or our sacred cows), I'd argue it is an understandable one.
This hits the nail on the head. Unfortunately as we've seen over the past seven months, self-defense doesn't matter anymore because cucked DA's will still charge you with the crime even when the dead are on video beating your skull into the ground.

At this point standards and ethics have gone out the window. People on the right need to start understanding that.
 
I’d say he’s more like XKCD for righties.
StoneToss is actually funny though.
Edit: To expand on it, XKCD isn't funny and is really only occasionally "witty" when it makes a good observation on a University course you once did. Even then it's 1 in every 50 strips that have those observations and the rest are unfunny jokes (of the LOL RANDOM variety), I Fucking Love Science (that's almost universally about scales getting dramatically big) and the author's autism projects.
And looking at it now, after like 5 years, it has massive walls of text to rival leftist memes.
 
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Libertarians are pretty consistent on still needing courts, military, and police; they aren't anarchists.
Where Libertarians struggle is the fact that to properly assess the current state you need to admit that Mexicans and Blacks are the main groups causing problems, and you can't just keep saying that Liberals are Communists and Communists are the REAL Nazis.
They know completely removing the police will not solve anything - both in regards to the recent insanity, but also the high crime rates in certain areas - but they don't want to appear racist or fascist. This is where their ideology breaks down and they just ignore it whenever possible.
That's not actually the problem with libertarianism. If everything was the fault of blacks/Mexicans then libertarianism would work fine in Iceland or Estonia or even Argentina, but it doesn't because completely unregulated corporations fall foul of the tragedy of the commons.

Fishing quotas are a great example. The North Atlantic cod fishery was fished to near-extinction and collapsed. The Canadian government stepped in and limited fishing so cod didn't literally go extinct, and eventually numbers started to recover. Without state authority, the environment just gets completely destroyed for short term profit. Teddy Roosevelt knew this when he founded the national parks back in the day.
 
That's not actually the problem with libertarianism. If everything was the fault of blacks/Mexicans then libertarianism would work fine in Iceland or Estonia or even Argentina, but it doesn't because completely unregulated corporations fall foul of the tragedy of the commons.

Fishing quotas are a great example. The North Atlantic cod fishery was fished to near-extinction and collapsed. The Canadian government stepped in and limited fishing so cod didn't literally go extinct, and eventually numbers started to recover. Without state authority, the environment just gets completely destroyed for short term profit. Teddy Roosevelt knew this when he founded the national parks back in the day.
That's right; I wasn't trying to say every problem about Libertarianism, I was just talking in regards police. We can make a whole thread on modern libertarian shortsightedness and why it's current form seems to just be the right to say nigger, do drugs, and argue that 14 is pretty much 16 anyway.
 
That's right; I wasn't trying to say every problem about Libertarianism, I was just talking in regards police. We can make a whole thread on modern libertarian shortsightedness and why it's current form seems to just be the right to say nigger, do drugs, and argue that 14 is pretty much 16 anyway.
While I don't want this thread to go off topic, one of the main reasons that happened is that the USA has a rigid 2 party system which means that other parties don't really have a chance, so the libertarian party doesn't really try to go mainstream and ends up proposing all kinds of crazy nonsense (though I don't believe they want to remove age of consent laws). The kind of people who get attracted to a fringe party that won't win are often freaks and losers, similar to those who support fringe communist parties.
 
While I don't want this thread to go off topic, one of the main reasons that happened is that the USA has a rigid 2 party system which means that other parties don't really have a chance, so the libertarian party doesn't really try to go mainstream and ends up proposing all kinds of crazy nonsense (though I don't believe they want to remove age of consent laws). The kind of people who get attracted to a fringe party that won't win are often freaks and losers, similar to those who support fringe communist parties.
Most European countries don't have the anglo two party system, yet they have a similar problem. Take the Netherlands, last election had a giant upset, with a very young party started 2015/2016 becoming the biggest (15ish % of vote).

Only it was an election for the law ratifying part (kinda like senate).

But now that the EU saw them (and another socialist anti-EU party ad a threat), both mostly fell apart on the very same day and I'll be surprised if they get 3% of the vote.

They aren't libertarians, but my point is that although the system technically allows it, the prospects of success are barely better when the system allows for it.

And that's some relatively unimportant and tiny country. You see similar movements across Europe. Just like US people were generally fed up with establishment politics. The sitting powers were getting their shit pushed in. Incredible number of protests.

But then Covid was seized as an excuse to strike back at people. No you can only protest these causes. Those causes are a health risk. They don't say it as openly of course.

This week we'll start having a curfew and can't go out of our houses after 8 in the evening until 5 in the morning.

The US would have a chance at third party success if a hugely rich and charismatic person worked at it. Would probably take about 12 years, one election to make a splash, the second to show they can draw some votes and affect things and the third to actually win a couple of states.

The biggest hurdle is not the rules, though they exist. The biggest hurdle is that the system does not like interlopers (like Trump) and is willing to use the full force of media and lie everyday until they're rid of you.
 
Libertarians being cranks and new parties struggling to break through are different issues, though they can be related. For an example of a new party that did get into government in Europe, Italy's 5 star movement was one, having been involved in several ruling coalitions. The issue is that even if the establishment weren't defending their interests against new parties in the way they do, a party that mostly attracts weirdos and cranks, like the US libertarians, won't find the necessary appeal to get big unless it moderates its platform a lot. Calling the post office communism is not a viable position for public appeal. The last time anyone really got anywhere on a third party ticket was Ross Perot, who of course had enough wealth to run his campaign. It would take someone else pouring in a load of money to do the same again.
 
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Seems like a strip that should've been held until next week. The punchline of "But everything is still screwed up!" works better when Joe's presidency is longer than 24 hours.
The king is dead. Long live the king.
I mean, Antifa's already rioted in Portland, against Biden and attacking the DNC headquarters. I think they got the 'Normal' dial to the wrong August.
 
I mean, Antifa's already rioted in Portland, against Biden and attacking the DNC headquarters. I think they got the 'Normal' dial to the wrong August.
I said a while ago that much of the worst Biden derangement syndrome will be from the far left. The right already had their tard rage outburst before the inauguration.
 
I said a while ago that much of the worst Biden derangement syndrome will be from the far left. The right already had their tard rage outburst before the inauguration.
I wouldn't be surprised. They are even more deranged than Q followers, so it makes sense they'll be more deranged about politicians as well.
 
Seems like a strip that should've been held until next week. The punchline of "But everything is still screwed up!" works better when Joe's presidency is longer than 24 hours.
The king is dead. Long live the king.
I don't think he means the punchline of 'but everything is still screwep up' but rather references the normalcy of US intervention in other countries and that he believes it islikely that with Biden the US will again become involved in an increasingly military role in foreign countries
 
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