🪦 Deceased Ashley Isaacs / Hamtaro-chan - The Lich Queen; Might Have Fallen Victim to Turn Undead

[Kosher Salt]

Any medical Kiwis around? How do you address a patient like Ashley? Do you just ignore the obvious and just address the symptoms? Or is there an attempt to refer them into therapy to actually try and help them recover?

I'd imagine you have a laugh at the prankster wheeling a Halloween decoration into your office and then jump about 3 feet into the air when it blinks at you.

 

[White Devil]

Usually at a BMI of 11ish patients lose bladder control and basically pee all over themselves all the time because the muscles that control that just aren’t there anymore. Although, she is a spoopy anomaly so I wouldn’t be too surprised if the Laws of the Human Body don’t apply to her. I’m just so curious, what’s her blood pressure? Her heart rate? It would be so interesting to have a patient in her condition. We all know she doesn’t see doctors though
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Bonus pic from when she got a tattoo

She looks like ET in a wig.

 

[Tasty Tatty]

I guess doctors would send her back to the morgue and think any movement is just them hallucinating bc lack of sleep.

 

[Dovahshit]

Any medical Kiwis around? How do you address a patient like Ashley? Do you just ignore the obvious and just address the symptoms? Or is there an attempt to refer them into therapy to actually try and help them recover?

you dont.
you will be naruto-running out of your office before it can blink

from what i know, you get horrible constipation , so she will be probably on lax/enema dependant,
and also, there was on one of the old ashley boards an autopsy anon who basically said, that spoops like ashley are literally full of shit at time.
like fuller than the inflated ego of onision.
so she probably lets out tiny poops every now and then and in between suffers from horrible constipation.

edit: found it


have fun reading.
and this from a spoop who was anorexic for 7 years.
ashley is double that, as she started as early at the ripe age of 14 i believe

 

[Kosher Dill]

I really wonder why they bothered doing an autopsy. Why did they think that person died?

 

[SweatPee]

I really wonder why they bothered doing an autopsy. Why did they think that person died?

There are tons of reasons a death could be considered suspicious. My guess here would be they needed to determine if it was suicide or not.

 

[Tasty Tatty]

I really wonder why they bothered doing an autopsy. Why did they think that person died?

They need the specific cause of death and it's not anorexia itself what kills you, but how your body fails because of it.

Same argument we've seen a lot through covid pandemic. "He didn't die of covid, he died because his heart failed!". No shit, what pushed it to fail?

Once Ashley dies, it won't say "anorexia", but we know what caused her body to fail.

 

[RobertPaulson]

Any medical Kiwis around? How do you address a patient like Ashley? Do you just ignore the obvious and just address the symptoms? Or is there an attempt to refer them into therapy to actually try and help them recover?

It's EXTREMELY difficult to treat patients like Ashley because the level of denial of their own situation is off the charts. They are usually extremely non compliant and argumentative when presented with any information that points to their disorder and the health implications caused by it. You can show them lab reports and cardiac imaging (if they even get it done) and they will accuse you of exaggerating and change doctors.

Another pretty common thing with ED patients is demands for enteral feeding tubes, diuretics, and laxatives. They don't want the feeding tube to eat, they want it because it makes it VERY easy to purge because they then have direct access to their stomach contents. This misuse causes infections and they can get really really bad to the point of possibly being fatal because they just cannot heal.

Recommending ED treatment is pointless and will cause the patient to switch doctors so most providers don't press too hard (or at all) for fear of the patient not receiving the little bit of care that they WILL accept. It's extremely sad.

 

[Ducky!]

ny medical Kiwis around? How do you address a patient like Ashley? Do you just ignore the obvious and just address the symptoms? Or is there an attempt to refer them into therapy to actually try and help them recover?

The physician will start by asking why they came in and address the issue by saying, “your weight is a bit low” and then waiting for their response. Usually the patient will say they have an eating disorder (because it’s obvious) and then the physician asks if they are seeing anybody about it. If they claim to be fine, a psych referral will be written. Although you can’t MAKE any adult seek treatment.

Once Ashley dies, it won't say "anorexia", but we know what caused her body to fail.

The death certificate will say “organ failure related to previous health complications” (at least where I am)

You can show them lab reports and cardiac imaging (if they even get it done) and they will accuse you of exaggerating and change doctors.

Part of the illness of eating disorders is denial. And the worse you get, the harder it is to think rationally and process information so the patient often truly believes they are fine and can lose a bit more

 

[BOONES]

I bet if you put her infront of one of those miniature fans she'd blow away in the wind.

 

[stuffandthings]

It's EXTREMELY difficult to treat patients like Ashley because the level of denial of their own situation is off the charts. They are usually extremely non compliant and argumentative when presented with any information that points to their disorder and the health implications caused by it.

Except that I don't think Ashley is in denial about her situation. She knows that this will kill her. She's not doing this because she thinks she's fat, or because she thinks it looks attractive to anyone. She's doing it because she decided that being the thinnest thing alive is going to be her superlative mark on the world, because it is a way to punish her mother, and have power over others, and because she gets off on edging oblivion. It's the reason I don't pity her as much as I pity someone like Eugenia.

 

[Carlos the Scientist]

you dont.
you will be naruto-running out of your office before it can blink


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have fun reading.
and this from a spoop who was anorexic for 7 years.
ashley is double that, as she started as early at the ripe age of 14 i believe

The external cartoid artery was visible on the neck. If they fell down wrong it could be easily severed just like the visible femoral artery. In normal people you have inches of fat and muscle protecting that shit.

Apologies if this has already been discussed in the thread, but this is a terrifying sentence. Existing like this must be pure agony, even if she was the sole cause of that.

 

[Mary Tyler Meltdown]

Except that I don't think Ashley is in denial about her situation. She knows that this will kill her. She's not doing this because she thinks she's fat, or because she thinks it looks attractive to anyone. She's doing it because she decided that being the thinnest thing alive is going to be her superlative mark on the world, because it is a way to punish her mother, and have power over others, and because she gets off on edging oblivion. It's the reason I don't pity her as much as I pity someone like Eugenia.

Eugenia knows she is hideously thin and she shows it off in every video with a smile. She's not to be pitied any more than Ashley when it comes to the ED front.

Just because she's nice doesnt mean she isn't loving every minute of being spooky skelly as much as Ashley is.

 

[ServiceChicken]

you dont.
you will be naruto-running out of your office before it can blink


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have fun reading.
and this from a spoop who was anorexic for 7 years.
ashley is double that, as she started as early at the ripe age of 14 i believe

This was written by somebody who has never dissected an actual body. Kudos for their imagination and sensationalism in inventing this imagery, but big fail on remotely resembling reality.

 

[AnOminous]

This was written by somebody who has never dissected an actual body. Kudos for their imagination and sensationalism in inventing this imagery, but big fail on remotely resembling reality.

What are the specific obviously wrong things? It seemed somewhat questionable to me but I have no knowledge that would allow me to make a judgment on my own about stories like this.

 

[ServiceChicken]

What are the specific obviously wrong things? It seemed somewhat questionable to me but I have no knowledge that would allow me to make a judgment on my own about stories like this.

briefly, because I’m on mobile...
1) the intestines being friable and disintegrating when touched — this only happens in cases of lethal radiation exposure, decomposition, or advanced cancerous lesions.

2) pools of liquid fat do not form in morbidly obese people. It’s just layers and layers of fat tissue, not liquid oil sloshing around inside.

3) spine protruding through the anterior surface of the stomach — your spine is quite smooth on the side that faces your stomach, and even in severe anorexia, does not poke out through your stomach. The geometry of your body between the pelvis and rib cage make this essentially impossible to achieve.

 

[Raging Capybara]

What are the specific obviously wrong things? It seemed somewhat questionable to me but I have no knowledge that would allow me to make a judgment on my own about stories like this.

A doctor writing "would of".

 

[Treasure Champs]

briefly, because I’m on mobile...
1) the intestines being friable and disintegrating when touched — this only happens in cases of lethal radiation exposure, decomposition, or advanced cancerous lesions.

2) pools of liquid fat do not form in morbidly obese people. It’s just layers and layers of fat tissue, not liquid oil sloshing around inside.

3) spine protruding through the anterior surface of the stomach — your spine is quite smooth on the side that faces your stomach, and even in severe anorexia, does not poke out through your stomach. The geometry of your body between the pelvis and rib cage make this essentially impossible to achieve.

Doesn't @cuddle striker dissect dead people? No offense, Chicken, but I'm gonna ask for a second opinion on this one. Cuddles, how easily do anorexic intestines come apart?

 

[heavycream]

Yeah, that account of autopsy is certainly fake. It makes no sense for the temporal muscles to waste away and yet the deceased was clearly living semi-independently before arriving at the coroner's. Pretty much every other muscle in the body would have gone first and they would have had to have been bedridden in a hospital to survive long enough in that kind of state with no functioning muscle, in which case, there would probably be no reason for having to do an autopsy. The same goes for the idea that their brain was in a semi-decomposed, mostly liquid state. It just doesn't fit with the narrative here.
Of course, the anterior surface of the spine poking out the stomach has already been discussed, but the prospect that the person's heart and stomach somehow moved to either side is also impossible.

 

[Red Mask]

I want to feel sorry for her, but after all the shit I've read about her, I just can't.

I've known cases of mentally ill people who are very aware that they're sick and that they are hurting their families and friends and they don't give a shit, not because their diseases make them like this but because they enjoy being sick. For them, the benefits of their illnesses, even if less than the negative, are enough to keep acting like brats who make everybody around live in absolute fear and despair because they haven't stopped loving them. And they do know well they can try to get better and probably get better for real, but they aren't likely to even try. There is really nothing to win for them if they improve their lives because people won't give them the attention they demand.

Sure, Ashley probably lives in constant pain and she's certain she's gonna [beep] at any moment, but for her, the idea of knowing we're talking about her and that there are people staring at her and saying "poor girl" is worth all of it. She enjoys making others feel awkward, bullying others, and shit. She's just a mean bitch.

You know, maybe we should say the D-word often so she can keep living on until she's 50 and suffering all those year she's still left.

Such people are basically abusers and would likely remain abusive even if they do get “better” because it’s based on a belief system unrelated to mental illness/PDs. They have to choose not to be abusive and most just don’t want to do that. At least that’s how I see it.

As for her, well, her pain will be torture and torture will be her life. I wish it to be long. I just feel for those trapped by her for whatever reason.