2020 U.S. Presidential Election - Took place November 3, 2020. Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden assumed office January 20, 2021.

[Salubrious]

Bernie Sanders losing in the primaries twice should be proof enough that the youth vote and social media aren't that important. I'm not saying that they don't matter at all, but they definitely will not carry you to victory.

 

[Harvey Danger]

It's not big enough to win with, but certainly big enough to lose without.

But never let it be said that I can't acknowledge the good in others. When they say Bernie or Bust, they really mean it. That kind of truth in advertising is rare these days, so I have to give them credit.

I'm going to double down on my pre-riots prediction that the % of Bernie voters who goes to Biden will be the same % that went to Hillary (about 75%).

Actually, I think he'll pick up even more. Bernie voters in 2016 thought of themselves as anti-establishment, and were willing to give Trump a try (getting him 12%). Bernie voters in 2020 were cucks supporting a turncoat candidate, and already hated Trump. Voting for Biden is easier for them than it would've been voting for Hillary.

I just hope the exit polling covers the same question this year. It was more relevant to be asked in 2016 when the Dems only had 2 major candidates, instead of the 22 person shitshow this year.

 

[Michael Jacks0n]

Bernie Sanders losing in the primaries twice should be proof enough that the youth vote and social media aren't that important. I'm not saying that they don't matter at all, but they definitely will not carry you to victory.

That's actually a pretty good way to look at it. Just because the vocal minority with preferred pronouns, 100k+ Twitter followers, and a rose emoji in their handles can tweet the most inane garbage about muh Feel the Bern, muh free college, it doesn't mean they'll hold a kettle to the staggering amount of old farts who vote in massive numbers...especially given this year's two candidates.

 

[XYZpdq]

Estimates seem to be putting the crowd at Trump's Sanford rally in the thousands.

 

[Salubrious]

Estimates seem to be putting the crowd at Trump's Sanford rally in the thousands.

Beanie Man just put out a video that basically said that Trump loving Republicans aren't afraid of COVID-19, but the Democratic politicians and media have fear mongered so hard that regular Democratic voters are afraid to leave their houses.

 

[Someone Awful]

Now that the live stream is finished, here it is. The preliminary results for the Pennsylvania poll. Final results will be out tomorrow.

I'll reply to this post when I watch the whole thing.

 

[GuntPunt]

Now that the live stream is finished, here it is. The preliminary results for the Pennsylvania poll. Final results will be out tomorrow.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=o-vt-WCcW38
I'll reply to this post when I watch the whole thing.

Interesting thing with Barnes and the Norweigen vote.

He says he is looking at ND and SD because they have a large Norweigen population, but have no other election going on like a competitive Senate seat to skew results. The results should be more organic as a result. He sees a monsterous lead in Republican early voting showing that the Norweigen vote is going hard, especially in ND, for Trump which has large ramifications for north MN and western WI and east IA.

Barnes also thinks Biden is retarded to think "MI and WI are mine, just gotta defend MN and PA due to my fracking positions!" These states historically vote together and have close margins together. They only split with an anti-war dominated vote, which in this case would benefit Trump. For him to say 2 are safe blue is Hillary tier "I don't need to visit Wisconsin" type of error.

 

[MrJokerRager]

Does anyone have thoughts on this "MAGAnomics" livestream. It reminds me of the whole Reganomics talking point which has a negative connotation in my mind.

 

[CrippleThreat]

Interesting thing with Barnes and the Norweigen vote.

He says he is looking at ND and SD because they have a large Norweigen population, but have no other election going on like a competitive Senate seat to skew results. The results should be more organic as a result. He sees a monsterous lead in Republican early voting showing that the Norweigen vote is going hard, especially in ND, for Trump which has large ramifications for north MN and western WI and east IA.

Barnes also thinks Biden is retarded to think "MI and WI are mine, just gotta defend MN and PA due to my fracking positions!" These states historically vote together and have close margins together. They only split with an anti-war dominated vote, which in this case would benefit Trump. For him to say 2 are safe blue is Hillary tier "I don't need to visit Wisconsin" type of error.

Don't forget those liberal Italians rising up.

Estimates seem to be putting the crowd at Trump's Sanford rally in the thousands.

 

[Harvey Danger]

Does anyone have thoughts on this "MAGAnomics" livestream. It reminds me of the whole Reganomics talking point which has a negative connotation in my mind.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=Qh0HQ1PRQ3w

It won't ultimately matter. Reaganomics was a specific supply-side economic theory; MAGANomics is just Trump talking points, which are basic bitch economic nationalism from 60-80 years ago. Maybe the label leads to word association with Reaganomics, but there's no relation otherwise.

I don't think anyone is voting for Trump because of his comprehensive economic theory, they vote for specific things (pro-tarriff, anti-NAFTA, pro-fracking, etc). If he can get the word out on those topics, great, but I don't think that's the decision gap going on in the race right now. People are making up their mind based on Covid, the riots, and lockdowns.

 

[PepsiVanilla]

Well here are the states comparing Trump numbers from 2016 to 2020. Bascially he is running unopposed for the most part as a few nobodies challenged him and got even higher numbers in almost most cases. Also they got rid of the caucus system, which Trump was weak against that allowed Cruz to get some wins.

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I wonder what's going on with Indiana and Missouri. Not that I'm really worried about either of those states but still.

 

[The Pink Panther]

Does anyone have thoughts on this "MAGAnomics" livestream. It reminds me of the whole Reganomics talking point which has a negative connotation in my mind.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=Qh0HQ1PRQ3w

>Steve Cortes

dropped

 

[MrJokerRager]

I wonder what's going on with Indiana and Missouri. Not that I'm really worried about either of those states but still.

Ted Cruz happened. Trump ran unopposed and I guess the religious types who like Pence and Cruz decided to stay home is my best guess otherwise Trump had over 90% vote share in the 2020 editions.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Indiana_Republican_presidential_primary

2016 United States presidential election in Missouri - Wikipedia

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2020 Indiana Republican presidential primary - Wikipedia

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2020 Missouri Republican presidential primary - Wikipedia

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However the GOP robbed us of a chance to see how much could Trump run up in Minnesota. They also did not hold the Arizona primary so we don't know how much of a jump would there have been as Texas had a giant jump.

It is interesting to note though that Trump is stable in Ohio. However he has probably lost enthusiasm in Massholistan, Rhode Island, Delaware and Conneticut. States where he probably wasn't going to win anyways, I would have swapped out all four worthless states for a primary in Arizona and Minnesota.

Also throw in Illinois though I am surprised his enthusiasm has gone down there, not that he was going to win there anyways.

 

[CrippleThreat]

Air Force One has landed for Trump's return!

 

[make_it_so]

RCP polling apparently showing that Biden is suddenly collapsing in numerous states

https://twitter.com/paulsperry_/status/1315645400699858944

and RazorFist opining that there's nothing "suddenly" about it.

https://twitter.com/RAZ0RFIST/status/1315771458488995840

 

[Puff]

RCP polling apparently showing that Biden is suddenly collapsing in numerous states
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https://tw.tinf.io/paulsperry_/status/1315645400699858944

and RazorFist opining that there's nothing "suddenly" about it.
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"Ohio, Arizona, Texas, and Georgia"
"Key battleground states"
Wew. That's a reach. Ohio certainly is, but...

 

[Iwasamwillbe]

Here's a fun game, look at the YouTube comments sections for any Trump ad that reaches multiple millions of views, such as this one:

What you're most likely to see is:

• Comments saying the ad's quality is low (I don't know why, it seems pretty ok to me)
• Comments complaining about the ad's fearmongering tone (which is pretty hilarious, considering)
• Comments about the state of the comment section
• Comments about the "horror movie trailer" vibe of the ad (which ties into the fearmongering tone)
• Comments complaining that the ad is "childish" or otherwise "unpresidential"
• General political argument autism (if you go far enough down)

And I don't know why, but I just can't shake off the feeling that most of these comments come from people too young to vote, bots, or Twitter leftists who won't vote anyway.

As an aside, Trump videos with below a million views general have much more positive comment sections.

 

[Doctor of Autism]

"Ohio, Arizona, Texas, and Georgia"
"Key battleground states"
Wew. That's a reach. Ohio certainly is, but...

Texas and Georgia being battleground states is the most laughable thing I've ever read.

 

[Ruin]

Texas and Georgia being battleground states is the most laughable thing I've ever read.

Idk, didn't Georgia almost elect that hideous and incredibly dumb nog Stacy Abrahms or wherever?

 

[he who has thus come/gone]

"Ohio, Arizona, Texas, and Georgia"
"Key battleground states"
Wew. That's a reach. Ohio certainly is, but...

Arizona is a battleground, sort of. It's just leaning more dem every four years. Given Trafalgar's polling, it doesn't seem at the moment like it's going blue this year.

Texas and Georgia were never battlegrounds with a normal to strong republican candidate. Try again in about 12 years, dems.

Ohio is as safe as you can get for a "battleground." We'er talking more than +5 Trump. It's likely closer to +10 than +5, given Baris' polling there.

What's happening is that polls are herding and beginning to balance out just like they did in 2016. They'll never be actually accurate, but what can you do? The MSM are Biden surrogates through and through.