War Hamilton City Council takes down Captain Hamilton statue


Cheers rang out around Hamilton's Civic Square as a colonial statue was removed after a formal request and a pledge to tear it down.

But while some Waikato residents were happy to see him go, others thought the statue was part of the region's history and should stay.

Before the removal, Huntly kaumātua Taitimu Maipi told Stuff he intended to tear down the bronze during a protest march on Saturday.


"I went up to my tribe [on Thursday] and told them I'm taking the statue out, I left my name at Hamilton City Council and said, I'm taking it out."


“It's a great symbol of moving forward.”

However, Julie McMillan thought it should stay as it was part of history.

“How many people actually sit there and study this ornament?

“It’s part of our past, it should be a reminder ... a reminder not to go there again.”

The statue of Captain John Fane Charles Hamilton, who the city is named after, was gifted to Hamilton by the Gallagher Group in 2013.

According to the council's communications department, it has now gone to a "secure, undisclosed location until a decision on its future is determined".

In a statement, Chief Executive Richard Briggs said the decision to remove the statue was made following a request from Waikato-Tainui.

It had also become clear the statue was likely to be vandalised.

“We know this statue is contentious for a number of our community members. It is the right thing for the council to take the opportunity to look at the long-term plan for this artwork and determine where and how it might fit in to the city’s future."




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Resident James Macrum said he was happy to see the statue go, and was pleased he did not have to explain to his children who this person was any more.

“I felt a big weight come off my shoulders," he told Stuff as the statue came down about 10.50am on Friday.


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The statue of Captain John Fane Charles Hamilton was damaged and graffitied by protester, Taitimu Maipi.

“It's a great symbol of moving forward.”

However, Julie McMillan thought it should stay as it was part of history.

“How many people actually sit there and study this ornament?

“It’s part of our past, it should be a reminder ... a reminder not to go there again.”

The statue of Captain John Fane Charles Hamilton, who the city is named after, was gifted to Hamilton by the Gallagher Group in 2013.

According to the council's communications department, it has now gone to a "secure, undisclosed location until a decision on its future is determined".

In a statement, Chief Executive Richard Briggs said the decision to remove the statue was made following a request from Waikato-Tainui.

It had also become clear the statue was likely to be vandalised.

“We know this statue is contentious for a number of our community members. It is the right thing for the council to take the opportunity to look at the long-term plan for this artwork and determine where and how it might fit in to the city’s future."

People clapped and cheered as the statue was removed after activist Taitimu Maipi said he intended to remove it himself during a protest on Saturday.

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People clapped and cheered as the statue was removed after activist Taitimu Maipi said he intended to remove it himself during a protest on Saturday.
There were also public safety concerns for the car park below, he said.

Briggs said the removal would be the start of wider discussions with key city stakeholders. It was not about erasing history but instead understanding the wider context behind it.

“We have been working collaboratively with Waikato-Tainui for more than 12 months on a project to review culturally sensitive place names and sites. We understand this work is vitally important in raising awareness to cultural harm which has taken place.

“What I can say is the council is absolutely committed to finding an amicable long-term solution for Waikato-Tainui, the Gallagher family and the wider Hamilton community.”

Mayor Paula Southgate agrees now is the right time to discuss the future of the Hamilton statue.


“I know many people – in fact a growing number of people – find the statue personally and culturally offensive. We can’t ignore what is happening all over the world and nor should we. At a time when we are trying to build tolerance and understanding between cultures and in the community, I don’t think the statue helps us to bridge those gaps.

“While I appreciate the statue was gifted to the city before my time on council, we need to think about its role and potential location in the city.”

Southgate said civic square is not the right location.

“I initially raised my concerns with John Gallagher in November of last year and have spoken to him again recently. He was very understanding and receptive to having this discussion.”

When the Gallagher family knew there was a credible threat to the statue through the Black Lives Matter march, she said they agreed it should come out.

“It is wise to protect the public and [to] protect public property, because I don't in any way condone damage to public property.”

The life-size artwork of Captain Hamilton was created by Margriet Windhausen who is well known in Hamilton for another bronze sculpture, The Farming Family.
 
Are they renaming the city too? Also they didn't say what he did that somehow makes him bad.

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Some Fuckface quoted in the article dijo:
Resident James Macrum said he was happy to see the statue go, and was pleased he did not have to explain to his children who this person was any more.

Fuck you you fucking clown. People like you illustrate why statues like this should fucking exist. History happened. We learn from history, both from good and bad. We should learn from history, and having a statue of a controversial figure should allow for said learning. Of course I'm sure your head is so far up your ass that your explanation would probably cause the child ear and brain cancer from your stupidity, but at least they can have some basis to learn from, so your children can see how moronic you are when they learn online.
 
These wakanda citizens are heroes. There is no better way of building bridges than destroying history.
 
Are they renaming the city too? Also they didn't say what he did that somehow makes him bad.

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Fuck you you fucking clown. People like you illustrate why statues like this should fucking exist. History happened. We learn from history, both from good and bad. We should learn from history, and having a statue of a controversial figure should allow for said learning. Of course I'm sure your head is so far up your ass that your explanation would probably cause the child ear and brain cancer from your stupidity, but at least they can have some basis to learn from, so your children can see how moronic you are when they learn online.
The white tribe deserves to be blacked at this rate. Your ancestors work all this hard hard only for all the children to piss it all away. The World Wars were a mistake that destroyed the white tribe.
 
While we are at it, lets just tear down Rome. Don't need to remind every other European, middle eastern, and north African about that pesky history of slavery.
 
Can we start trolling people by making privately-owned statues in our property and surrounding them with razor wire and powered fences? I wanna celebrate the original british hero Jack The Ripper.
Other great options:
-Statue of liberty but it's an orangutan holding up a banana (dunno, but I'm sure there'll be lots of dissection of how it's racist)
-Mickey mouse and donald duck holding hands, but micky has a fully erect, monstrous penis
- The unabomber, with his essy engraved on the podium
- Tony hawk pro skater, except he's genderswapped
 
Apparently the statue was gifted in 2013, so it wasn’t even some sort of long standing symbol. I can see how that could piss some of the Maori off. The guy kills a bunch of your people in a battle that he later dies in and now you get a statue of him.

It’s like if Spain sent a statue of Hernan Cortez to an Aztec Mexica community. There’s no one from that time still alive, but the gesture comes across like Spain is saying fuck you.
 
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Apparently the statue was gifted in 2013, so it wasn’t even some sort of long standing symbol. I can see how that could piss some of the Maori off. The guy kills a bunch of your people in a battle that he later dies in and now you get a statue of him.

It’s like if Spain sent a statue of Hernan Cortez to an Aztec community. There’s no one from that time still alive, but the gesture comes across like Spain is saying fuck you.
I'd hope Spain did exactly that. Aztecs were fucking genocidal monsters, themselves, and needed the teabagging.
 
I'd hope Spain did exactly that. Aztecs were fucking genocidal monsters, themselves, and needed the teabagging.
The civilization was, but I was referring to the general native population. I think the proper term is Mexica. All of the natives in that region, even if they weren’t Aztec, were labeled as Aztec.
 
Can we start trolling people by making privately-owned statues in our property and surrounding them with razor wire and powered fences? I wanna celebrate the original british hero Jack The Ripper.
Other great options:
-Statue of liberty but it's an orangutan holding up a banana (dunno, but I'm sure there'll be lots of dissection of how it's racist)
-Mickey mouse and donald duck holding hands, but micky has a fully erect, monstrous penis
- The unabomber, with his essy engraved on the podium
- Tony hawk pro skater, except he's genderswapped
The reason the Lenin statue in Seattle still stands is it's private property. Even as city officials have wanted it removed and even as it keeps being brought up because of the confederate slave owner white people statue removals, it's a privately owned statue on private property.
 
Are they renaming the city too? Also they didn't say what he did that somehow makes him bad.

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Fuck you you fucking clown. People like you illustrate why statues like this should fucking exist. History happened. We learn from history, both from good and bad. We should learn from history, and having a statue of a controversial figure should allow for said learning. Of course I'm sure your head is so far up your ass that your explanation would probably cause the child ear and brain cancer from your stupidity, but at least they can have some basis to learn from, so your children can see how moronic you are when they learn online.

His kids might be really dumb if he had to keep explaining the same thing to them enough to get annoyed with it, you are awfully optimistic about their futures.
 
Are they renaming the city too? Also they didn't say what he did that somehow makes him bad.

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Fuck you you fucking clown. People like you illustrate why statues like this should fucking exist. History happened. We learn from history, both from good and bad. We should learn from history, and having a statue of a controversial figure should allow for said learning. Of course I'm sure your head is so far up your ass that your explanation would probably cause the child ear and brain cancer from your stupidity, but at least they can have some basis to learn from, so your children can see how moronic you are when they learn online.

The dude was a Brittish/colonist solider who died during the battle of Gate Pa. Which itself was part of the Tauranga campaign, a six month long war between the British monarchy and the indigenous Maori people. And I knew literally none of this until just now.
Next time author include this context in your article so that people who don't live in your bumfuck country will understand what the fuck it is you're so angry about.
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Lol he died charging into battle like an exceptional individual.
. They arrived at a critical moment; the storming party exposed to a murderous fire on all sides, and from hidden assailants beneath, and without an officer left to lead them, were wavering; part were outside the pa. Captain Hamilton sprung upon the parapet, and shouting 'follow me, men!' dashed into the fight. That moment was his last. He fell dead, pierced through the brain by a bullet, and many of his officers shared the same fate."
 
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Its New Zealand, you may be confusing it with Alexander Hamilton.
Alex Hamilton was jewish, so his legacy [as a subversive prick (aka jew-par-excellance)] is probably safe.

piss some of the Maori off
Like Sikhs, I think the Maori are one group that isn't demonized and shit on enough. They deserve a lot worse. I hope the Chinese are merciless with them once they take over that region.
 
All these crying about colonialism in places that really didn't had any infrastructure before Europeans got there. Seriously, what were abbos, North american Indians and Maoris were doing?
I understand in South-, Meso-America, North Africa and Asia where you had big ass civilizations already there with pyramids and shit. But in the New World and Australia and New Zealand?
Geez.
 
Why? What did they do? They didn’t start practicing cannabalism again?

Like Sikhs, modern lefty-ism and 'societal progressivism' has begun to leak in and affect a lot of the younger generation (Mostly in the Cities and urbanised communities).

The Oppression Stack is toxic to society, if you give people a way to advance themselves at the cost of others, instead of having to work for it, then they'll sure as hell take it, even if it means having to score faux-oppression points to get to the top.
 
The reason the Lenin statue in Seattle still stands is it's private property. Even as city officials have wanted it removed and even as it keeps being brought up because of the confederate slave owner white people statue removals, it's a privately owned statue on private property.

Talk about irony and btw, that could be a good meme: Lenin was against private property and how he would react if he knew then his statue in Seattle is in private property?
 
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