In unprecedented move, Treasury orders Trump’s name printed on stimulus checks - Kim Jong Trump

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The Treasury Department has ordered President Trump’s name be printed on stimulus checks the Internal Revenue Service is rushing to send to tens of millions of Americans, a process that could slow their delivery by a few days, senior IRS officials said.

The unprecedented decision, finalized late Monday, means that when recipients open the $1,200 paper checks the IRS is scheduled to begin sending to 70 million Americans in coming days, “President Donald J. Trump” will appear on the left side of the payment.

It will be the first time a president’s name appears on an IRS disbursement, whether a routine refund or one of the handful of checks the government has issued to taxpayers in recent decades either to stimulate a down economy or share the dividends of a strong one.

Treasury officials disputed that the checks would be delayed.

While some people receiving the checks — the centerpiece of the U.S. government’s economic relief package to stave of the effects of the coronavirus pandemic — may not care, or observe, whose name appears on them, the decision is another sign of Trump’s effort to cast his response to the pandemic in political terms.

Trump had privately suggested to Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin, who oversees the IRS, to allow the president to formally sign the checks, according to three administration officials who spoke on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak publicly.

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But the president is not an authorized signer for legal disbursements by the U.S. Treasury. It is standard practice for a civil servant to sign checks issued by the Treasury Department to ensure that government payments are nonpartisan.

The checks will instead bear Trump’s name in the memo line, below a line that reads, “Economic Impact Payment,” the administration officials said.
IRS to begin issuing $1,200 coronavirus payments but some Americans won’t receive check until September


The IRS will mail the checks to people for whom it does not have banking information. Many of them have low incomes.

The checks will carry the signature of an official with the Bureau of the Fiscal Service, the Treasury Department division that prints the checks. The checks will follow direct deposits issued in recent days to the bank accounts of about 80 million people. Those payments do not include Trump’s name.

The decision to have the paper checks bear Trump’s name, in the works for weeks, according to a Treasury official, was announced early Tuesday to the IRS’s information technology team. The team, working from home, is now racing to implement a programming change that two senior IRS officials said will probably lead to a delay in issuing the first batch of paper checks. They are scheduled to be sent Thursday to the Bureau of the Fiscal Service for printing and issuing.

Computer code must be changed to include the president’s name, and the system must be tested, these officials said. “Any last minute request like this will create a downstream snarl that will result in a delay,” said Chad Hooper, a quality-control manager who serves as national president of the IRS’s Professional Managers Association.

A Treasury Department representative, however, denied any delay and said the plan all along was to issue the checks next week.
“Economic Impact Payment checks are scheduled to go out on time and exactly as planned—there is absolutely no delay whatsoever,” the representative said in a written statement. She said this was a faster process than the stimulus checks the George W. Bush administration issued in 2008 to head off a looming recession.

“In fact, we expect the first checks to be in the mail early next week which is well in advance of when the first checks went out in 2008 and well in advance of initial estimates,” the statement said.

An IRS representative referred questions to the Treasury Department.

The paper checks are scheduled to be issued at a rate of 5 million each week until September, starting with the lowest-income taxpayers.
The $2 trillion stimulus, the government’s largest and most recent coronavirus rescue package, was passed by a bipartisan Congress and signed by the president. The checks to individual taxpayers were not originally Trump’s idea, but he embraced them after Sens. Josh Hawley (R-Mo.) and Mitt Romney (R-Utah) proposed them.

The stimulus checks are arriving. People are mostly spending them on food.

The White House had initially floated a payroll tax cut as a centerpiece of its stimulus effort but backed off that plan amid concerns it would not reach American households quickly enough.

Trump has repeatedly called the legislation “a Trump administration initiative” and placed himself singularly at the center of what the government is doing to help Americans during the coronavirus response — taking full credit.

About six months before he faces reelection, with his campaign on pause because the virus has prevented him from holding the rallies that are popular with his base, the checks provide Trump with a new form of retail politics. A check provides a touchable, bread-and-butter symbol to taxpayers right in their mailboxes.

But to critics and some IRS employees, many of whom started to learn of the decision on Tuesday, the presence of Trump’s name on the checks reeks of partisanship in a corner of the government that touches all Americans and has, since the Nixon era, steadfastly steered clear of politics. After President Richard Nixon targeted a wide range of “enemy” groups for tax audits, including civil rights groups, reporters and prominent Democrats, Congress enacted laws to ensure that the agency conducts itself apolitically.

“Taxes are supposed to be nonpolitical, and it’s that simple,” said Nina Olson, who stepped down last fall after an 18-year tenure as the National Taxpayer Advocate, leading an arm of the IRS that helps individual taxpayers resolve tax problems, manages clinics for low-income taxpayers and advises the agency on service issues.

“It’s absolutely unprecedented,” Olson said..

She recalled that when the Bush administration delivered economic rebate checks of $300 to $600 to taxpayers in 2001 to share the benefits of a strong economy, the White House asked the IRS to include in a letter to taxpayers a sentence that took credit for “giving you your money back.”
The IRS commissioner at the time refused, Olson recalled, because the move was perceived as too political.

When the Bush administration launched its $168 billion economic stimulus package in 2008, the checks were signed by a treasury official.
Only the IRS commissioner and general counsel are politically appointed. The current, Trump-appointed commissioner, Charles Rettig, a tax attorney confirmed by the Senate in 2018, was appointed to a five-year term designed to carry over into a possible new administration.

Hooper, the president of the Professional Managers Association, said he was appalled by what he called “an abuse of government resources.”
“In this time of need for additional resources,” Hooper said, “anything that takes our focus from getting those checks out the door and hampers the equitable, fair administration of the tax code is not something we can support.”

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) has dismissed suggestions about Trump signing checks or having his name attached. Last week she said the payments should go out as quickly as possible without “waiting for a fancy-Dan letter from the president.”

About 150 million Americans and others are expected to receive the one-time payment. The first wave of recipients includes mainly people who filed a 2018 or 2019 tax return and gave the IRS their direct deposit information. Under the stimulus plan, single filers earning up to $75,000 a year receive a payment of $1,200. Married couples earning up to $150,000 a year receive a payment of $2,400. Parents receive an additional $500 for each child under 17.

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Trump has joined Juche gang. Worship your dear supreme leader Kim Jong Trump!!!!!! His narcissism is dying for your acknowledgment and admiration. It's not his money and wasn't even his bill, but his name must be present on tax payer funded checks. It'll make it longer for you to receive it, but who cares right? Dear leader must be loved.

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Leave red bb @tuscangarder alone with his fan service Trumpchange.

If it makes you feel any better Tuscan, the Kim's would never give out cheques.
There's one great story my dad told me about the time Il-Sung had people toss out tiny sacks of white rice with his face on it, during a motorcade.
The rice beat the peasants about the head due to the height the motorcade was at.
What sacks didn't burst upon clobbering the townsfolk, were fought over relentlessly, until the military confiscated them and swept up the spilled rice.

Don't know if it's true or just a South Korean rumor, but it would have been cool if Trump did that, tbh.
 
The Washington Post citing anonymous sources? Yeah. Sure. Okay.

Dude, do you not know the current state of journalism in Clown World?

Leave red bb @tuscangarder alone with his fan service Trumpchange.

If it makes you feel any better Tuscan, the Kim's would never give out cheques.
There's one great story my dad told me about the time Il-Sung had people toss out tiny sacks of white rice with his face on it, during a motorcade.
The rice beat the peasants about the head due to the height the motorcade was at.
What sacks didn't burst upon clobbering the townsfolk, were fought over relentlessly, until the military confiscated them and swept up the spilled rice.

Don't know if it's true or just a South Korean rumor, but it would have been cool if Trump did that, tbh.

Considering the absolute insanity of the Kim dynasty, literally anything could be true coming out of there. Our resident commie probably thinks DPRK is a land of plenty where nobody starves to death or gets executed with a fucking anti-aircraft cannon (rumors that Kim Jong-Un did this to an ex-girlfriend of his) and it's all rainbow unicorns and glitter everywhere.

Are you guys going to screw or what?

I wouldn't fuck a tranny commie if it was the last thing on Earth. Also Comrade has butt AIDS
 
Leave red bb @tuscangarder alone with his fan service Trumpchange.

If it makes you feel any better Tuscan, the Kim's would never give out cheques.
There's one great story my dad told me about the time Il-Sung had people toss out tiny sacks of white rice with his face on it, during a motorcade.
The rice beat the peasants about the head due to the height the motorcade was at.
What sacks didn't burst upon clobbering the townsfolk, were fought over relentlessly, until the military confiscated them and swept up the spilled rice.

Don't know if it's true or just a South Korean rumor, but it would have been cool if Trump did that, tbh.

Trump didn't give out anything.
 
Dear Tuscan, why do you mock me and my intelligence so much? Then again, I deserve to be mocked for engaging someone who's either a bad troll, or a brain-dead communist.

Yes, I realize Marxism doesn't inherently have a cult of personality, as it doesn't stem from its ideology, but guess what - neither does Stalinism, which has Stalin's "decay of the state" theory at its core, Juche, which is Albanian self-sufficiency communism taken to its logical, re.tarded extreme supported by China, or African Communism, which was AFAIK more anti-American pan-africanism. They just end up that way, same as how they usually end up creating a new wealthy leading class instead of the old one.

I am severly disappointed in you. I was hoping you'd choose something I didn't list, like Albanian communism under Enver Hoxha, or Tito's Yugoslavia - which was pretty successful, all things considered, because it was supported by US money. Maybe troll me ebin style, and bring up how "national socialism is still socialism, dumb nazi", or go full comrade and state "only the prehistoric Stone Age society was real communism, since it had no personal wealth". Or find a good modern example in kibbutzism.

This is what I deserve for getting my hopes up. Oh well.
 
Every red blooded patriot conservative should care.
Here, look. Because no one will say it this bluntly, I shall go ahead and enlighten you: Nobody cares what a commie thinks is patriotic. Nobody cares that you’re shrieking about a creeping dictatorship when you align yourself with an ideology that gave the 20th century it’s most vicious dictators. It makes you sound as if you’re mad that you aren’t the one doing it.

You have carved out a minority position with a failed ideology that has given us the Chernobyl disaster and the SARS-CoVid-2 pandemic. No one gives a fuck what you think
 
Dear Tuscan, why do you mock me and my intelligence so much? Then again, I deserve to be mocked for engaging someone who's either a bad troll, or a brain-dead communist.

Yes, I realize Marxism doesn't inherently have a cult of personality, as it doesn't stem from its ideology, but guess what - neither does Stalinism, which has Stalin's "decay of the state" theory at its core, Juche, which is Albanian self-sufficiency communism taken to its logical, re.tarded extreme supported by China, or African Communism, which was AFAIK more anti-American pan-africanism. They just end up that way, same as how they usually end up creating a new wealthy leading class instead of the old one.

I am severly disappointed in you. I was hoping you'd choose something I didn't list, like Albanian communism under Enver Hoxha, or Tito's Yugoslavia - which was pretty successful, all things considered, because it was supported by US money. Maybe troll me ebin style, and bring up how "national socialism is still socialism, dumb nazi", or go full comrade and state "only the prehistoric Stone Age society was real communism, since it had no personal wealth". Or find a good modern example in kibbutzism.

This is what I deserve for getting my hopes up. Oh well.

Hoxha had a huge personality cult. Tito had one too. Why would I bring up these states when you would just reply with that? Do you think I'm going to set myself up for a dumb right wing bait gotcha question? Let me name off states with dictators who had cults of personalities, makes a lot of sense.

Juche ideology all REVOLVES around the supreme leader. It isn't a personality cult that just happens to happen (like with Trump in America), it is literally required. This was my whole point in shitting on it. I don't know what your point is. Most ideologies don't tell you to worship a leader, cult of personalities just happen to occur or are manufactured by the state. Did capitalism tell the Trump cult to worship Trump? Look how angry they are in Michigan today.

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Marxism is the answer because it has no leader and no state in its final form.
 
Hoxha had a huge personality cult. Tito had one too. Why would I bring up these states when you would just reply with that? Do you think I'm going to set myself up for a dumb right wing bait gotcha question? Let me name off states with dictators who had cults of personalities, makes a lot of sense.

Juche ideology all REVOLVES around the supreme leader. It isn't a personality cult that just happens to happen (like with Trump in America), it is literally required. This was my whole point in shitting on it. I don't know what your point is. Most ideologies don't tell you to worship a leader, cult of personalities just happen to occur or are manufactured by the state. Did capitalism tell the Trump cult to worship Trump? Look how angry they are in Michigan today.

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Marxism is the answer because it has no leader and no state in its final form.

Wrong, it usually ends up with a totalitarian maniacal murderous dictator.
 
Hoxha had a huge personality cult. Tito had one too.
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Marxism is the answer because it has no leader and no state in its final form.
Neither of them were supposed to have leaders or states in their final forms, yet all of them morphed into cults. Even Marxism. IMO the fundamental problem is most of these ideologies require extreme authoritarianism, with one genius leader and at least one Public Enemy who's trying their best to destroy this genius leader and (usually) his humble people. This extreme authoritarianism quickly turns into a cult of personality, and dissidents disappear overnight.

Today's commies usually can't imagine their dream regime would be "Drumphf's America" amped up to 13, with snitches, police shooting even more people for no reason, political opponents being assasinated, kulaks and bougies taken to gulags. The USSR had "parasitism" as a social offense. These parasites were able-bodied people who refused to work, or just didn't have socially acceptable occupations: poets, authors, musicians, "intellectuals".

Today, useless soyboy journos and tiddy streamer THOTs would fill the prisons instead of poor working-class African-Americans who were busted for having a joint on them.
Wrong, it usually ends up with a totalitarian maniacal murderous dictator.
Which fact even this certified PoI can recognize. Good take there, Pam.
 
Neither of them were supposed to have leaders or states in their final forms, yet all of them morphed into cults. Even Marxism. IMO the fundamental problem is most of these ideologies require extreme authoritarianism, with one genius leader and at least one Public Enemy who's trying their best to destroy this genius leader and (usually) his humble people. This extreme authoritarianism quickly turns into a cult of personality, and dissidents disappear overnight.

Today's commies usually can't imagine their dream regime would be "Drumphf's America" amped up to 13, with snitches, police shooting even more people for no reason, political opponents being assasinated, kulaks and bougies taken to gulags. The USSR had "parasitism" as a social offense. These parasites were able-bodied people who refused to work, or just didn't have socially acceptable occupations: poets, authors, musicians, "intellectuals".

Today, useless soyboy journos and tiddy streamer THOTs would fill the prisons instead of poor working-class African-Americans who were busted for having a joint on them.

Which fact even this certified PoI can recognize. Good take there, Pam.

This is so dumb and disingenuous, I added the Trump part in my last post so that you wouldn't attempt to make this gay argument. I know your type better than you know yourself, which is why I was able to predict your every move.

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Unfortunately for racists like tuscan, Wakandans are loving their Trumped sign checks.

Black don't crack, but it can be bought

Who in the fuck said anything about black people? Your posts makes 0 sense.
 
This is so dumb and disingenuous, I added the Trump part in my last post so that you wouldn't attempt to make this gay argument. I know your type better than you know yourself, which is why I was able to predict your every move.



Who in the fuck said anything about black people? Your posts makes 0 sense.

I was actually trying to get the thread back to the topic of Trump bux but people just hate you more so oh well
 
Hoxha had a huge personality cult. Tito had one too. Why would I bring up these states when you would just reply with that? Do you think I'm going to set myself up for a dumb right wing bait gotcha question? Let me name off states with dictators who had cults of personalities, makes a lot of sense.

Juche ideology all REVOLVES around the supreme leader. It isn't a personality cult that just happens to happen (like with Trump in America), it is literally required. This was my whole point in shitting on it. I don't know what your point is. Most ideologies don't tell you to worship a leader, cult of personalities just happen to occur or are manufactured by the state. Did capitalism tell the Trump cult to worship Trump? Look how angry they are in Michigan today.

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Marxism is the answer because it has no leader and no state in its final form.
It's final form does not exist and has never existed.

The only Marxist dictatorship that I can think of that didn't have a personality cult was the Khmer Rouge. It's actually what makes Pol Pot unique.
 
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