Victor Mignogna v. Funimation Productions, LLC, et al. (2019) - Vic's lawsuit against Funimation, VAs, and others, for over a million dollars.

Am I wrong in thinking it admits them to the record for the purposes of the appeals court?

Maybe. I imagine the appeals court may be looking at a few matters of first impression where there isn't directly relevant case law because nobody fucked up a record in precisely this way before.
 
Maybe. I imagine the appeals court may be looking at a few matters of first impression where there isn't directly relevant case law because nobody fucked up a record in precisely this way before.
That's why it's extremely important to trawl through the record and see what's available without the affidavits.

For instance, All the aspects of a prima facie case for Moronica defamation and TI should be there from the texts and the interaction between Chupp and Ty in regards of the damages - somehow Chupp decided that the damages from Kamehacon weren't enough, but they WERE discussed during the hearing and thus in the record.

Marchi, I don't see much of a difference about. The amended petition filed in time had her fake make out with Vic after the supposed incident happened. If that's not prima facie evidence of malice in regards of the story of him assaulting her, I don't know what is.

I admit, I don't know what difference the affidavits make in re: Funimation
 
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Bullshit. Ty specifically said that they could not conduct discovery.

Also the texts IN THE RECORD specifically have Ron state that him and Monica were going to contact others. If Chupp isn't familiarising himself with the case, then all you can say of Ty is that he didn't think on his feet well enough.

If Chupp wants to handle this in 1 hearing as he did, he should've familiarised himself with everything so that simple two second forgetfulness don't get a case thrown out. I really don't think it's fair to expect the lawyer to be able to answer questions that he should not even have to answer (why did he need "other contracts" when he proved one required him to get counsel to resolve and required him to pay for security?)
 
Sorry to go back to an old subject, but I just wanted to know: How many appealed decisions/writs of mundamus has Chupp received?

No idea how many appealed decisions, but he has "at least 3" writs of mandamus, with twitter saying he has several more we haven't found yet, possibly due to the appeals court giving him the chance to fix shit before they become official.
 
The idiot doesn't even know the difference between tortoise interference with prospective business relations and tortoise interference with existing contracts.

With TI-PBR, it's true you do need to have an underlying tort. "Don't hire Vic because he's totally really a sexual predator/I'll break your kneecaps/I'll blackmail you."

With TI-EC, pressuring someone to breach contract is the tort. Even if Vic totally really is a sexual predator, you can't use that information to get a con to breach contract (at least in Texas). The only safeguard for TI-EC in Texas, from my understanding, is privilege. If the con owner goes up to you and asks what your opinions are on signing Thicc Lasagna, then you'd be fine.

Actually, now that I think about it, I'm wondering about loopholes. Let's say the con owner asks you directly about Vic (thus you have privilege), but you defame Vic under that privilege ("Vic's totally going to rape your women"), would that be TI-EC or just plain old defamation?
 
I'm looking for your honest opinions: What is worse for Vic? Loosing the appeals after loosing TCPA? Or would it have been worse for him not to sue at all?

I'm looking at the broader picture here. I think it's safe to say at this point he's not going to get VA work with the bigger studios now. Funimation is not going to rehire him, Viz hasn't contacted him in months. His con situation also seems to be independent from the lawsuit, he's not going to get invited to most of the big cons (except of AM), he still gets invited to small cons. He did get to go to Kamehacon thanks to Ty. His reputation is fucked, there are a group of people who will hate him either way and nothing will change that. Thanks to the lawsuit, people now know he fucked whores and unsuccessfully tried to live out a twin fucking fantasy. No, this doesn't bother us, but it reinforces other people's hate for him.

After the Projared situation, I sometimes just wonder if Vic should've simply made a video as a response after a few months, denying everything and showing all the receipts that internet sleuths collected,stuff that didn't even make it into the lawsuit. What would have changed? He wouldn't have been hired back or hired by other big companies, just as it is now. A lot of people would have supported him, a vocal minority would have hated him, just as it is now. But he couldn't have "lost" a video, right? He can lose the lawsuit though and him loosing appeals is going to actually reinforce the vocal minority that hates him.

Sorry for long post, I've been thinking 🤔
 
I'm looking for your honest opinions: What is worse for Vic? Loosing the appeals after loosing TCPA? Or would it have been worse for him not to sue at all?

I'm looking at the broader picture here. I think it's safe to say at this point he's not going to get VA work with the bigger studios now. Funimation is not going to rehire him, Viz hasn't contacted him in months. His con situation also seems to be independent from the lawsuit, he's not going to get invited to most of the big cons (except of AM), he still gets invited to small cons. He did get to go to Kamehacon thanks to Ty. His reputation is fucked, there are a group of people who will hate him either way and nothing will change that. Thanks to the lawsuit, people now know he fucked whores and unsuccessfully tried to live out a twin fucking fantasy. No, this doesn't bother us, but it reinforces other people's hate for him.

After the Projared situation, I sometimes just wonder if Vic should've simply made a video as a response after a few months, denying everything and showing all the receipts that internet sleuths collected,stuff that didn't even make it into the lawsuit. What would have changed? He wouldn't have been hired back or hired by other big companies, just as it is now. A lot of people would have supported him, a vocal minority would have hated him, just as it is now. But he couldn't have "lost" a video, right? He can lose the lawsuit though and him loosing appeals is going to actually reinforce the vocal minority that hates him.

Sorry for long post, I've been thinking 🤔
Personally, I don't think he'd still be getting invited to the smaller conventions if he never sued and revealed the defendants and the screaming mob as the real spergs that they are. It probably won't be next year or anything like that, but things should hopefully normal out for Vic in the future for his con appearances. I also keep hearing about him opening his own dubbing/recording studio at some point, so hopefully that works out for him if he goes through with it.
 
I'm looking for your honest opinions: What is worse for Vic? Loosing the appeals after loosing TCPA? Or would it have been worse for him not to sue at all?

I'm looking at the broader picture here. I think it's safe to say at this point he's not going to get VA work with the bigger studios now. Funimation is not going to rehire him, Viz hasn't contacted him in months. His con situation also seems to be independent from the lawsuit, he's not going to get invited to most of the big cons (except of AM), he still gets invited to small cons. He did get to go to Kamehacon thanks to Ty. His reputation is fucked, there are a group of people who will hate him either way and nothing will change that. Thanks to the lawsuit, people now know he fucked whores and unsuccessfully tried to live out a twin fucking fantasy. No, this doesn't bother us, but it reinforces other people's hate for him.

After the Projared situation, I sometimes just wonder if Vic should've simply made a video as a response after a few months, denying everything and showing all the receipts that internet sleuths collected,stuff that didn't even make it into the lawsuit. What would have changed? He wouldn't have been hired back or hired by other big companies, just as it is now. A lot of people would have supported him, a vocal minority would have hated him, just as it is now. But he couldn't have "lost" a video, right? He can lose the lawsuit though and him loosing appeals is going to actually reinforce the vocal minority that hates him.

Sorry for long post, I've been thinking 🤔
not suing at all would have been worse. Had he never started to kick back a lot of us here would still believe he was a bad person. The same is accurate outside of the farms. A LOT of people started out standing behind his cause but even more people stood AGAINST him. This all being brought out into the open was what allowed for many of us to be convinced of his innocence. Him fighting back allowed him to actually regain business so good thing he sued. Even if he loses the appeals none of this changes. Losing the appeals doesn't make him guilty, it doesn't make MoRonica, Shameful Harpie and no-fun-allowed-imation "innocent" either. It would just mean "This court considers them innocent" but WE already know they are guilty. We've seen the evidence and that evidence was not doctored either.
 
I'm looking for your honest opinions: What is worse for Vic? Loosing the appeals after loosing TCPA? Or would it have been worse for him not to sue at all?

I'm looking at the broader picture here. I think it's safe to say at this point he's not going to get VA work with the bigger studios now. Funimation is not going to rehire him, Viz hasn't contacted him in months. His con situation also seems to be independent from the lawsuit, he's not going to get invited to most of the big cons (except of AM), he still gets invited to small cons. He did get to go to Kamehacon thanks to Ty. His reputation is fucked, there are a group of people who will hate him either way and nothing will change that. Thanks to the lawsuit, people now know he fucked whores and unsuccessfully tried to live out a twin fucking fantasy. No, this doesn't bother us, but it reinforces other people's hate for him.

After the Projared situation, I sometimes just wonder if Vic should've simply made a video as a response after a few months, denying everything and showing all the receipts that internet sleuths collected,stuff that didn't even make it into the lawsuit. What would have changed? He wouldn't have been hired back or hired by other big companies, just as it is now. A lot of people would have supported him, a vocal minority would have hated him, just as it is now. But he couldn't have "lost" a video, right? He can lose the lawsuit though and him loosing appeals is going to actually reinforce the vocal minority that hates him.

Sorry for long post, I've been thinking 🤔

Even if he "lost the case," you notice they aren't actively interfering like they were before? All the drama they've been creating has entirely been them repeating the same talking points and whining about random shit.

They knew exactly what they were doing and know if they do it again, they might have a more compelling case against them. Sure they make a whole lot of noise. But if you really look at their behavior, they've changed dramatically.

Perhaps the only one who hasn't made much of a change is Ron but he's interested in attacking people he considers a threat over jerking himself off over calling Vic a pedo. Doucette and the majority of lawtwit are the most vocal anyway feeling as if they're untouchable while at the same time professing that they're experts in their field.

If they don't want to acknowledge what they are doing as being defamatory and/or malicious in nature, especially considering none of them have any justifiable reasoning for speaking like they do, then they're proving just how incompetent they are at understanding law. It's basically a walking advertisement of "don't hire me unless you want to witness me fumble harder than Chupp because of my superiority complex.

Tl;Dr Vic got results even if they weren't the ones he hoped for, but because of his pursuit the people pursuing him have been forced to change their tactics and play safe.

Also obligatory fuck lawtwit
 
Actually, now that I think about it, I'm wondering about loopholes. Let's say the con owner asks you directly about Vic (thus you have privilege), but you defame Vic under that privilege ("Vic's totally going to rape your women"), would that be TI-EC or just plain old defamation?

I can't speak to Texas specifically, but generally, TI is much harder to win if the defendant wasn't the one who started the conversation. If the person being asked doesn't know there's a contract, or has no reasonable reason to know there's a contract (for example, you might be asking before signing the contract, or they have no reason to know that you've already signed the contract), then it wouldn't be TI. Depending on the circumstances, it's also possible that you could argue that you didn't intend to induce a breach, you merely answered a question with your own opinion (for instance, someone asks you if you'd rescind an invitation to the con if you were them, and you said "I wouldn't want a potential rapist at my con if I had the choice"); that probably wouldn't be TI, and might not even be defamation.

Bear in mind, however, that even if TI doesn't apply, there still will have been a breach of contract in these circumstances, so there are still other remedies available.
 
After the Projared situation, I sometimes just wonder if Vic should've simply made a video as a response after a few months, denying everything and showing all the receipts that internet sleuths collected,stuff that didn't even make it into the lawsuit. What would have changed? He wouldn't have been hired back or hired by other big companies, just as it is now. A lot of people would have supported him, a vocal minority would have hated him, just as it is now. But he couldn't have "lost" a video, right? He can lose the lawsuit though and him loosing appeals is going to actually reinforce the vocal minority that hates him.

Without the lawsuit, the stuff you want him to present in his video probably doesn't get found and less people would be willing to listen. Vic did a video, his deposition, and people can judge for themselves whether he is telling the truth in an unscripted performance where he isn't in control of the questions being asked.

Look at it this way, all of the worst accusations came out before there was a lawsuit. He had nothing to lose.
 
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What is worse for Vic? Loosing the appeals after loosing TCPA? Or would it have been worse for him not to sue at all?
Not suing would have been worse by a country mile. The second these allegations were made public Vic's career as it was, was dead either way. The difference is by not addressing them he'd have been seen as tacitly admitting they were true in which case he'd have been entirely fucked and wouldn't have had even a chance to redeem it. At least by suing he got his version of events out there for those who care enough to look into it

He can lose the lawsuit though and him loosing appeals is going to actually reinforce the vocal minority that hates him.
If he hadn't sued at all they'd have used his silence to reinforce their beliefs.
 
Maybe. I imagine the appeals court may be looking at a few matters of first impression where there isn't directly relevant case law because nobody fucked up a record in precisely this way before.
Appeals has a stricter time limit than lower court, although we know there’s a ton to look at they might not look at all of it. Ty or whoever is handling it has to write up a seriously straight forward appeal with as much already argued as possible so that everything can be considered even after they leave that court room.

I want it to go straight through to jury after appeal but I think you and I both know that’s probably not what’s gonna happen as much as it should.

All in all fuck these people, we already know all their “supporters” on twitter don’t actually ever show up to pay their bills at convention lines anyway.


I want this damn appeal paperwork to show up soon so we can know if Vic is gonna get his justice or not.
 
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