Trump Derangement Syndrome - Orange man bad. Read the OP! (ᴛʜɪs ᴛʜʀᴇᴀᴅ ɪs ʟɪᴋᴇ ᴋɪᴡɪ ғᴀʀᴍs ʀᴇᴠɪᴇᴡs ɴᴏᴡ) 🗿🗿🗿🗿

Yeah, me too. Why the hell couldn't the repubs have shown this fire like 10 years ago? Did Trump get them all fired up?

Their backbone seemed to solidify during the Kavanaugh confirmation. I think it wasn't just McCain's death, but also the realization that Democrats are perfectly willing to destroy a good man, burn his house to the ground, destroy his family, and salt the earth once they are done, just to score points on the Enemy.

There's no feeling of betrayal quite like realizing how depraved your friends are--and that, in fact, they never were your friends, nor do they even see you as human.
 
What are the odds that Amy McGrath is another Beto? Local candidate funded by massive amounts of outside money to challenge one of the faces of the GOP. To Amy's credit she doesn't appear to be trying to pretend that she's a different ethnicity than she actually is.

Between this and the hitpieces I've seen on McConnell recently, I wonder if Cocaine Mitch is the newest target for the hate mobs. His approval rating is at 38% from the last data I could find, but this sentence from wikipedia about his election campaign in 2014 is pretty telling imo:

Also something to note is that margin of victory was one of his highest all time, so he appears to be decently electable still.
It's Kentucky and it's a Presidential election year to boot. McGrath is fucked for the same reason Doug Jones* is fucked. It's a Red State and Trump is there to give coattails on top of that.
Of course if the Dems insist on throwing money at a hopeless race then the Beto comparisons will be quite apt.
*Yes I'm aware Roy Moore is trying to come back but he's polling horribly in the primary so that particular rabbit probably isn't gonna be pulled out of the hat again.
 
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I'm basically convinced McCain was blackmailing Mitch because as soon as he fucked off to hell Mitch became incredibly and unusually savage.
Are you confusing him with Lindsey Graham? I feel Cocaine Mitch has always been savage, just no one was paying attention before. He was blocking and slowing down Obama's judicial nominees for years. Once Gorsuch got on the bench, that's when people realized he had been playing the long game even when the GOP was the Senate minority. Half of Trump's appointments should have been filled by Obama.

He's definitely more savage recently on social media, but that's because Trump broke the ice. Not just for Mitch, but for all politicians.
 
Well my nigga, your husband did help push the Democratic Party to become obsessed with 'diversity' and 'inclusion' and SJW taking points.

 
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Speaking of Cocaine Mitch: This now ties Trump with Obama when it comes to confirmations of appointed Judges to the Ninth Circuit.
 
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It's Kentucky and it's a Presidential election year on top of that. McGrath is fucked for the same reason Doug Jones* is fucked. It's a Red State and Trump is there to give coattails on top of that.
Of course if the Dems insist on throwing money at a hopeless race then the Beto comparisons will be quite apt.
*Yes I'm aware Roy Moore is trying to come back but he's polling horribly in the primary so that particular rabbit probably isn't gonna be pilled out of the hat again.
You know I've seen some analysis on how Moore was probably as falsely accused as Kavanaugh. The big difference being Moore was just a bit bigger asshole and had a few more questionable moments in his past.

So I sometimes seriously wonder if Moore was the "test run" of the rape accusation strategy that they later pulled on Kavanaugh. And that given how the republicans threw Moore under the bus, maybe it led to the Dems overestimating how effective a strategy it was, thus their behavior over the Supreme court.
 
You know I've seen some analysis on how Moore was probably as falsely accused as Kavanaugh. The big difference being Moore was just a bit bigger asshole and had a few more questionable moments in his past.

Moore, as far as I know, admitted in an interview that he had dated a girl (Debbie Wesson Gibson) who was seventeen years younger than him, with the permission of her parents. She claimed she was a minor at the time, he claimed she was "at least nineteen". He was in his mid-to-late '30s depending on when it actually happened. Either way, he came off in that interview as a major creep. Even discounting the more wild (and frankly much less credible) accusations of sexual assault or rape that popped up during his run, I think his technically-legal-but-morally-dubious behavior is enough to sink him politically (especially given his worn out old Moral Majority public persona), and that's probably for the best.
 
You know I've seen some analysis on how Moore was probably as falsely accused as Kavanaugh. The big difference being Moore was just a bit bigger asshole and had a few more questionable moments in his past.

So I sometimes seriously wonder if Moore was the "test run" of the rape accusation strategy that they later pulled on Kavanaugh. And that given how the republicans threw Moore under the bus, maybe it led to the Dems overestimating how effective a strategy it was, thus their behavior over the Supreme court.
I'm still not entirely sure about Moore myself but that's besides the point.
Heres the thing. The Moore accusations were, forgive me for saying this, the Dems "doing it right".
Ford's testimony fell apart because it was overly vague bullshit against a low key and boring man.
The accusations against Trump fail because those are vague and petty against a man whose entire reputation is built on being a larger than life playboy.
Moore was fucked because his reputation is of the man who was too much of a Fundie for Alabama and of a genuine low down sleaze.
And even with all that it still took presidential levels of turnout and engagement on the Dems part and GOP turnout falling by literally half to let Jones eke out a tiny win.
Really that election was just a perfect storm and considering how Jones has not even tried to moderate his politics I think even he knows he's doomed.
Their backbone seemed to solidify during the Kavanaugh confirmation. I think it wasn't just McCain's death, but also the realization that Democrats are perfectly willing to destroy a good man, burn his house to the ground, destroy his family, and salt the earth once they are done, just to score points on the Enemy.

There's no feeling of betrayal quite like realizing how depraved your friends are--and that, in fact, they never were your friends, nor do they even see you as human.
Well if you're one of those principled cucks over at National Review you still believe in all that Mr Smith Goes to Washington bullshit but nobody cares what they think anymore.
Everyone else on the Right has had their eyes well and truly opened at this point.
 
This reads like textbook "how dare they say Orange Man is bad when in fact he is good." If you can't be happy the US team won because you don't like a player's politics that's your problem.
While I won't begrudge the man his own bias, it read more to me how boorish and awful these people are with the frustration that it's being excused because "orange man bad". Honestly, their behavior during their game against Japan was terrible, but no one is calling them out on it because they espouse the "correct ideals". It was like that Serena Williams moment when she got beaten by that half black and half Japanese woman, it was poor form.
 
Moore, as far as I know, admitted in an interview that he had dated a girl (Debbie Wesson Gibson) who was seventeen years younger than him, with the permission of her parents. She claimed she was a minor at the time, he claimed she was "at least nineteen". He was in his mid-to-late '30s depending on when it actually happened. Either way, he came off in that interview as a major creep. Even discounting the more wild (and frankly much less credible) accusations of sexual assault or rape that popped up during his run, I think his technically-legal-but-morally-dubious behavior is enough to sink him politically (especially given his worn out old Moral Majority public persona), and that's probably for the best.
I'm still not entirely sure about Moore myself but that's besides the point.
Heres the thing. The Moore accusations were, forgive me for saying this, the Dems "doing it right".
Ford's testimony fell apart because it was overly vague bullshit against a low key and boring man.
The accusations against Trump fail because those are vague and petty against a man whose entire reputation is built on being a larger than life playboy.
Moore was fucked because his reputation is of the man who was too much of a Fundie for Alabama and of a genuine low down sleaze.
And even with all that it still took presidential levels of turnout and engagement on the Dems part and GOP turnout falling by literally half to let Jones eke out a tiny win.
Really that election was just a perfect storm and considering how Jones has not even tried to moderate his politics I think even he knows he's doomed.

You both make excellent points, I just want to quibble on details.
1) the age of consent in Alabama back then and now is 17, so even if Moore dated a 17 year old, that isn't technically illegal.
2) It should also be noted that what is creepy now, may not necessarily have been creepy then. It's not hard to find accounts of grandparents and great-grandparents with substantial age difference. (Needless to say I find the left's chronological snobbery annoying.)
3) The final and most important point (and the one to remember) is that when the Atlantic ran their piece on Moore, there were 4 girls listed. 3 of them as having dated Moore fell under the "maybe creepy but not actually against the law" category. The 4th girl was the one that was literally illegal as she was supposedly younger than even 17 at the time and was the case that got even many conservatives against Moore. Thing is... later investigation revealed that 4th claim was really insubstantial. Still, even if rendered false, the other 3 claims had stuck in people's head and with the association, it made him "guilty regardless of innocence" in the public mind. You watch how the accusations played out with Kavanaugh, and a lot of parallels start to appear.

Here's why it bugs me: Just imagine it happened to you. Imagine in the public you were accused of 3 true, but not illegal things, and 1 untrue thing. Say for example, they said you smoked pot 3 times, and meth a 4th. Even if they prove you never smoked meth, the idea of "Mr. Example, dangerous drug-head" will be cemented in the public mind - you'll be the equivalent of Scarface to the public.

Remember Kavanaugh and beer? Same thing. What concerns me most about this tactic is that anyone can be declared guilty with it. And when everybody can be guilty, tyrants are thrilled.

Well if you're one of those principled cucks over at National Review you still believe in all that Mr Smith Goes to Washington bullshit but nobody cares what they think anymore.
Everyone else on the Right has had their eyes well and truly opened at this point.
Tell me about it. I was reading this piece by David French. There's 1 paragraph I 100% agree with...
The problem is compounded by both social media and clickbait journalism. Perhaps the single best term to describe modern discourse was coined by Mother Jones writer Kevin Drum more than a decade ago. The term is “nutpicking” and it refers to the practice of finding an extreme and outrageous member of a group and attempting to make them emblematic of the whole. Entire business models are built on nutpicking, and it’s constantly justified as the practice of finding the person who will say what the other side “really thinks” — or, to use a phrase popular on parts of the left, the person who says “the quiet part out loud.”​

Then the following paragraph...
For the better part of a month I’ve been fending off criticisms from people who demand to know why my political philosophy won’t shut down or inhibit something called “drag queen reading hour,” a series of events held at a handful of libraries across America attended by a truly insignificant numbers of Americans. The very existence of this voluntary association has been heralded, by these critics, as a sign of a cultural emergency that classical liberalism simply can’t handle.​

One would think the man would learn after the last time he thought something was no big deal.

National Review has been struck with the worst case of Gell-Mann amnesia I've ever seen. As if after decades of defending Republican presidents from the lies of the media, THIS time, they find said media finally being 100% honest.
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Some krusty hag is challenging Mitch McConnell next year and blames him for all the problems the government has including Trump, never mind that her party caused much of the problems as well.

And I thought Brianna Wu’s campaign was cringe.

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There's a feature written by the outstanding Jon Bois back in 2014 called All is lost. Basically the premise is this: In NBA 2K he creates a draft pool of the worse players the game will let him create. The shortest, weakest, least skillful possible. Those players, who he calls 'doomsday' players are the only ones who will replenish the league as the legacy players retire. He puts the game in franchise mode and lets it go, starting for the 2013-14 season. As the the doomsday players come into the league, the fewer legacy players dominate more and more against the weaker competition. Eventually only doomsday players remain and the result is as expected. In game 1 of the 2034 Finals, Orlando beats Denver 3-0 in 12 overtimes. The Magic and Nuggets combine for 1-372 from the field.

Watching the Democrats reminds me of the article. Everyone in their party are doomsday players. This is the best they can come up with to challenge their archnemesis in the Senate? For the Leader of the Free World, the Commander in Chief of the most powerful military force in the world, the best they can come up with is Hillary Clinton? Bernie Sanders? Joe Biden? Elizabeth Warren? Kamala Harris? Beto O'Rourke? Eric Swallwell? Cory Booker? Marianne Williamson? Kirsten Gillibrand?

It's like after LBJ retired, their entire draft pool was filled with doomsday players. Carter. Clinton. Obama. But there were enough legacy Dems around to still be competitive. But now? The Democratic Party is like a league full of only those losers.

They are doing the best they can. This is the best they can come up with. Three points is as much as they can score.

All is lost.
 
You go away for a couple of days and this thread runs away faster than Elizabeth Warren from the cavalry. Apologies for responding to posts from 10 pages back.

My theory is that the Dems have sunk so deeply into sjw nonsense that being oppressed is more important to them than winning.
I think they understand the first half of how despotic control is gained. Weve seen it in every socialist uprising, the rise of nazism, and probably pretty much every other butcherous despotic regime.

Essentially, create a narrative of being victimized and steep it long enough, while pointing the finger at the chosen oppressor, whether jew, bourgeoisie, white men, whatever, and when its saturated enough, it gives all the impetus needed for a power grab and an ever widening repression of your "oppressors"... from nobility, to bourgeoisie, to wreckers, to whomever.

Unfortunately for these modern wannabes, they have become such true believers while still being essentially ineffective, they aren't likely to see the culmination, at least that I can see.

The fix isn't in for Biden, if it was, Harris wouldn't be in the race, wouldn't have gone after him, wouldn't have gotten positive press, wouldn't have the press saying her polling chances doubled, Biden wouldn't be permitted to make an idiot out of himself and Obama would have endorsed him and campaigned for him, along with other Obama figureheads like Rhodes, Jarrett, etc. Hillary Clinton would be backing him, too and it would be very apparent that the Clinton and Obama machines are backing him. For the fix to be in for Biden, there also wouldn't be the "Clown car" scenario right now. There would be about 10 candidates.

Biden is the money-laundering chump getting taken for a ride who is the dumb punter's "favorite" to win it all, but actually sucks and is embarrassing. He is the Jeb Bush.

Edit: The biggest "fix" they can do is the Obamanistas and the Clinton Crime Family agree to back up Kamala Harris to tag-team against old guard Stale Pale White Male/Blue Dog sorts and people like Sanders and Warren and shit on these groups and continue to shut them out of the party. It might be a tough one to pull off, the old guard and the social justice democrats both having to eat another shit sandwich after 2016 might turn off too many donors, volunteers and voters to win 2020.

I actually think Harris has been the annointed one from the start. Biden is there as fodder so she has good optics of skillfully crushing the old white man establishment as her campaign progresses.

I can just imagine Joe's response when the DNC tell him, once hes embarrassed himself enough and made what little legacy he has a laughingstock:

"Golly gumbucks, fellas! You coulda let poor old Joe know! You always was mah friends!"
 
Their backbone seemed to solidify during the Kavanaugh confirmation. I think it wasn't just McCain's death, but also the realization that Democrats are perfectly willing to destroy a good man, burn his house to the ground, destroy his family, and salt the earth once they are done, just to score points on the Enemy.

There's no feeling of betrayal quite like realizing how depraved your friends are--and that, in fact, they never were your friends, nor do they even see you as human.

McConnell's swing is based upon three things:

1. The entire Bork and Thomas confirmation hearing debacles heavily affected Mitch; to the point that it led to him embracing total war as the solution to the Democrat question and "Never Again" when it came to not allowing the Democrats to do to Kavanaugh what was done to Bork and Thomas. Also, it's been specuated openly on Frontline that Bork getting denied a Supreme Court seat was the real reason why McConnell screwed over Garland; it was a case of "revenge best served cold" directed at the Democrats (most notably Biden) over how Bork got robbed of his seat.

2. McConnell and Trump have a basic understanding: McConnell pushes his agenda and Trump rubber stamps it, in exchange for McConnell going all bad cop and keeps the GOP in line with the stick. McCain created problems for this, especially with the Obamacare repeal vote, but once McCain died, the Never Trumpers lost the only person who could oppose lockstep unity that McConnell demanded.

3. McConnell is fully aware that if the Democrats ever take power again in the White House/Senate, they will retaliate with unspeakable fury and pretty much out McConnell McConnell to steamroll shit into law that the masses will never accept but be helpless to stop. He's in the great game and he knows if he loses, the Democrats will go full fascist dictator and the GOP will be left irrevocably neutered.
 
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