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Woman charged with raping female roommate at Susquehanna University

A Bronx co-ed has been charged with raping her female roommate at Susquehanna University, police said. Pratigya Thakur, a 19-year-old sophomore, was arrested Monday on charges of rape, indecent ass…

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A Bronx co-ed has been charged with raping her female roommate at Susquehanna University, police said.

Pratigya Thakur, a 19-year-old sophomore, was arrested Monday on charges of rape, indecent assault and harassment in connection with the alleged May 16 attack at the school in Selinsgrove, according to an arrest affidavit obtained by The Post.

Thakur’s roommate reported the alleged rape to university officials May 29, then told cops June 6. She said both she and Thakur drank alcohol and smoked marijuana before the alleged attack, the arrest affidavit states.

The roommate said she was singing and dancing inside their Hassinger Hall dorm room as she packed up her belongings ahead of a move into another university housing unit for the summer when she decided to lie down on Thakur’s bed because her own was covered with clothing and other possessions, the affidavit states.

The roommate said she felt Thakur touch her but thought she was “just trying to move her” so the Bronx teen could also fall asleep in her bed, police said.

The alleged victim told police she awoke to find Thakur “on top of her straddling her” before grabbing her hands and placing them on her roommate’s breasts. Thakur then started kissing her roommate and further molesting her, the alleged victim told police.

The victim said she tried to stop Thakur’s unwanted advances, putting her arms across her body, but she felt “very intoxicated and weak,” she told police.

Thakur then asked her roommate why they hadn’t “done this before,” according to the arrest affidavit, before proceeding to slap the victim in the face and call her “b—h” and “slut.” Thakur also “kept hitting” her roommate in the face with her pelvis, the victim told police.

“Victim reports at this time she closed her eyes and tried to [be] somewhere else in her mind,” the arrest affidavit continued.

The nightmarish assault kept going as Thakur raped her with her hand, causing her to bleed, the roommate said.

A university spokeswoman confirmed to The Post that Thakur was enrolled at the school for the spring semester, completing her second year of study.

“Students who are accused of being in violation of the student code of conduct go through a student conduct judicial process, which could lead to sanctions up to and including expulsion,” spokeswoman Amanda O’Rourke said in a statement. “I cannot comment specifically on the status of this incident.”

Thakur was released from custody in Pennsylvania after posting $10,000 cash bond, The Daily Item reports.

A message left on a phone listed in Thakur’s name was not returned Friday. It’s unclear if she’s hired a lawyer.

 

[SmileyTimeDayCare]

Other:

Why would I be surprised by a lesser sentence? It is a woman and they are brown and it is a sex crime. I'll be surprised if we ever hear about this again.

 

[Sprig of Parsley]

is it actually rape if there's not even a cock involved?
i mean yeah, getting some ugly lesbians smelly crotch shoved in your face sucks, but is it comparable to the pain of being actually raped by a man?

So what was his name?

 

[Creep3r]

Susquehanna... Now that's a name I haven't heard in a long time. Anyway yeah, shit's all kinds of wacky.

 

[Clop]

Girls will be girls.

 

[sperginity]

Yeah, nah. Fuck that. You fight. You don't stop fighting. Kick, scream, bite, punch, whatever it takes. Never just lie back and let it happen.

fighting is a good tactic when you're in a position to possibly flee, or get the attention of helpful bystanders. Being extremely intoxicated while alone in a room with the attacker makes both of those low possibilities. When you're that terrorized, the part of your brain in charge of your actions is intuitive, not rational. rationality takes too long and isn't as good at high stakes violence prediction. You basically become like an animal in response to facing someone else that is that dangerous, and sometimes playing dead or cooperating is what keeps you alive. Believing that you would act differently might make you feel better about the possibility of being victimized someday, but it's probably not true. Principles are part of your rational mind, they aren't in play until you're safe enough to think again. If the victim here was capable of trying to fight and did not, it is probably because she knew that it would escalate things and put her in more danger. The attacker had demonstrated their willingness to use violence by slapping her in the face a lot.

 

[Sprig of Parsley]

fighting is a good tactic when you're in a position to possibly flee, or get the attention of helpful bystanders. Being extremely intoxicated while alone in a room with the attacker makes both of those low possibilities. When you're that terrorized, the part of your brain in charge of your actions is intuitive, not rational. rationality takes too long and isn't as good at high stakes violence prediction. You basically become like an animal in response to facing someone else that is that dangerous, and sometimes playing dead or cooperating is what keeps you alive. Believing that you would act differently might make you feel better about the possibility of being victimized someday, but it's probably not true. Principles are part of your rational mind, they aren't in play until you're safe enough to think again. If the victim here was capable of trying to fight and did not, it is probably because she knew that it would escalate things and put her in more danger. The attacker had demonstrated their willingness to use violence by slapping her in the face a lot.

The best way to stop someone from visiting violence on your person repeatedly is to return the favor hard enough that they are no longer physically capable of doing that. Laying there will not protect you from someone who decides to do more violence to you - you're basically crossing your fingers and hoping they don't like playing with their food, so to speak. That being said, yes, being wasted puts you at a huge disadvantage.

Then again, I'm not a woman. I get very, very angry and fighty in that kind of "cornered animal" situation, and apparently that's not particularly common with women.

 

[ProgKing of the North]

I think that the woman rapist did a bad thing. She shouldn't have done that. Not sure what troons or men have to do with any of this.

 

[дядя Боря]

Under no case is physical assault OK, if you attack someone attacking you, you're no better. Violence is never the answer.

some please tell me that this is sarcasm. If not read, Starship Troopers (the book) by Heinlein. I don't always agree with him, but in terms of violent responce he fucking nailed it.

 

[Nobunaga]

My money is on a 6'2" human/gorilla hybrid who could probably snu-snu an unfortunate manlet too.


Yeah, nah. Fuck that. You fight. You don't stop fighting. Kick, scream, bite, punch, whatever it takes. Never just lie back and let it happen.

Submissive people exist, not everyone can go full jack the ripper in a flick of the switch

 

[CivilianOfTheFandomWars]

I honestly think that if a man were raped by this woman, she would get off with either a slap on the wrist or just scott-free.

Under no case is physical assault OK, if you attack someone attacking you, you're no better. Violence is never the answer.

Nah, if someones trying to hurt you, fight back. You have the right to defend yourself from harm, as you should. Otherwise you are at the total mercy of someone who wishes you harm.

 

[Gustav Schuchardt]

Indecent ass...

Hey baby! That's some indecent ass!

 

[Takodachi]

I would not be surprised.
Setting aside points that people already made, I've already given up on the justice system when it comes to cases like these and resigned myself that wymen will get away with literally everything.

 

[Marco Fucko]

As soon as I read this I thought it was a tranny, but apparently we don't know yet. Could very well be a repressed dyke since she's a pooinloo and they aren't down with that. I guess lesbian rape is a thing (?), it sucks that she'll probably get a more minor sentence.

 

[Sm0kINHaZefEEliNBlaZEd]

Violence is never the answer.

Only a sith deals in absolutes.

 

[Male Idiot]

She was just culturally enriching da whitey!

 

[TerribleIdeas™]

I dont know because from the article this seems like standard procedure for a rape accusation so far. I kinda get the "she wont get as harsh of treatment, women never do, especially against men!" Thing, but that angle doesnt seem like it's gonna fly or even be the case here. Remember there was that one famous case of that guy in college who was considered guilty but got a light sentence, or let off entirely because "he shouldnt have his life ruined", so it's not unequal.

There have been other cases of sexual harassment and even assault on women by women and I didnt follow them but I assume they followed the same standards. Woman on woman assault just doesnt happen as often.

It's weird to me that they censored bitch but not slut, though. "The affidavit reads that the defendant was calling the victim a 'b-word' and a "filthy slut' and a 'tinder whoring thot' and that she was going to 'f-word' her face".

The victim clearly said "hit me in the face with her vagina" so, I dont know about girldick or anything. Sorry to be a buzzkill, this just seems like a normal rape.

Brock Turner was charged with sexual battery IIRC, which is what the DA thought they could definitely get a conviction on, because 'digital penetration' wasn't included in the definition of rape, under the California criminal code, at the time. They had the choice between charging him with something that they were guaranteed to get a conviction for, so they could get a sex offender order, or having a less than 50% chance of conviction on a rape charge, and guaranteed appeals if he was convicted.

And if you look into the CDC NISVS, lesbians are the 3rd most victimized group by sexuality, so far as rape, stalking, DV, and the rest of the predatory and abusive sexual behaviours go; in fact, the most victimized groups, in order, are bisexual women, bisexual men, lesbian women, heterosexual women, heterosexual men, and gay men. It's a fuck of a coincidence that the 3 most victimized groups all date women, and the least victimized group only dates men, which is the exact opposite of the feminist proposition of sexual and domestic violence used as means of "Patriarchal Terrorism" which underpins the Duluth Model DV intervention paradigm, and is central to feminist advocacy on domestic and sexual violence.

is it actually rape if there's not even a cock involved?
i mean yeah, getting some ugly lesbians smelly crotch shoved in your face sucks, but is it comparable to the pain of being actually raped by a man?

If you'd read the copy-pasted article, there was evidence of digital penetration, and the notion that rape is contingent on the presence of a penis is directly contradictory to one of the fundamental tenets of our modern understanding of British Common Law, equality before the law. It also moves the threshold from consent to penis, which is completely asinine, since there's no excuse for arguing that someone should be absolved of abrogation of consent, and gross invasion of someone elses' autonomy, solely based on the presence or lack of penis.

It's absolutely exceptional to even try to rationalize rape as "requiring a penis", since that's exactly the semantic dumbfuckery that enables asshole feminists to claim that "more women are raped than men!", when the CDC produces stats that clearly show that if the relevant threshold is "abrogation of consent", the number of victims per gender is very close to parity. Unfortunately, leading feminist sexual violence researchers like Mary P Koss (someone that assisted the FBI with it's 2011 redefinition of rape) is of the opinion that women can't rape men.

That bias infects the redefinition (which is still a million times better than the previous "unlawful carnal knowledge of a woman"), and directly impacts that wording used by agencies like the CDC, with bullshit like "forced to penetrate" used to describe an instance of a man being victimized by a woman, instead of "forcible engulfment" or "forcible envelopment". The former infers the onus is on the person with the penis, and the latter pair (correctly) place the onus on the perpetrator, the person engaged in the abrogation of consent and invasion of autonomy.

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Separately, there's at least one case in Pennsylvania judicial history that contains an element of digital penetration, but I don't understand enough about law to safely venture an opinion on the decision. It seems as though as least one member of the sitting SC of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania at the time dissented on digital penetration constituting sexual assault. Any of the kiwi legal commentators want to break it down for everyone in the gallery?

Seeming precedent - https://caselaw.findlaw.com/pa-supreme-court/1326019.html

Based on the Pennsylvania criminal code definitions I found (https://www.legis.state.pa.us/WU01/LI/LI/CT/HTM/18/00.031..HTM), it seems that the charge of indecent assault is a gimme, and it could have even been a charge of aggravated indecent assault, based on the non-responsive nature of the alleged victim, but I'm not certain if the above precedent would impact a ruling on the rape charge.

Spoiler: Relevant statutes, I think?

Anyways, better informed legal opinions should be brought to bear.
(Edit for typos, and to note the potential precedent is ALSO from Susquehanna County)

Additional edit for those suggesting "fight back" - the NIJ agrees with you that fighting back reduces the risk of a completed victimization - http://archive.is/xsc8V

 

[UQ 770]

I think the attacker is going to get a lighter sentence than a man, but that this case is probably gonna be the start of the legal system taking this stuff more seriously and we'll probably see #MeToo come full circle.

Edit since I felt like weighing in on this afterall:

The best way to stop someone from visiting violence on your person repeatedly is to return the favor hard enough that they are no longer physically capable of doing that. Laying there will not protect you from someone who decides to do more violence to you - you're basically crossing your fingers and hoping they don't like playing with their food, so to speak. That being said, yes, being wasted puts you at a huge disadvantage.

Then again, I'm not a woman. I get very, very angry and fighty in that kind of "cornered animal" situation, and apparently that's not particularly common with women.

I'm a pretty aggressive person myself, and it took me a pretty long time to realize that the vast majority of people seem to freeze up or cower when even the suggestion of violence is brought up. Like, I've had friends wince and look away just from some bloodless movie fight scenes purely because of the swiftness of the editing and the punching noises, either gender. I guess if you're not used to the idea of beating the shit out of someone, you first inclination is just to shut down and try to avoid a beating yourself. A lot of self-defense courses for wimps emphasize that you need to be in the right mindset to fight, otherwise nothing they teach you is going to help if you're just gonna freeze up.

 

[Alec Benson Leary]

I think the attacker is going to get a lighter sentence than a man, but that this case is probably gonna be the start of the legal system taking this stuff more seriously and we'll probably see #MeToo come full circle.

I think it's one more heavy straw on the camel's back. Like that case a year ago where a boy and a girl raced to the provost's office to accuse each other of rape, it showed how absurd it is that the feelings of whoever gets their first are presumed to matter more. I don't remember their names off the top of my head but most here know what I'm talking about, these ridiculous stories are piling up and it's going to have an effect longterm.

I'm a pretty aggressive person myself, and it took me a pretty long time to realize that the vast majority of people seem to freeze up or cower when even the suggestion of violence is brought up. Like, I've had friends wince and look away just from some bloodless movie fight scenes purely because of the swiftness of the editing and the punching noises, either gender. I guess if you're not used to the idea of beating the shit out of someone, you first inclination is just to shut down and try to avoid a beating yourself. A lot of self-defense courses for wimps emphasize that you need to be in the right mindset to fight, otherwise nothing they teach you is going to help if you're just gonna freeze up.

It also bears mentioning that when you're having sex or getting intimate with a person, you're generally at a place where you're trying to go along with what they want at least partially. That doesn't mean people who don't want to be there shouldn't say so or defend themselves, quite the opposite. But it does mean that if you're feeling bothered about an experience that was more of a gray area it doesn't mean your feelings are invalid because you didn't go into attack mode at the time. You're still responsible for speaking up and communicating with that person, but if a person wakes up with a heavier person on top of them pinning them down, it can be very difficult in the moment to decide just how to deal with it, especially when you're half asleep. Romantic partners can do that to each other and it might be no big deal so long as if one has a problem, the other acknowledges and respects that boundary going forward. I imagine it's different when you wake up pinned and groped by a roommate with whom there was no expectation of sexual activity on your part.

 

[Sīn the Moon Daddy]

It can result in unwanted STDs and children.

Unwanted STDs? Are there a kind that you do want?

 

[Hatoful Dandy]

I'm shocked it was even reported during Pride Month, which has lately become a month long Purge-like period for the worst of that community to do whatever they want.