Brenton Tarrant posts on 8chan, shoots up Mosque killing 49 muslims in New Zealand, livestreams from GoPro

Take away the Guns, Censor the Video, Throw people in Jail for Having the Video, or do it all?

  • Just take the guns, it'll work out fine.

    Votos: 65 5.9%
  • Doesn't matter, it's Trump's Fault.

    Votos: 271 24.4%
  • Just ban the video, it's totally doable.

    Votos: 39 3.5%
  • DO EVERYTHING!

    Votos: 207 18.6%
  • Make Null turn us over, that'll make us safe.

    Votos: 528 47.6%

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Germany and others have turned Muslims into a protected class out of fear of revenge attacks. Obama put some obscure film maker in jail for producing an Anti Muslim film that they claimed caused the Benghazi Attacks. Merkel and others are following his lead.

So basically get used to it..This is not the end by no means.

Obama had fucking nothing to do with that. The guy was already on probation for bank and credit card fraud and under orders not to use fake names, among other things, because of his previous crimes, and would have gone to prison with or without the events.
 
So what? Are you saying he's full of shit?
What I'm mostly saying is I don't see the camera picking him up at 8:08, or at 11:33, when the camera looks up those few steps into that pulpit area. A few pages back someone posted a shitload of pics of the pulpit area, so I looked at it in his camera view, which is admittedly terrible quality. I don't see the guy in there, and those pics a few pages back made it look like there was very little concealment up there, with that low railing/wall. Shooter got a good look up there at least twice, and didn't see anything worth shooting at either.

So I'm skeptical that the moslem could have been crouched down up there watching everything through a 'hole in the wood', but it's hard to say for sure with this video quality.
 
Oh great, NZ book stores are now making various books "temporarily" unavailable due to the shooting. For example Jordan Peterson's 12 rules for life. It's crazy how willing to make huge sweeping changes at the expense or everyone's rights they have been over this. ISP's blocking all the wrong think sites, remove all the guns and now book stores "voluntaraly" making certain books unavailable.

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Oh great, NZ book stores are now making various books "temporarily" unavailable due to the shooting. For example Jordan Peterson's 12 rules for life. It's crazy how willing to make huge sweeping changes at the expense or everyone's rights they have been over this. ISP's blocking all the wrong think sites, remove all the guns and now book stores "voluntaraly" making certain books unavailable.

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What the literal FUCK does that book have to do with ANYTHING? What kind of booksellers are these? They should fucking neck themselves. My only regret in never having heard of these pathetic pieces of subhuman garbage is that I can't boycott them forever.
 
Obama had fucking nothing to do with that. The guy was already on probation for bank and credit card fraud and under orders not to use fake names, among other things, because of his previous crimes, and would have gone to prison with or without the events.

His film was used by Susan Rice as the main reason for Benghazi. So he had to burn for that..They didn't charge him for unauthorized use of the internet. He was deemed a danger to the community by the judge and he went back to prison.
 
What the literal FUCK does that book have to do with ANYTHING? What kind of booksellers are these? They should fucking neck themselves. My only regret in never having heard of these pathetic pieces of subhuman garbage is that I can't boycott them forever.
Jordan B Peterson is white. He doesn't say whites are privileged and apologize for slavery or microtransactions at public University.

He's associated with Brenton because he's white. Just like how the BBC associated Laura Southern and Stephan Molyneux with Brenton because they went to Australia a few years ago and they didn't promote white guilt or reparations.

CNN and everyone else attacking Drumpf for being a "renewed symbol of white identity" because that fits their narrative. Brenton wrote the manifesto this way purposefully. He put in insane shit like that Spyro and Fortnite and Candace Owens were his inspirations, and then he says that Trump is his inspiration for a new white identity. The media's focus? Stephan Molyneux, Laura Southern, Donald Trump, fucking Tommy Robison, these are the inspirations that the BBC lists for rising right-wing Australian extremism.

This is all purposeful to bring forth the anti-white hatred so apparent in most mass media. It's obvious that they will pick out whatever they want that can be spun to their narrative, and the rest is insane garbage that's not worth reading into. The section I like is proof of my worldview and painting my opponents with a broad brush, the sections I don't were obviously jokes.
 
VICE News put out a pretty ironic piece:

It's about muslims (in america) who wants to carry guns to protect themselves from similar attacks, which is fine I guess. But above all it's about their reaction to the massacre of their fellow muslims, and it's there the irony levels reach pretty high. The main subject tells us how angry and powerless he felt seeing it, and encourages his fellow muslims to "take action not to be victims" and "continue to challenge the islamophobia that led to that horrific attack". So pretty much what a lot of westerners (and more) have been feeling the last years, but I'm quite certain he considers their reactions as islamophobia that leads to attacks like Tarrant's and should be dealt with.

It gets even worse when they show another speaker at ~4.30 and he rhetoric could have been taken straight out of Tarrant's manifesto. It's a call to fight back which is very reminiscent of what you would find on /pol/, but when our main subject is (very mildly) pushed on it, he says he's not concerned it's going to inspire "the average muslim" kid to become extremist (~2.50). Not the most reassuring words.
 
Oh great, NZ book stores are now making various books "temporarily" unavailable due to the shooting. For example Jordan Peterson's 12 rules for life.

That is rich coming from the book store that literally sells Mein Kampf:

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The ridiculous thing is they haven't really explained why it was removed from their inventory. They just say due to Christchurch massacre which isn't really a reason because Jordan Peterson's book and the massacre are not related. If this is about potential incitement then I think Mein Kampf has definitely incited way more people to commit violent acts than Jordan Peterson ever could.

EDIT: Stuff.co.nz updated their article about 15 minutes ago with reference to Mein Kampf still being available at Whitcoulls. Is it reasonable to think the author of that article was reading this thread? Or is it just a coincidence?
 
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What if I wanna use an 8 instead of a nine?
You are not allowed to go smaller. Use a nine, or use a ten, or use a foty five.

NZ book stores are now making various books "temporarily" unavailable due to the shooting. For example Jordan Peterson's 12 rules for life.
Praise Allah that something good is coming from this terrible tragedy that is so infringing on the gun rights of the faithful!

This better shot confirms no signficant damage to the Subaru's windshield other than the bullet holes.
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I wonder why the narrative changed from "fired two shots at him" to this demonstrably false "shattered his windshield".
Interesting. Probably just subhuman journo trash misreporting things. I will note that it's really, really hard to actually fully shatter a safety glass windscreen. You can smash a baseball bat or a tire iron right into one and it will not break too much glass away beyond the impact zone. It will cause cracks that make it a little harder to see through the rest of the windscreen but you can still drive fine, especially with one with that little damage.

Everyone already knows about this since the media has been on it nonstop. If anything, the media hit pieces and the endless gabbing by news stations has made it impossible not to keep up with the case. At this point, blurring photos and not using the name means nothing.
The name 'Brenton Tarrant' is now right up there with 'Omar Mateen'. Noone remembers the names of losers like Nick Cruz, but something like this is a little bit different.

That's like every semi-auto firearm. Does that only apply to rifles or pistols too? I mean, seriously, what semi-auto doesn't have a detachable mag that can hold more than five rounds?
Pistols are already severely restricted in NZ. You have to keep yours at a pistol club where you and your fat boomer mates regularly shoot, unless you're a cop who has multiple illegal pistols 'liberated' from drug dealers and bikkies over the years, in which case you just shoot them somewhere rural and don't worry about it. They pretty much couldn't make the pistol situation worse. No doubt the evil horse faced cunt will try later though.

Otherwise, yeah, we would moving to a position where pistol shooters would be stuck with early Mausers, Borchadts, and Steyr 1912s.

As far as rifles w/o detachable mags go, the SKS, in new-build Norinco form, is reasonably popular here, because they're cheap. They were previously restricted to 7 rounds, I believe- would need to be further restricted to 5 now which is typical from horse face and her faggot mates.

It will be interesting to see if serious modifications that would require cutting and welding to reverse are allowed where they might be practical on popular types like AR-15s and M-14s. If it's up to the cops who run the firearms units, it will be allowed. If it's up to disgusting horse faced cunts who worked for Tony Blair, it won't be.
 
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First, this attack pales in comparison to others in recent past. The Belsan School Seige killed over 300 people including 186 children at the hands of Chechnya Terrorists. The 2015 Terror Attack killed 130 innocent victims by ISIS terrorists. The Nice Truck Attack killed 86 people including 10 innocent children. My point? This cracker killed 49 Muslims, OK, there are 1.5 billion of them, and Islam is owed a few dead for the carnage it's caused across the globe..So, sorry, not sorry.

The government of New Zealand and Australia's response to this attack is not one of panic but rather a systematic and deliberate attack on its citizens by using fear and intimidation to curb civil liberties by offering no real proof of safety and security. The Democrat Left in my country has tried to use every mass shooting to try to scare people into giving up our 2nd Amendment Rights to own firearms for decades. No one who values freedom and liberty gives a fuck what they have to say because most of them have better armed security than our own president. So fuck them as well.

Mussies use any criticism of Islam as "Islamophobia" their word not mine, but whatever. You aren't telling us anything new in that respect. It's worthless propaganda who only silences pussies.

Most of us in here down care what the MSM is selling. So another dead horse gets beaten yet again.

If there are more than 100 Muslims living in any given country, you can fucking bet your life savings that two distinct societies already
exist and you can blame yourself and your fellow countrymen for letting that happen because elections have consequences. Anyone with a brain can see allowing Islam in any form to come into your country is setting it up for chaos and total submission by proxy.

The government actively protects Islam in Australia. The fact that New Zealand is willing to turn into a caliphate overnight isn't that surprising. Since New Zealand is just Australia Jr.

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It shows through this and through Islamic terrorists being ignored until the point they commit a terrorist act. That the government has a pattern of behavior of protecting and aiding the Muslim community. But I'm not sure why. Campaign donations? Corporate contracts?
 
Am I the only one that thinks that this is nothing earth-shattering?

New Zealand has never mattered, and will never matter on a global scale, just because they have some exceptional leadership doesn't mean that this will change anything.

It matters because NZ is mostly white and English-speaking, and as such has gotten listened to by the rest of such countries. The equivalent or worse in Christchurch has happened in DRC, Syria, Venezuela in the past couple weeks, something worse is probably happening right now, and for the most part, most of those caring about this wouldn't really care. You've got Muslims on the ground telling the NZ PM to fuck off with the hijab, and she doesn't care. You have white Christian SJWs informing the Turkish president playing the video IN TURKEY to an Islamic audience that that's uwu insensitive.

It's preposterous and pathetic.

Honestly, I'd like NZ to be regarded same as, say, Tonga right now. Indonesia. Thailand. The US, UK, Canada, EU would have no shits to give nor to be fair most of their citizens.
 
The change to the gun laws that's been made so far is really not that far reaching. All they've done so far is expanded the number of rifles and shotguns that will fall under the category of Military Style Semiautomatic (MSSA). Now, MSSA will include all centrefire rifles and shotguns capable of being used with a detachable magazine and a capacity of over 5 rounds. if your rifle or shotgun is rimfire, or has an integral magazine, or only detachable magazines with a capacity of 5 rounds or less are available, then it doesn't affect you.

What is still coming down the pipe is the legislative changes. My guess, is that with all of these extra firearms now reclassified as MSSAs, they'll move to ban all MSSAs. That will be the quickest and easiest legislative fix. They've also flagged "future proofing" the new legislation, to keep up with changes to technology. That means when some manufacturer comes out with an integral c-mag or some shit, it will be banned without any need for legislative changes.

It will be interesting to see where firearms like the AR15 end up. If magazines over 5 rounds are banned or heavily restricted, then is that enough to consider them incapable of being used with such magazines? You guys are still getting off relatively easy compared to Australia, where air rifles, semiauto. 22s and pump action shotguns all got nixed.
 
It matters because NZ is mostly white and English-speaking, and as such has gotten listened to by the rest of such countries. The equivalent or worse in Christchurch has happened in DRC, Syria, Venezuela in the past couple weeks, something worse is probably happening right now, and for the most part, most of those caring about this wouldn't really care. You've got Muslims on the ground telling the NZ PM to fuck off with the hijab, and she doesn't care. You have white Christian SJWs informing the Turkish president playing the video IN TURKEY to an Islamic audience that that's uwu insensitive.

It's preposterous and pathetic.

Honestly, I'd like NZ to be regarded same as, say, Tonga right now. Indonesia. Thailand. The US, UK, Canada, EU would have no shits to give nor to be fair most of their citizens.
Thanks to the government our rights have been changed, stripped and censored to accommodate Muslims and their safety. Immigration from Islamic countries is going to be laxed allowing more of them to migrate and they say it's a good thing for the sake of diversity and multiculturalism. I have my doubts. Remember devotees of Islam kill those who do not submit to Islam, who are considered to be infidels. With a religion that advocates violence, murder, enslavement or submission and many other negative things treat the ideology with caution and candidness
 
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His film was used by Susan Rice as the main reason for Benghazi. So he had to burn for that..They didn't charge him for unauthorized use of the internet. He was deemed a danger to the community by the judge and he went back to prison.

No, they charged him with violation of his probation that he was already on for bank fraud and credit card fraud and for lying to his probation officer, all of which he did.
 
You might land in shit for sharing the manifesto as it contains what could be argued as objectionable material and/or hate speech

Under Fair dealings, anything shout be able to get published if it was done so in a constructively transformative way.

We don't know what's legal until they
In their minds, what is the difference between a video that incites violence and a pamphlet that incites violence?

And, if I may put my broad, flat, wide-brimmed autism cap on: if they can block the websites that lead to the video, why can't they block the name that leads to the websites?
Because police shouldn't be thought police and tell people which books to burn. Jordan Peterson's 12 years for life got pulled off bookshelves recently in wake of the Christchurch attack.

To my understanding, they don't block the name of the shooter because it's used on the radio all the time, although later on more sparingly, understandably as now is a time for grief in NZ as it's coming up to the Friday after.

When **** contacted the DIA, the information which came back suggested that it's up to the office of film and literature to first advise the chief censor as to what to do with the manifesto.

There has already been an Official Information Act request to clarify the grey area surrounding the manifesto and censorship by ISPs and the government.

The broader picture is only being released in the days following the trial, as the OIA outdates his first trial.
 
So the police in N.Z have charged him with murder yet the person they claim he killed is very much alive oops.

This pretty much fits in with their general level of incompetence throughout the entire affair. They can be somewhat excused for that, but trying to censor the Internet to cover up their incompetence is not and they should never be allowed to forget this shit.
 
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