Brenton Tarrant posts on 8chan, shoots up Mosque killing 49 muslims in New Zealand, livestreams from GoPro

Take away the Guns, Censor the Video, Throw people in Jail for Having the Video, or do it all?

  • Just take the guns, it'll work out fine.

    Votos: 65 5.9%
  • Doesn't matter, it's Trump's Fault.

    Votos: 271 24.4%
  • Just ban the video, it's totally doable.

    Votos: 39 3.5%
  • DO EVERYTHING!

    Votos: 207 18.6%
  • Make Null turn us over, that'll make us safe.

    Votos: 528 47.6%

  • Total de votantes
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Anyone seen this? He traveled to many red flag countries yet wasn't on a watch list? Where is all the mass sirvelence data from FVEY going?

Towards people who post frog memes and smug anime girls on imageboards, or people who call journalists fags. You know, the real threats in the world today.
 
They can't change the narrative now. That's what the shooter was counting on. They're invested in this. Politicians, corporations, media. They can't just turn around and say. "Oh yeah remember how White Supremacists are everywhere just waiting to blow up shit? Actually we were lying, it's the opposite." They've got the data, they already know what's happening.

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yea right, im gonna need a source for that.
 
Towards people who post frog memes and smug anime girls on imageboards, or people who call journalists fags. You know, the real threats in the world today.

Top three threats I currently consider possible and real outcomes.
1.Loss of internet freedom / autonomy / privacy.
2.Loss of right to posess weapons.
3.Loss of rights to speak freely and not be persecuted for my opinions or beliefs.
 
To be fair, weren't a bunch of those in the Middle East?

Yes, but how many IRA attacks are there in Western countries? Virtually none.

Just last November in Australia.
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The Australian Islamic Council is lobbying for Sharia law
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And Sharia community courts already operate secretly in Muslim majority areas.
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All the info is there if you care to look.
 

Several major Australian telecom companies blocked access to many websites accused of hosting and contributing to the dissemination of footage of the Christchurch, New Zealand, terrorist attack on two mosques last Friday.

According to Nine News, Telstra—the country’s largest telecommunications company—blocked access to 4chan, 8chan, Voat, the blog Zerohedge and hosting platform LiveLeak on Tuesday. The sites were also unavailable on Optus and Vodafone networks, although the companies had not confirmed the names of the sites they had blocked.

Telstra released a statement in which Networks and IT Executive Nikos Katinakis explained, “We understand this may inconvenience some legitimate users of these sites, but these are extreme circumstances, and we feel this is the right thing to do.”

The block on 4chan was lifted after a few hours, Nine News said, but the other websites remained inaccessible.

Brenton Tarrant, 28, was accused of murdering 50 people at two mosques in Christchurch last Friday, in what authorities described as a white supremacist terrorist attack. The Australian citizen live-streamed his attack on Facebook, and the footage quickly spread across the internet.

New Zealand police and Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern asked people not to share the graphic video. Companies tried to scrub copies from the internet as the world reacted to the massacre but struggled to keep up with its spread.

A spokesperson for Vodafone said that the company would only usually block access to a site on the request of law enforcement or the courts, but that this “was an extreme case which we think requires an extraordinary response… While there were discussions at an industry level about this issue, this is a decision Vodafone Australia came to independently,” the statement said. Optus said it made its decision after “reflecting on community expectations.”

The Australian Communications Alliance also cited “extraordinary circumstances” for the ISPs’ decision to block the websites, noting the companies had been working to “minimize any inconvenience that may arise from legitimate content being blocked,” which it called an “unavoidable, temporary consequence.”

Lawmakers and activists across the globe called on social media companies and other sites to do more to block and remove extremist content in the aftermath of the Christchurch attack. Given that the shootings were streamed live on Facebook, the social media giant came in for additional criticism.

There has not yet been any suggestion that U.S. companies may follow the example being set in Australia. Floyd Abrams, a senior counsel at Cahill Gordon & Reindel LLP in New York and a First Amendment expert, told Newsweek that ISPs in the U.S. would be within their rights to block sites if they so wished.

“The First Amendment applies only to the government, so the decision of telecoms about what to carry could not violate the First Amendment any more than a decision of a newspaper or magazine could,” he explained. “One could argue about whether it violates the spirit of the First Amendment for the telecoms to have made that decision. I view it as a debatable but entirely rational editorial decision.”

LiveLeak—well-known for hosting graphic videos of combat and violent crime—had already said it would not host footage from the Christchurch attack. It said the video was made by a “psychopath,” and that it did not wish to be “a vehicle of choice for those who carry these events out.”

I just don't get why these people are so hellbent on censoring a video of a massacre when there are equally horrifying videos of other massacres and deaths that have been up on the internet for a long time. That's just my take on this.

Oh god, as I was copying this article, I managed to catch a bit that widened my eyes:

"The First Amendment applies only to the government..."

That is honestly horrifying
 
"The First Amendment applies only to the government..."
"The First Amendment applies only to the government..."
"The First Amendment applies only to the government..."
"The First Amendment applies only to the government..."
"The First Amendment applies only to the government..."
"The First Amendment applies only to the government..."
"The First Amendment applies only to the government..."
"The First Amendment applies only to the government..."
 
I am a bit of a map sperg.. Can't upload KMZ file, but here's a bit of detail. Looking for where Tarrant was caught, but haven't found it yet.
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At this point I feel like NZ wants the video primarily because their response time was foul. I thought New Zealand was one of the countries that the US did joint police training with, this attack just caught them completely off guard and they choked.

I would say that the people in the first mosque couldn't have been saved by more timely police action, but the second mosque is completely inexcusable from a public safety standpoint. There are three mosques/islamic centers in Christchurch. You have reports of shooting at one of them. I feel very strongly that the correct response would be to deploy armed officers to the other two at the very least and send armed officers and medical first response to the site of the shooting. I can't honestly believe they didn't receive reports that the Tarrant was on the move.

Wikipedia dijo:
The NZ Police are accountable for the operational response to threats to national security, including terrorism. If an incident escalates to a level where their internal resources are unable to adequately deal with the issue (for example, a major arms encounter or a significant terrorist threat), the Police Incident Controller may call on extra assistance from the New Zealand Defence Force and in particular NZ's Special Forces, the military focused New Zealand Special Air Service and terrorism focused Commando Squadron (D Squadron). Control of the incident remains with police throughout. As of 2009, the two military counter terrorist units have never been deployed in a domestic law-enforcement operation. Military resources such as Light Armoured Vehicles have been used and requested before, such as during the 2009 Napier shootings, and Royal New Zealand Air Force helicopters from No. 3 Squadron are often used to assist in search and rescue and cannabis eradication operations.
In 1964, the Armed Offenders Squad (AOS) was created to provide a specialist armed response unit, similar to the Metropolitan Police Service's SC&O19 in the United Kingdom. In addition to the AOS, the New Zealand Police maintain a full-time counter-terrorist unit, the Special Tactics Group (STG). Similar to the FBI's Hostage Rescue Team, the STG train in dynamic entry and other tactics vital in high-risk situations. The STG train with the SAS and are the last line of law enforcement response available before a police Incident Controller calls in support from the military.

I dunno, I guess I'm just frustrated that the man was able to drive down a major road with a blown to shit windshield past a police station with absolutely nothing there to stop him from claiming, what, 9 more lives?
 
Yes, but how many IRA attacks are there in Western countries? Virtually none.

Just last November in Australia.
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The Australian Islamic Council is lobbying for Sharia law
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And Sharia community courts already operate secretly in Muslim majority areas.
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All the info is there if you care to look.
The last article you linked said that all these things done under Sharia law aren't valid in the eyes of the state and are simply personal decisions, including divorce. The middle article states openly that many other Muslims disagreed with his proposal to introduce Sharia law to parts of the legal system, including those on the council. Australia rejected it on all counts. I think you're overblowing this a bit.

>Chief Censor
JOG ON, THOUGHT POLICE
This definitely isn't a new thing, New Zealand and Australia have long been pretty censor happy.
 
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