Science Man told he's going to die by robot doctor - Ahh technology!


A doctor in California told a patient he was going to die using a robot with a video-link screen.
Ernest Quintana, 78, was at Kaiser Permanente Medical Center in Fremont when a doctor - appearing on the robot's screen - informed him that he would die within a few days.
A family friend wrote on social media that it was "not the way to show value and compassion to a patient".
The hospital says it "regrets falling short" of the family's expectations.
Mr Quintana died the next day.
Julianne Spangler, a friend of Mr Quintana's daughter, posted a photo of the robot on Facebook and said it "told [Mr Quintana] he has no lungs left only option is comfort care, remove the mask helping him breathe and put him on a morphine drip until he dies".
She later told BBC News that it was "an extremely frustrating situation", and "an atrocity of how care and technology are colliding".
"I think the technological advances in medicine have been wonderful, but the line of 'where' and 'when' need to be black and white," she added.
Mr Quintana's granddaughter, Annalisa Wilharm, who was with him at the hospital, also told the BBC that she was "trying not to cry".
"I look up and there's this robot at the door," she said, adding that the doctor on the screen "looked like he was in a chair in a room somewhere".
"The next thing I know he's telling him, 'I got these MRI results back and there's no lungs left, there's nothing to work with'. I'm freaking out inside, I'm trying not to cry - I'm trying not to scream because it's just me and him."
She added: "He just got the worst news of his life without his wife of 58 years."
When Mr Quintana's wife arrived, she complained to hospital staff about how the news was broken to her husband. Annalisa Wilharm said that Mr Quintana's wife was told by a nurse "this is our policy, this is how we do things".
'We fell short'
Michelle Gaskill-Hames, senior vice-president of Kaiser Permanente Greater Southern Alameda County, said in a statement that its policy was to have a nurse or doctor in the room when remote consultations took place.
"The evening video tele-visit was a follow-up to earlier physician visits," she added. "It did not replace previous conversations with patient and family members and was not used in the delivery of the initial diagnosis."
She added: "That said, we don't support or encourage the use of technology to replace the personal interactions between our patients and their care teams - we understand how important this is for all concerned, and regret that we fell short of the family's expectations.
"We will use this as an opportunity to review how to improve patient experience with tele-video capabilities."

The hospital should have remembered the words of Dr Ian Malcolm. 'Your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they didn’t stop to think if they should.'
 
I saw that headline and thought it meant that someone told him that a robot doctor was going to kill him.


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I thought the same thing. Like, he's just about to go under for a surgery and this robot doctor pops up saying "I've calculated you will have a 20% chance of survival during this surgery."
 
If robot cars will run over black pedestrians more frequently, then will robot doctors give bad prognoses to black patients more frequently?
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"We will use this as an opportunity to review how to improve patient experience with tele-video capabilities."

Nigger, this isn't difficult. Tell them in PERSON. You autistic fucks.
 
Man, the headline really made it sound a lot better than an iPad on a skateboard dropping bombshells that apparently shouldn't have come as a surprise at all to the patient.
 
"We will use this as an opportunity to review how to improve patient experience with tele-video capabilities."

Nigger, this isn't difficult. Tell them in PERSON. You autistic fucks.
Ive heard a huge part of inflated health care costs especially in America is that hospitals keep running as a business and buying all this expensive stupid high tech shit (sometimes just for appearances) even when they may be using older models of actual important medical machines, and this response just highlights it. They sometimes try to pass the cost off on the customer since "insurances will cover it".

"We got ridiculed for using this robot, so instead of just not using the robot like people are telling us to, next time we'll make the robot come in with a cute jingle and a smile and tell a joke first! -- I mean we already got the robot, IDGAF you know how annoying it is to return those things?"
 
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Ive heard a huge part of inflated health care costs especially in America is that hospitals keep running as a business and buying all this expensive stupid high tech shit (sometimes just for appearances) even when they may be using older models of actual important medical machines, and this response just highlights it.

"We got ridiculed for using this robot, so instead of just not using the robot like people are telling us to, next time we'll make the robot come in with a cute jingle and a smile and tell a joke first! -- I mean we already got the robot, IDGAF you know how annoying it is to return those things?"
A big problem is insurance. Malpractice insurance is ludicrously expensive, and hospitals boost costs to keep their massive paychecks. That and the pharma industry being corrupt as all shit.

Did you know there's a cure for heroin addiction? Takes twenty-four hours, removes all physical symptoms. It's banned because no company will pay for FDA trials. It's more profitable to treat the addiction, than cure it. It's these reasons that a lot of people don't trust doctors, or vaccines. They're seen as fucking greedy niggers that don't care about people.
 
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