i wasn’t expecting this... 2/12/19

[Malibougie]

There are ways she could do just that and get views... probably even more views than she has now. She's talked about her legs so much and how she hates them and was nervous for even a doctor to see them. If she made a non clickbait video showing them off, she'd probably make 3 months of income off of one video. She could also be honest about her struggles with hygiene, how often she has to go to the bathroom with her massive calorie intake, etc. People are interested in that kind of thing because it's abnormal and, yes, grotesque.

When she admitted recently that she has to sleep sitting up and can't even lie down, talking about that kind of stuff can really rake in the views without her having to do this fake dieting/lying bullshit.

This is from a few pages back, sorry. But she really could rake in a lot showing the daily life and real struggles, and what it is really like to be 600lbs. Not some glitter version of everything is is fine. Show the legs, show the gnarly skin fold infections and maintenance, show the poop wiping stick. Show people what’s behind the curtain. Because beyond hate watching because she keeps failing at diets people also watch because she is an oddity, a curiosity. People do want to know what life is like. A she needs is to switch to not claiming diets, stop dieting, stop lying, get some humility and show what her life is really like.

I think that AL should go to prison. She would lose weight, she would definitely be put in her place and maybe she would find her humility there. She could also find her next gf. It’s win win.

 

[L. Ron Hubbard's Cat]

Honestly alot of people who are morbidly obese though are only fat because of their own very stupid life choices. Not emotional problems, but simply 'but excercise is boring so I don't do it' coupled with a 4000 calorie a day diet.

I mean... you're not wrong. Lots of people just can't be bothered/don't feel the need to make an effort.

That said, I personally think there's a case to be made that anyone who wants to change something about themselves, but who legitimately can't, probably needs some kind of professional intervention. Either they need to figure out what's stopping them, or come to the realization that they're actually pretty happy the way they are. Most people are incapable of honest self-reflection to that degree, unless they have some kind of help holding up the mirror.

I don't think AL sincerely wants to change. I'm sure she'd love to be thinner, but she doesn't want anything else to be different.

Most people develop better self-control as they age, but not Hamber.

Shivvypop (YouTube haydur) mentioned this recently, but I've heard it before as well: Conventional wisdom holds that addicts stop maturing at the age where they develop their addiction. This makes sense, if you think of the addiction as a way to avoid processing emotions (and thus, learning from your experiences and growing up a little at a time).

If you become an alcoholic at 23, you have the emotional maturity of a 23 year old forever (unless you get sober and start working on that kind of thing).

If you're eating away your feelings by the age of 12...

 

[Malibougie]

She thinks that all of these bad things happen to her right? She plays the victim to others and to herself. It’s not until she actually realizes that it’s her getting in her own way and that yes bad things happen , but most of it she has a part in- except for anything that happened to her as a kid. But she’s not a kid anymore and she can’t keep holding on to that. She has to come to terms with it and let it go if she is ever going to move forward in any way.

 

[Teresa77]

I'm still not exactly clear what happened with Optavita. AL says it was working great, but even though it was she decided she wanted to quit because....? Was it because she saw other people eating food she couldn't have? Or because of a few nasty fuelings? I just don't see how she jumped from point A (this is wonderful) to point B (I need to get off this).

 

[ADHD]

She thinks it's dangerous for someone of her size to subsist on only 900 calories a day. Never mind that the food is supposed to be packed full of vitamins/etc to make sure her nutritional needs are being met, never mind that she's got enough calories stored up to last her for years, it freaked her out and that's the end of it.

 

[Masta]

I'm still not exactly clear what happened with Optavita. AL says it was working great, but even though it was she decided she wanted to quit because....? Was it because she saw other people eating food she couldn't have? Or because of a few nasty fuelings? I just don't see how she jumped from point A (this is wonderful) to point B (I need to get off this).

From my pov, she lied, she kept insisting it is working when it was clearly not.
It’s been a minute since I’ve watched, but it went something like she said it didn’t make her hungry or crave, she was lying because either it was placebo for a minute, but later contradicted her self by saying she wanted to binge.
She continues to shill out this program as god almighty, because she doesn’t want to look wrong after making videos about it.

From this video it is clear, losing weight is not a priority, optivia was just something to rack in some YouTube bucks, and she really has no plan, she will continue eating until she is forced to stop.

 

[mekalekahi]

I cannot wait for the next time Amber to gets on Younow , that is when her prime delusion and anger really comes out. The chat will be filled with optavia, D&D engagment and her being chair/bed bound and she will combust from trying to fight with everyone.

 

[Munchma Quchi]

She also said in her video that she was looking for any excuse to quit, so she found one.

The 900 calories could have been any excuse. It doesn't matter. If it were a 1200 calorie plan, it would have been the 6 meal format. If it were a 3 meal format, it would have been the processed foods. If it were whole foods, it would have been having to cook them. She just needed any excuse and she even admitted it.

 

[497]

I wonder how many calories AL thinks she needs... she's a dainty 5'2"-5'3". she'll never be active at the gym or with exercising so the most she would need is around 2000 to maintain if she ever got to 170lbs and being slightly active.

 

[JambledUpWords]

I wonder how many calories AL thinks she needs... she's a dainty 5'2"-5'3". she'll never be active at the gym or with exercising so the most she would need is around 2000 to maintain if she ever got to 170lbs and being slightly active.

Based on what she eats in a day, 2000 calories would be “starving” to her. She thinks that if she doesn’t eat enough, that it will ruin her metabolism (as if she isn’t already ruining it). Any attempt at trying to reason with her about food/exercise is moot because she doesn’t desire to change, isn’t humble enough to see what she’s doing wrong, and she is unwilling to go to an actual therapist in person that won’t just kiss up to her. Just regular therapy appointments regarding her relationship with food would do wonders but she doesn’t want to have to admit she’s been wrong all this time. Her ego is too big for that (along with the rest of herself).

 

[ADHD]

Based on what she eats in a day, 2000 calories would be “starving” to her.

So is 3000, apparently, since she couldn't manage to stick to that during her IG dietician saga.

 

[JambledUpWords]

So is 3000, apparently, since she couldn't manage to stick to that during her IG dietician saga.

If she really wants to starve, she could go to Haiti. She has no idea what actually starving feels like or looks like. She doesn’t realize how blessed she is to have such abundances of food at her disposal.

 

[Mr Foster]

If she really wants to starve, she could go to Haiti. She has no idea what actually starving feels like or looks like. She doesn’t realize how blessed she is to have such abundances of food at her disposal.

Ironically, starving in Haiti might save her life.

 

[Bitchboy95]

I'm still not exactly clear what happened with Optavita. AL says it was working great, but even though it was she decided she wanted to quit because....? Was it because she saw other people eating food she couldn't have? Or because of a few nasty fuelings? I just don't see how she jumped from point A (this is wonderful) to point B (I need to get off this).

AL is morbidly obese and loves to eat, that's why she quit Optavia...and Weight Watchers, and Intuitive eating, and counting calories, and everything else. It wasn't because the replacement bars tasted awful, or Destiny got engaged , or drama with Becky's family, or eating only 900 calories. She's fat and loves food. There's no mystery here. Nothing to figure out.

 

[Long time lurker]

Just regular therapy appointments regarding her relationship with food would do wonders

Although many disagree on the flavour, we mostly agree that Amber is firmly into the Cluster B spectrum. Not many therapists want anything to do with those people. Because of things like you posted:

but she doesn’t want to have to admit she’s been wrong all this time. Her ego is too big for that

 

[a834604]

Hamber doesn't have Binge Eating Disorder. Jesus flying fuck why do you people keep saying she does? You are feeding her delusional state. At this point people doing that might as well be her official White fucking Knights on the forums.

She has -never- binged. Not once. She's fat, and she eats constantly. A binge implies some one you know, doing a binge. Like randomly wolfing down two large pizzas. Hamber plans every thing out. She has substituted food for intimacy, approaching her emotional stress like a mature adult. But she never binges. She's an addict, but not really to food. It's just she's never had the drugs like Meth etc or the pressure to try. I have no doubt had that been her coping mechanism early on, she'd by now be a full blown crackwhore or some thing vile.

She took fantasy play time to far in her head as a kid, and used food to cope. Then because of youtube, she could make money playing dainty princess and grazing 24/7. Human instinct is to feel panic when you become incapable of basic movement. Her problems lie in her delusional state. She has moments of clarity I'm sure. Her manic episode about this diet? A chance to unfuck her weight? It lasted 2 days at most then she replaced the creeping realization of failure with her addiction. But she isn't suffering Binge Eating Disorder. She never binges. She steadily consumes day to day, the same massive caloric intake.

Late to the party, yadda yadda yadda, but one huge difference between patients with BED and food addicts/compulsive over eaters is the types of food. Usually food addicts/COEs eat tasty foods, like junk food, restaurants, sweets etc because it gives the best "high". People suffering with BED might eat anything in sight during an episode. I've heard stories of patients mixing sugar and butter and eating it when not finding anything else. They eat out of the trash, they eat raw flour, huge amounts of vegetables, even stuff like those "fueling" shakes and bars. Nothing is inedible during an episode, if it's food-ish, it's going down. Amber is more picky with her food, it's always restaurants, fast food, chips, chocolate and poor Becky has to get it in order for Amber to binge. I'm basing this on what she tells and shows, idk if she has secret flour eating parties behind the scenes. But from what she shows, being able to have large amounts of food expire (like the protein bars, a BED patient would have eaten those in a heartbeat during an episode) and forcing Becky to get food in order for her to binge, she is either a food addict or compulsive over eater (more likely the latter). BED diagnosis needs clearly having binges, episodes that are very different from the patient's normal eating. It's like having a seizure because you have an infection in your brain vs having epilepsy, similar symptoms but different causes.

 

[Guardsman42]

I remember reading some where <way back in time days here, like high school years when AOL was still cool, to give a time frame if you go looking> about a kid's cousin who went into an utter panic over food when people were at their work etc. Kid didn't know how to cook any thing, so he took a giant can of corn beef hash, you know, a family size one. Well, he bashed that open with a paving stone outside on their patio and ate it.

Some one with Binge Eating Disorder does shit like that. Hamber never has, nor ever will have B.E.D. She's BEDbound though. Furthermore, the food addiction she suffers now is entirely from processed food chemicals. It's a proven fact if you consume them routinely, your body gets addicted to food additives. She will quite literally be depressed with out <insert a fast food run> in her hands daily, and rest assured, she daily has such things.

 

[DubbleBubble]

Furthermore, the food addiction she suffers now is entirely from processed food chemicals. It's a proven fact if you consume them routinely, your body gets addicted to food additives. She will quite literally be depressed with out <insert a fast food run> in her hands daily, and rest assured, she daily has such things.

This. exactly this. A lot of people who grew up with responsible parents who taught them how to eat healthily, or just your average non Americans don't really get this. When you're raised practically from birth to eat fast food garbage... you NEED it. Your body craves it just the same as someone who takes tons of caffeine or sugar craves and will go into painful withdrawel without it.

I know all about being raised on mcdonalds and similar garbage with zero education about health, god bless the south... When you first try to eat non processed, non sugar and fat loaded foods it tastes at best like plastic, and at worst like dirt. You wonder how people eat non processed food because it tastes like garbage. And if you don't have someone in your life to keep you on track and w.e.a.n you off the junk food you will just go right back to it.

 

[Barbarella]

That’s not addiction though, it’s just what a person is used to. I’m the opposite, grew up eating only healthy foods, god bless California. . If you give me a McDonalds burger I wonder how people can eat stuff that clearly doesn’t taste like food.

But if I was on a desert island with nothing but fast food I’d get used to it and my likes would probably change. I’d crave a salad or peach fresh off the tree desperately but it’s not the same as addiction. Same as people learning to eat healthy. Their taste buds are used to one thing and after months of fruits and veggies they might go crazy wanting a fast food burger. But it’s not an addiction, nobody is hospitalized or has seizures when they don’t get what they like.

My point is we use the word addiction in regards to food too freely and it gives fats an out. “Oh, I can’t help it, I’m addicted...”not true. Nothing in food is addictive but the world was built on the spice trade. We like flavors. Chemical additives are there to mimic flavors and preserve food, they are not addictive like heroin.

That’s not to say it’s easy to change lifelong habits, it isn’t. But that’s not quite what addiction is.

 

[clusterfuckk]

If she really wants to starve, she could go to Haiti. She has no idea what actually starving feels like or looks like. She doesn’t realize how blessed she is to have such abundances of food at her disposal.

Or she could get her ass of YouTube for a bit. No abundance of easy money rolling in means less trips to the CF. But LEZBEREAL pigs will fly before that happens.