Who was the worst US President? - In your opinion, who was the worst US President?

[AnOminous]

Theodore Roosevelt would have shitposted on twitter even harder than Trump.

It would have been good, though, not just wall to wall illiterate faggotry.

 

[Kirito]

It would have been good, though, not just wall to wall illiterate faggotry.

You don't understand the nuance and intellect it takes to talk about the constant negative press covfefe, or comment on the society we live in where only fat people drink diet coke.

 

[escapegoat]

Harding. The guy who admitted he was unfit for office.

The only good thing he ever did was inspire one of history's greatest burns:

His speeches left the impression of an army of pompous phrases moving over the landscape in search of an idea; sometimes these meandering words would actually capture a straggling thought and bear it triumphantly as a prisoner in their midst, until it died of servitude and overwork.

 

[Darwin Watterson]

I hear this a lot about Dubya but in his situation he was going to be unpopular and fucked whatever he did.

Fair enough. I myself am sick to death of that bullshit narrative of "Dubya destroyed the country and Obama fixed it."

 

[Muncie Anderson]

Would William Henry Harrison count, or does the fact that he died just thirty-one days into his term disqualify him from "worst President ever"?

 

[Kirito]

Would William Henry Harrison count, or does the fact that he died just thirty-one days into his term disqualify him from "worst President ever"?

Most people exclude him from historical rankings. I think he was objectively the worst.

 

[Khayyam]

Trump.

Not because I think the democrats are any good, Bernie was the least of a cunt of all the candidates going last time and Hilary is vile but he still wasn't a good choice.

I'm more bothered by the United Nations research that finds since Trump took office, among other points.....

• In the US there are 40 million people here who live in poverty, while 18.5 million live in extreme poverty and 5.3 million are in Third World conditions. That's right folks, there are more people in Thrid World conditions in the US than several African "Shitholes" as described by the God Emperor.
  
• Out of the OECD, the States have the highest youth poverty rates.
• Citizens are sicker and live shorter lives than in other well-off democracies.
• The U.S. has the highest rate of income inequality in the West.

https://documents-dds-ny.un.org/doc/UNDOC/GEN/G18/125/30/PDF/G1812530.pdf?OpenElement

American Politics are fucked up, and the electorate and media appears obsessed with "The Issues" like abortion, gays, prayer in schools etc and not the shit that actually matters. Not that these things don't have a place in the discussion elsewhere in the world, they do, but the US...Man. For the worlds self-dubbed no.1# you guys suck looking after your own. Sure there was poverty under Obama, he wasn't a messianic hero and I'm far from a fan, but things have gotten worse where it had been receeding under his tenure.

You've had plenty of shitstain leaders who u-turn on their promises and fuck the electorate silly, Trump isn't uniqiue in that aspect, but he's certainly the most destructive for a long time.

As for best...Um...Honorable mention for Washington I suppose, though I'd probably have gone for Lincoln or Roosevelt.

 

[Replicant Sasquatch]

• In the US there are 40 million people here who live in poverty, while 18.5 million live in extreme poverty and 5.3 million are in Third World conditions. That's right folks, there are more people in Thrid World conditions in the US than several African "Shitholes" as described by the God Emperor.
  
• Out of the OECD, the States have the highest youth poverty rates.
• Citizens are sicker and live shorter lives than in other well-off democracies.
• The U.S. has the highest rate of income inequality in the West.

None of these are things which magically happened in the past year and a half since Trump took office and none of them have gotten particularly better or worse since. It's fucking braindead to assign blame for decades-long trends on the current President. We'll see how things are at the end of his first (and probably second if the Dems keep being morons) term.

As for comparing our poverty rates to Africa or some shit, fucking learn how numbers work. There's 350 million people in the US and 5 million living in "Third World conditions" which is 1.5% of the total US population. Compared with say, the Congo, where there's 78 million people and 78 million are living in Third World conditions.

I'm not a big fan of Trump either but if you wanna bring your Eurofag sensibilities to an American politics thread at least learn how American politics work.

 

[Khayyam]

None of these are things which magically happened in the past year and a half since Trump took office and none of them have gotten particularly better or worse since. It's fucking braindead to assign blame for decades-long trends on the current President. We'll see how things are at the end of his first (and probably second if the Dems keep being morons) term.

Nuking Obamacare for one. Sure, it wasn't good but it was something. He just gave the most vulnerable in your society a big fuck you after promising to help them.

https://www.cbpp.org/research/feder...s-health-housing-other-assistance-for-low-and

Trump's fantastic for the upper end of your society, but it wasn't the upper tier of society that formed the bulk of his voting block. He fucked them. Not the first politician to do so, won't be the last, but he's the most open about fucking them and making a virtue of it which is pretty sickening.

As for comparing our poverty rates to Africa or some shit, fucking learn how numbers work. There's 350 million people in the US and 5 million living in "Third World conditions" which is 1.5% of the total US population. Compared with say, the Congo, where there's 78 million people and 78 million are living in Third World conditions.

A percentage which the UN has highlighted is on a continuous rise since the rise of the Trump administration, where it had been falling. In other words, your standard of living is regressing unlike Africa where the same UN reports suggest it generally is on the rise.

For a few other comparisons where the US is far behind the rest of the developed world https://qz.com/879092/the-us-doesnt-look-like-a-developed-country/

I'm not a big fan of Trump either but if you wanna bring your Eurofag sensibilities to an American politics thread at least learn how American politics work.

I know enough to know you voted in someone who's doing pretty much the opposite of what he promised.

I appreciate American politics are skewed and very different from the rest of the world, but that to me is just more of a sign of how extreme and warped they've become (the fact everyone kept calling Bernie a socialist I personally find hilarious; he'd be well on the right wing pretty much anywhere else in the western world).

If the democrats are radical leftists I can't wait to see what happens if Britain implodes and Trump ends up sharing a podium with Comrade Corbyn.

 

[Rand /pol/]

Trump.

Not because I think the democrats are any good, Bernie was the least of a cunt of all the candidates going last time and Hilary is vile but he still wasn't a good choice.

I'm more bothered by the United Nations research that finds since Trump took office, among other points.....

• In the US there are 40 million people here who live in poverty, while 18.5 million live in extreme poverty and 5.3 million are in Third World conditions. That's right folks, there are more people in Thrid World conditions in the US than several African "Shitholes" as described by the God Emperor.
  
• Out of the OECD, the States have the highest youth poverty rates.
• Citizens are sicker and live shorter lives than in other well-off democracies.
• The U.S. has the highest rate of income inequality in the West.

https://documents-dds-ny.un.org/doc/UNDOC/GEN/G18/125/30/PDF/G1812530.pdf?OpenElement

American Politics are fucked up, and the electorate and media appears obsessed with "The Issues" like abortion, gays, prayer in schools etc and not the shit that actually matters. Not that these things don't have a place in the discussion elsewhere in the world, they do, but the US...Man. For the worlds self-dubbed no.1# you guys suck looking after your own. Sure there was poverty under Obama, he wasn't a messianic hero and I'm far from a fan, but things have gotten worse where it had been receeding under his tenure.

You've had plenty of shitstain leaders who u-turn on their promises and fuck the electorate silly, Trump isn't uniqiue in that aspect, but he's certainly the most destructive for a long time.

As for best...Um...Honorable mention for Washington I suppose, though I'd probably have gone for Lincoln or Roosevelt.

The US isn't really comparable to Europe because we're both democracies. The US is not ethnically homogeneous, Europe is. European countries are often smaller and can spend less on infrastructure and roads. Most European countries border peaceful countries and have very little immigration (compared to the US, which borders a war torn narco state).

 

[Replicant Sasquatch]

Nuking Obamacare for one. Sure, it wasn't good but it was something. He just gave the most vulnerable in your society a big fuck you after promising to help them.

https://www.cbpp.org/research/feder...s-health-housing-other-assistance-for-low-and

Trump's fantastic for the upper end of your society, but it wasn't the upper tier of society that formed the bulk of his voting block. He fucked them. Not the first politician to do so, won't be the last, but he's the most open about fucking them and making a virtue of it which is pretty sickening.


A percentage which the UN has highlighted is on a continuous rise since the rise of the Trump administration, where it had been falling. In other words, your standard of living is regressing unlike Africa where the same UN reports suggest it generally is on the rise.

For a few other comparisons where the US is far behind the rest of the developed world https://qz.com/879092/the-us-doesnt-look-like-a-developed-country/




I know enough to know you voted in someone who's doing pretty much the opposite of what he promised.

I appreciate American politics are skewed and very different from the rest of the world, but that to me is just more of a sign of how extreme and warped they've become (the fact everyone kept calling Bernie a socialist I personally find hilarious; he'd be well on the right wing pretty much anywhere else in the western world).

If the democrats are radical leftists I can't wait to see what happens if Britain implodes and Trump ends up sharing a podium with Comrade Corbyn.

I know whatever Nordic Caliphate you inhabit has the welfare state thing down pat but the United States doesn't and Trump's not to blame for that. Our problems with government assistance come from the fact it isn't managed properly, not from lack of spending. Trump's trimming the fat, and maybe one day someone will make it work. I don't know if I want that to happen since for all Europe likes to jerk itself off over its government assistance that seems like it's come at the cost of pretty much every personal freedom we take for granted over here.

 

[Mrs Paul]

Trump isn't Hitler. He's Kaiser Wilhelm.

I voted Nixon. (Not just for Watergate, I mean the dude was so fucking paranoid he had the IRS investigating his "enemies").

Andrew Jackson's "Fuck the Supreme Court!" and his treatment of Native Americans was pretty shitty.

John Adams had his "Alien and Sedition Act". Dude, you helped write the freaking Constitution and right away you go against it?

 

[Fareal]

You guys are so hard on Nixon. He got you out of Vietnam, he normalised your relations with China, he put a man on the moon!

Sure he destroyed democracy in Chile, but fucking up a foreign country is practically compulsory for a modern US president.

Cut the man a break. You’ve elected worse.

 

[Pikonic]

John Adams

 

[Crunchy Leaf]

C'mon...we all know it's James Buchanan.

You guys are so hard on Nixon. He got you out of Vietnam, he normalised your relations with China, he put a man on the moon!

Sure he destroyed democracy in Chile, but fucking up a foreign country is practically compulsory for a modern US president.

Cut the man a break. You’ve elected worse.

And he's responsible for the EPA!

 

[Pervious]

I'd say either Lincoln or JFK, they both said they'd serve a full term.

Seriously though I'm not an American so I have limited knowledge on the subject but it seems to me GWB was the worst in recent years. Much as I like him as a person between Iraq 2: Electrocuted Hussienabu, no child left behind, and his economic policy Bush was a pretty bad president. I grant you Bush held office in one of the hardest times to do so since the civil war given the dot com bust, 9/11 and the 2007 recession all happened while he was in office but his overall performance left a lot to be desired.

Global warming regulation does only serve to benefit China, yes.

It serves to benefit the entire GLOBE, hence GLOBAL warming.

 

[Martys_not_smarty]

I'd say either Lincoln or JFK, they both said they'd serve a full term.

Seriously though I'm not an American so I have limited knowledge on the subject but it seems to me GWB was the worst in recent years. Much as I like him as a person between Iraq 2: Electrocuted Hussienabu, no child left behind, and his economic policy Bush was a pretty bad president. I grant you Bush held office in one of the hardest times to do so since the civil war given the dot com bust, 9/11 and the 2007 recession all happened while he was in office but his overall performance left a lot to be desired.

I moment I realized we were fooked with Dubya was when after talking with congress in regards to invading Iraq he was asked by a reporter if he consulted his father in regards to how to handle Saddam and he answered "No I consulted a father above him" yup he got the green light from the flying spaghetti monster to attack a sovereign nation on barely feasible pretenses.

 

[Pervious]

I moment I realized we were fooked with Dubya was when after talking with congress in regards to invading Iraq he was asked by a reporter if he consulted his father in regards to how to handle Saddam and he answered "No I consulted a father above him" yup he got the green light from the flying spaghetti monster to attack a sovereign nation on barely feasible pretenses.

I have to assume a lot of dubya was trying to make himself look like something he really wasn't, which is a self made American man. They guy when to Yale and has an IQ of around 125-130, everyone who's talked to him says he's very smart and to listen to him now that he's not a politician anymore you can tell the guy was really just acting a certain way to be disarming and also to make himself seem like he wasn't just Bush 2, that he wasn't his father. I have no doubt he brought it up at some point but simply didn't want to admit it to the world for fear of seeming like a member of the elite ruling class or a puppet of his father.

Also it's America so God is like franks red hot, put that shit on everything.

 

[Martys_not_smarty]

Pretty much, he puts on the air of a rootin' tootin' cowboy but his whole lineage is nothing but a bunch of Kennebunkport carpet baggers.

 

[Replicant Sasquatch]

I have no doubt he brought it up at some point but simply didn't want to admit it to the world for fear of seeming like a member of the elite ruling class or a puppet of his father.

Don't know why he filled his cabinet with dad's hunting buddies then.