Interests 6/22 - Chris at Too Many Games convention - Day 2 - Chris has a meltdown, kicked out of con for boundary issues, kissing attendees

[JULAY]

Thank god that the Chandlers didn't have a ton of guns like the Lanzas because I could see him try to go on a shooting spree after one of these incidents.

I mean the final warning sign is him praying to Mecca like a true believer. It's clear now he has pledged allegicane to ISIS given his mecca prayer.

He was actually praying in the direction of Cwcville. It doesn't matter what direction he was facing, but that's what he was going for, undoubtedly.

"Save me, Magichan, from the Jerkops and unbelievers!"

 

[FinalSolution]

Chris didn't pay into the con. ->The con didn't owe him shit, even ignoring the rules, so he doesn't have much room to complain.
One of the con managers (the one who got him in) confirmed Chris was spoken to in person. He was pretty wishy-washy about it, so there's definitely debate to be had, but I'd say that thinking he is telling the truth is just as, if not more valid than believing Chris saying otherwise. Chris has ignored plenty of warnings in the past, and this con is well established enough that I would be surprised if they hadn't warned him.
Chris has gone out with multiple women irl (some silly gals, but there were non-partisans like Megan), and they all had consistent stories of Chris being too handsy, and ignoring warnings and admonishments about personal space. Hence, it's safe to say Chris has a history with not keeping his hands to himself even when he's told to.
In terms of my "invective"? Sorry man, I thought this was kiwi farms, not an Ivy League dissertation. I've gotta say, between his ratty clothes and unkempt afro, I think the hobo in a wig jab is apt. Slobbery? Eh. Debateable.
Funny thing is, I don't hate Chris. I'm legitimately hoping he finds a way to become a functional, adapted member of society. But I don't think asspats every time he doesn't shit himself and playing down every time he fucks up is gonna get him there. And his history supports my thinking.

Nothing I've said has addressed the issue of Chris complaining, that's why it's irrelevant.

As I said, no-one has been able to say "I said this to him face to face" - so we're dealing with conjecture and rumour by definition. Like you I think it's quite likely someone official did say something but that opens up more questions.

Plenty of warnings in the past, in the context of selfies at a con? I read of one instance of that in this thread which he listened to and caused no further problems at that con.

As I said, apart from it concerning general boundary issues the examples regarding Megan et al. are nothing to do with the new world Chris now inhabits where he's popular enough for people to want selfies with him. Obviously it's wrong to go up to a stranger and try to put an arm around them and kiss them. But this isn't that context. As I said in my original message it is though too much for some - in the selfie context - and Chris needs to be warned about that.

As for the rest we'll have to disagree. Though I'll try to dumb the language down a bit, I am far too wordy.

 

[Maxliam]

If you're going to tell Null to get that involved, you might as well suggest he personally goes to the con with Chris. I wouldn't invest that much effort in Chris in the first place, but at that level of investment you might really have to be personally available to wrangle Chris at a moment's notice, to ensure your efforts are not wasted. Null already mentioned this has been a team effort and look how Chris fucked it up despite multiple people actively trying to make sure he has a good time.

That's because Null is no fun. You could almost say null is...void of it. I'll see myself out...

But seriously, Chrissy is a grown man. If he can't figure out that his way too intimate antics seem to consistently draw the same negative reaction, he's beyond hopeless. Whether it's calling a (married) woman "dear" on twitter, ruining possibly the only genuine female friend by molesting her and then humiliating her with a horrific finger bang drawing that looks like something a molested 8 year old creates as a window to their tormented soul, or just generally creeping all women out in general. Chris just doesn't get it. No effort will be worth it since we've all read the white knight e-mails. It's like fighting a wall. He won't listen to any advice. He is a stubborn manchild. Notice how he curled up on the floor and wouldn't move? Even children know when to cut their losses at some point. He's a man pushing 40.

Let that sink in.

Gross. Not that I ever wanted to go to one of these things, but now I certainly don't. Do these mongoloids at least wipe after shitting? You know what? Never mind, I sincerely don't want an answer to that question.

That's one reason I stoppped going to conventions and also why I take any classes I can online for my degree. I took a programming class once where we had one chick in the entire class. She was a smoking hot Spanish girl and I swear the cheese stench of these guys was getting me sick. I've dealt with homeless people who had a lesser funk than some of these guys. I could only imagine what went through her head every day in class. I can only imagine why few women get into programming...real mystery there.

Then add to it the MLP shirts they wore and the straight up autism that permeated the room and it was a depressing sight. It reminded me of cons and why I avoid them like the plague. I wish I could see something this hilarious though. Chris' antics are at least funny.

 

[JULAY]

That's because Null is no fun. You could almost say null is...void of it. I'll see myself out...

But seriously, Chrissy is a grown man. If he can't figure out that his way too intimate antics seem to consistently draw the same negative reaction, he's beyond hopeless. Whether it's calling a (married) woman "dear" on twitter, ruining possibly the only genuine female friend by molesting her and then humiliating her with a horrific finger bang drawing that looks like something a molested 8 year old creates as a window to their tormented soul, or just generally creeping all women out in general. Chris just doesn't get it. No effort will be worth it since we've all read the white knight e-mails. It's like fighting a wall. He won't listen to any advice. He is a stubborn manchild. Notice how he curled up on the floor and wouldn't move? Even children know when to cut their losses at some point. He's a man pushing 40.

Let that sink in.

You're talking about a man who couldn't even learn to not shit himself. Clearly, if he can't learn that, his ability to learn and apply more subtle and nuanced concepts is going to be very much lacking.

 

[Maxliam]

You're talking about a man who couldn't even learn to not shit himself. Clearly, if he can't learn that, his ability to learn and apply more subtle and nuanced concepts is going to be very much lacking.

Yep. That's why it's more fun to watch him crash and burn. Some people are beyond saving, so just grab the popcorn and watch the Anti-Lifetime Movie unfold before your eyes. Ain't no Hallmark Channel ending here, just some classic Midnight Cowboy ending where the sick dude drops dead on the bus.

 

[Pony Horn]

Scmibble Scmab 5 hours ago
...enjoying the Con like a normal person

That was the funniest thing in that entire thread.

I see those who already hate Chris are trying hard to push the narrative that he was acting like a dangerous nutter running round a con groping and kissing all and sundry.

When the facts as we know them (from this thread, which is all I've read) are this: Chris was at the con, people were asking him for selfies, he'd put his arm around them for the selfie and sometimes try to peck them on the cheek.

Perhaps I come from another time but it's nothing. The arm is completely innocuous (remember, we have no reports of groping arses or whatever). The kiss is perhaps too much for some but like the guy in the Tweet you just pull away and laugh.

I don't really disagree but Chris was hanging all over some of the guys. Like this:

Spoiler: Photo

Now I don't find that personally offemsive but Chris needs to realize you can't be both a professional with a credit card swiper and a faux hooker who climbs all over men.

It's kind of worrying how many people in this thread think it's perfectly fine to hug/kiss women without their consent.

Of course it's disgusting when a guy kisses a woman without their consent, especially when it's someone like Chris. But when a man gets kissed and reacts like a little girl it's funny.

We're talking about kisses on the cheek tho so personally it bugs me more that he's climbing all over women. Actually the entire package bothers me.

About the hugs: Chris doesn't seem to notice (or care about) the difference between an arm around the shoulder hug for a selfie and cuddling. And his stubbornness over it is going to cause him more grief.

 

[cans.wav]

I feel bad for Null, he tried to help Chris and actually give him something positive and it gets screwed up.

 

[Roger Whore]

I don't think this was just a "meet and greet" thing. Chris did not kiss some people, and the ones he did not kiss were unattractive. No matter what his intentions were (all though I don't think they were pure), Chris was still violating boundaries like he did with potential sweethearts of yore. Someone needs to sit him down and tell him he looks like an ugly, old hobo and not a cute teenage girl, or he will get his teeth broken by some touchy guy.

Not defending his actions, but I do kind of feel sorry for him. The dude can’t figure out how to act in any situation.

 

[Maxliam]

I feel bad for Null, he tried to help Chris and actually give him something positive and it gets screwed up.

Chris is the Anti-King Midas. Everything he touches becomes shit. I honestly think we could have more fun if we got him roomed with Ahuviya, A-Log, Pixy, etc. in an even more horrifying version of Big Brother. Could you imagine them living together and having to do basic tasks like "You must plan and throw a BBQ pool party.".

The hijinks alone would be great to watch.

EDIT: Also, yes I'm aware the message of the King Midas was that turning things to gold was a bad idea. It's like using Romeo & Juliet as an ironic tragedy. I get it, fucko's.

 

[JULAY]

Yep. That's why it's more fun to watch him crash and burn. Some people are beyond saving, so just grab the popcorn and watch the Anti-Lifetime Movie unfold before your eyes. Ain't no Hallmark Channel ending here, just some classic Midnight Cowboy ending where the sick dude drops dead on the bus.

Nah, I'd like to see Chris find a place in the world for himself, and quit being such a tard. Now, I don't think that's a very likely prospect, but I wish him nothing but good things just the same.

I am going to continue to laugh at his fuckups, because I've been laughing at his fuckups for the better part of a decade, and see no compelling reason to change that impulse now, but I would sincerely like to see him find a place in the world that makes his life sustainable, and still allows me to poke fun at his foibles.

Chris is his own worst troll, and that can be traced right back to his awful parents. I've said this before, not for a while, but still... Chris is a monstrously horrible experiment that Borb unwittingly conducted: What happens if you take a moderately autistic child and don't get him the help that he needs, and also convince him that nothing he ever does wrong is his fault? Then, when offered, you actively resist getting him the help he needs, and continue to insist that nothing is his fault?

Well, ladies and gentlemen, you get Chris. And what a fucking spectacle it ended up being..

 

[Sinner's Sandwich]

I would suggest that you make a "note for the babysitter" if you arrange or are involved in any other situations where you can help Chris attend and have an enjoyable time at a con. What would be better is if a staff or volunteer, someone you can trust not to fuck around with him, was a semi-guide for him. Not get in his way, but be handy to correct him, so to speak, if he seemed to be going in autism overload mode.

Give the staff or whoever you deal with a good rundown on how he is, how he can react and more importantly how to simply explain things to him so he fully understands. Chris I truly believe, if things are explained to him correctly in a coherent to his autism way, he can exist and not be a problem.

Like you said, it is a learning experience for all and with some trusted help from you and others, Chris can attend future events and enjoy and not get caught up in something that he cannot deal with or doesn't comprehend.

Or simply ban him forever instead of wasting time and force some poor dude to babysit a tard. Why the hell should Chris get special attention?

 

[Nobunaga]

I feel bad for Null, he tried to help Chris and actually give him something positive and it gets screwed up.

Both trolls and white knights have tried to help chris in their own way and it always fails, dont know what the fuck null was thinking trying to help chris
Clyde said it best, chris is a fools errand at this point, the only thing we can do for chris is wait until he kicks the bucket and reunites with bob and patty

 

[Maxliam]

Nah, I'd like to see Chris find a place in the world for himself, and quit being such a tard. Now, I don't think that's a very likely prospect, but I wish him nothing but good things just the same.

I am going to continue to laugh at his fuckups, because I've been laughing at his fuckups for the better part of a decade, and see no compelling reason to change that impulse now, but I would sincerely like to see him find a place in the world that makes his life sustainable, and still allows me to poke fun at his foibles.

Chris is his own worst troll, and that can be traced right back to his awful parents. I've said this before, not for a while, but still... Chris is a monstrously horrible experiment that Borb unwittingly conducted: What happens if you take a moderately autistic child and don't get him the help that he needs, and also convince him that nothing he ever does wrong is his fault? Then, when offered, you actively resist getting him the help he needs, and continue to insist that nothing is his fault?

Well, ladies and gentlemen, you get Chris. And what a fucking spectacle it ended up being..

I wish him the best but unfortuntately, he's a lost cause. You gotta just cut your losses with some people and just watch the trainwreck happen. What's life without whimsy, right?

 

[ghostyTrickster]

Not defending his actions, but I do kind of feel sorry for him. The dude can’t figure out how to act in any situation.

In my opinion, his behavior was more him trying to display his newfound "bisexuality. " If I'm not mistaken isn't this his first public appearance since he "came out," and a majority of the reports about this is him kissing men. Obviously this doesn't justify his behaviour in any way but I believe that may have been what was going through his head when, out of the blue, he believed he could outright kiss strangers.

(Also it doesn't at all help that he sees himself as an attractive young lady that oozes sex appeal, that probably played a major role in how he justified this in his head)

 

[gREEEEEEEEEr]

Chris being the autistic tard that he is, in his mind, anything short of "do not do X again or you'll be kicked out of the con" was not really a warning that if he does X again he'll be kicked out of the con. So yes, I believe that Chris is telling his truth when he says that he was never warned verbally, and thus, when he actually got kicked out for something that he sees nothing wrong with, it truly did completely blindside him.

And I believe the con employee, who said that Chris was warned verbally, multiple times. I'm sure the real truth is that he was told something like "several people have complained about the way you hugged them and/or kissed them and said that they didn't like it and it made them uncomfortable; everyone should be able to feel safe and comfortable here so please don't do that anymore." But to him, that was just a suggestion; he's too autistic to understand that he could be kicked out of the con for that sort of behavior, or to grasp that them telling him to cut it out was a verbal warning and he'd be kicked out if he didn't start behaving.

 

[JULAY]

I wish him the best but unfortuntately, he's a lost cause. You gotta just cut your losses with some people and just watch the trainwreck happen. What's life without whimsy, right?

I don't think he's a lost cause, but I do think that he's got a really fucking hard road ahead of him if he's going to have any chance of becoming some semblance of a functional person. His parents really fucked him severely, and the poor bastard doesn't even know it. He's not so autistic that he can't learn the proper way to behave, but his ego is the size of Jupiter, and that's the real problem, near as I can tell. I honestly think that when his cantankerous harpy of a mother dies, he'll be much better off. The question is whether he'll end up surrounded by people who will try to help him, or surrounded by shitheads who will try to swindle him out of everything in exchange for a handful of magic beans that will make him grow titties or a vagina or something equally preposterous.

 

[Trilby]

Chris can save himself trouble and make money at the same time by going back to the basics. Put an attraction attractive sign on his table saying: " Autographs $2. Selfies $5. Selfies with hugs $10. Peck on cheek extra, $20." If there's a dollar value put to it, Chris ain't giving it away for free. There are probably people who'd pay for a picture of that.

Honestly, that would've solved everything!

 

[AprilRains]

Chris can save himself trouble and make money at the same time by going back to the basics. Put an attraction attractive sign on his table saying: " Autographs $2. Selfies $5. Selfies with hugs $10. Peck on cheek extra, $20."

"Picture of this sign $25."

 

[DonaldJTrump]

How soon until he blames the Jews for this one.

 

[Will you be my fwiend?]

Chris can save himself trouble and make money at the same time by going back to the basics. Put an attraction attractive sign on his table saying: " Autographs $2. Selfies $5. Selfies with hugs $10. Peck on cheek extra, $20." If there's a dollar value put to it, Chris ain't giving it away for free. There are probably people who'd pay for a picture of that.

Absolute genius. Exceeeeept the part where putting monetary value to his touching people makes him actually think his touch is valuable. He might start throwing kisses and gropes around at every boyfriend-free girl and guy because "I'm hooking you up with a freebie, you can always pay me back later -Chris's attempt at a coquettish giggle-"