King of the hill appreciation thread - Yup.

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Binge watched the season last night and, overall, it feels a lot better than the last season even though there were some glaring moment. Rolled my eyes during the scene of Reality Bites where Connie walks into Bobby clearly getting sexually assaulted and gets upset. I am so fucking tired of the clique of adult characters storming off without the full context of what happened. Hank was also a bit of a prick during "Nerd Kind" episode with the whole "break the cycle of abuse" to a father bringing his family to a sci-fi convention. Like... what the fuck? I also get what they were going for towards the end, but it really didn't have enough time to really feel earned.

That said, there were plenty of good moments like Boomhauer being more of a father to Luke Jr who in turn is better able to relate back to him, Hank going to Dale to learn OpSecs, Peggy showing some level of humility, and the season ending.
The Token Ethnic dijo:
I still found it odd that Hank would travel all the way to New Mexico just to buy weed for Peggy.
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Recreational marijuana is illegal in Texas but legal in New Mexico. Between that and the suggestions between Mihn and Nancy, the other being more sexual in nature, it doesn't seem that crazy.
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They're trying with Dale's voice, but Toby Huss does a good job at times.
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Keep in mind that Hardwick's voice had changed significantly between Season 13 and 14, and Toby is basically replicating that.
 
Anybody else feel like the pacing of this season was going by too fast? I'm trying to take my sweet time with these new episodes but it feels like I'm being rushed by the show to binge watch the rest. The first two episodes were fine but 3 and 4 make me think they both ended far too quickly. Nothing was given time to relax and these all-too perfect happy endings didn't feel earned. I might be misremembering but I'm sure last season didn't have this problem.

I skipped to the final episode and despite the praise I saw it had the same pacing issues. It felt a little worse too because we get reintroduced to all these old characters but no time to let them interact with Hank or the plot. Things just happen because the plot demands it, and we're given barely any explanation or context why except for the bare minimum. I know this revival assumes you've watched King of the Hill before but still a good story needs a beginning, middle, and end. This episode made me think this was supposed to be 2 parts but what we got was an episode that effectively didn't have a middle. Hank struggled harder with finding a new job than fixing up Ray Roy's mess. It all ended way too quickly and cleanly is all I'm saying. For god's sake we didn't even get to see Bobby's restaurant reservations for Hank and Peggy. What was up with that?
 
Hate that shows being dumped all at once is a thing. Feel like I missed out on prime discussion because I didn't have time to watch the whole thing in one go.
I liked it. Kahn is still the worst part. Lol at Peggy finally apologizing for the Thanksgiving ep. Lol at the weed dude calling Hank autistic. The animation was the usual shit modern animation but the colors and texture looked better especially during the flashback, if that makes sense? Don't know the proper terminology to explain what I mean. They didn't do that head angle as often this time where the characters look really off model.
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Anybody else feel like the pacing of this season was going by too fast? I'm trying to take my sweet time with these new episodes but it feels like I'm being rushed by the show to binge watch the rest. The first two episodes were fine but 3 and 4 make me think they both ended far too quickly. Nothing was given time to relax and these all-too perfect happy endings didn't feel earned. I might be misremembering but I'm sure last season didn't have this problem.

I skipped to the final episode and despite the praise I saw it had the same pacing issues. It felt a little worse too because we get reintroduced to all these old characters but no time to let them interact with Hank or the plot. Things just happen because the plot demands it, and we're given barely any explanation or context why except for the bare minimum. I know this revival assumes you've watched King of the Hill before but still a good story needs a beginning, middle, and end. This episode made me think this was supposed to be 2 parts but what we got was an episode that effectively didn't have a middle. Hank struggled harder with finding a new job than fixing up Ray Roy's mess. It all ended way too quickly and cleanly is all I'm saying. For god's sake we didn't even get to see Bobby's restaurant reservations for Hank and Peggy. What was up with that?
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Yeah. There was so little of Bill and Kahn living together that I forgot that was even a thing, which made the episode where Kahn is moving out feel meaningless.
 
The pacing is really irritating and probably what screams the most poorly-written to me out of everything.

The food truck/convention episode wastes so much time on the Peggy/Minh B-Plot that just boiled down to the same Peggy/Minh rivalry they had largely grown out of in the original series. They did very little with the convention setting, and even within that wasted so much time with Hank chasing down the stolen convention pass instead of any meaningful interaction with convention characters who are maybe different from Hank but that can still teach him something about life.

Instead, a guy steals Hank's pass but that guy's still somehow the good guy, because he's (plot twist) a dad who took his family to comic con...?
 
I watched the first couple of episodes. The animation is still jank, so we're probably never getting another scene like this kino.
Which might be an excuse just to post this video again.

I liked the second episode better, but Khan not having Toby Huss be the voice really takes away from it. They write for Khan having the same voice and the same pattern of speech but the new guy just doesn't have it and feels like the timing of all the jokes is off.
 
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Arlen is obviously supposed to be in North Texas. He’d go to Oklahoma.
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Last I checked, recreational marijuana is illegal in Oklahoma.
OutInTheRain dijo:
I liked the second episode better, but Khan not having Toby Huss be the voice really takes away from it.
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Yeah, the guy in question is clearly not fit for voice acting. Still crazy they got all pissy about "the wrong race voice acting for characters" and then hired a Malaysian to voice a Laotian because "fuck it, all SEAmonkeys are the same, right?"
 
Day of the Cope dijo:
Last I checked, recreational marijuana is illegal in Oklahoma.
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For some reason I thought they had moved to recreational as well.

Mike Judge says the town is based off Richardson, Tx which makes sense considering how easily they travel to Cowboys stadium.

Assuming he travelled to Clovis, NM (the first thing worth talking about taking any sane route) that was a fourteen plus hour trip.
 
Taser Confetti dijo:
Mike Judge says the town is based off Richardson, Tx which makes sense considering how easily they travel to Cowboys stadium.
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It's actually based on a couple different places in Texas.
Squirrel Tactics has a pretty good video going over what the show tells us about Arlen, and the best guess is that it's somewhere around the Killeen/Temple region of Texas.
 
Day of the Cope dijo:
Yeah, the guy in question is clearly not fit for voice acting. Still crazy they got all pissy about "the wrong race voice acting for characters" and then hired a Malaysian to voice a Laotian because "fuck it, all SEAmonkeys are the same, right?"
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Like I said, he doesn't have the patter and it's very obvious in the Minh scenes. Minh and Bad Khan have different ways of speaking. Where they had the same way of speaking in the original run.
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For some reason I thought they had moved to recreational as well.
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They don't check.

Which would have made a great plot of Hank trying to buy weed at an OK shop at Dale's advice and then having a Hank moment and then needing to go to New Mexico so he can feel morally correct at buying...the marijauna. With an annoyed Dale, Bill and Boomhauer in tow...and a Bobby who keeps trying to hook Hank up with his sous chef's dealer.
 
OutInTheRain dijo:
Like I said, he doesn't have the patter and it's very obvious in the Minh scenes. Minh and Bad Khan have different ways of speaking. Where they had the same way of speaking in the original run.
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Yeah, old Khan had that tinge in his voice that made everything he said come off as "dismissive" and it really defined his character. You really get the feeling that he's the kind of character who thinks he's above others from the way he talks but has that slight "whine" in his voice that shows a level of insecurity. New Khan is just... Amy Wong's father. Fuck, even Mihn sounds like Amy Wong's mother.
 
Day of the Cope dijo:
Fuck, even Mihn sounds like Amy Wong's mother.
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"Quick we need to get someone to voice this insufferable Asian sounding bitch but she also has to be Asian! I got Lauren Tom on speed dial!...nope she's in the sound booth right now!"
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At first I wasn't too keen on the finale's radical reset to the status quo but then I thought about it and realized the "Hank gets bored with retirement and does whacky thing or goes whacky place" thing was already getting stale like the third time it happened.
 
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At first I wasn't too keen on the finale's radical reset to the status quo but then I thought about it and realized the "Hank gets bored with retirement and does whacky thing or goes whacky place" thing was already getting stale like the third time it happened.
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When this was first announced I was expecting it to focus on Bobby with a family of his own with Hank only turning up once in a while like Cotton did in the original show to solve that problem.

Guess that wouldn't fit with the Disney marketing formula.
 
BubbaRobot887 dijo:
When this was first announced I was expecting it to focus on Bobby with a family of his own with Hank only turning up once in a while like Cotton did in the original show to solve that problem.

Guess that wouldn't fit with the Disney marketing formula.
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I think it's completely fine that they're college aged and we didn't just timeskip to middle aged Bobby with kids but what I don't particularly like is that Bobby's story is often the B plot and Hank or the other retirees are often the A plot.

Let the younger characters have some screentime.

The rare times Joseph shows up he's really funny but he gets like 5 seconds in a 25 minute episode.
 
Jace on ice dijo:
I think it's completely fine that they're college aged and we didn't just timeskip to middle aged Bobby with kids but what I don't particularly like is that Bobby's story is often the B plot and Hank or the other retirees are often the A plot.

Let the younger characters have some screentime.
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Yeah, that is fine too.

I just figured enough time had passed that Bobby should have a family by now, wasn't he born in 88?

Either way I expect the focus to be on him and not Hank.
 
BubbaRobot887 dijo:
Yeah, that is fine too.

I just figured enough time had passed that Bobby should have a family by now, wasn't he born in 88?

Either way I expect the focus to be on him and not Hank.
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Bobby was 12 in 2001 so he'd be 26 today and not the 21 he's portrayed as.

Somewhere along the line they adopted a semi floating timeline.
 
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