DDoS attacks

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The Gay Oboma Creature dijo:
You're never going to convince ~50% of the population to spend 10 hours a week switching their lives to Bitcoin or something, but I do think people could do more to make it an option for people looking for a side hustle, or looking to share talents
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No, Gold and Silver threads. If you Bitcoin you just lose. Instantly.
 
I primarily use the Tor mirror, so there are Tor-only farmers that do exist. Very sorry to hear what you're going through Null, it certainly is an injustice, and many of us feel just as indignant about it as you do. I can't offer much other than my respects and admiration for the work you've done. God willing it stays afloat.
 
Null dijo:
The Kiwi Farms is known for lolcow content but there are subcommunities here that track sex criminals, pedophiles active in grooming and terrorism, and animal crush pornographers. As of the last few months, I have noticed these antagonist groups have found each other and coalesced. I have also been informed by someone I consider very trutworthy that some of these pedophiles are CIs for three letter agencies and my requests that something be done are being deliberately ignored. I believe them.
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Another group I think worth considering are hindutva Indians. The problem is thier government has teams and infrastructure (bot farms) that support this type of maleficence.
Null dijo:
So, I have reached the end of my capabilities. I need DDoS mitigation and I cannot create it from thin air. There is no software I can write, no vibes I can put out, to make several hundred gigabits of attack traffic disappear. I also can't afford it. I wouldn't be able to afford it with three times the numbers of donors we currently have. We're talking about needing pipes and hardware that would start in the tens of thousands of dollars every month.
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It would be nice of multi-millioniare content creators like turkey tom, kino casino, and others to help out. Especially since this site has made them rich

This is probably meaningless but I appreciate what you do and most of the members of this site.

I will in my capacity try to see what I can do to aid and assist.
 
I'm so tired of struggling to browse a fucking internet gossip site because someone else decided I don't get to. I'm tired of feeling completely powerless to help with nothing to offer that isn't feckless virtue signaling. Don't know what else to say. Modern life is a carrot on a stick, chasing the idea that you can have a truly free life if you just do this, if you just work a little harder, if you just save a little more money. The stick puppeted by rich and powerful complete and total retards that couldn't give less of a shit. The evils are still sufferable so I will continue to be a good little serf and suffer them. I'll follow this site to the end.
 
Crazy that this is only an issue because cloudflare felt pressured by Keffals and his flash in the pan 'movement' and now keffals is cancelled and no one cares about him. I wonder how many handwritten letters sent to cloudflare would be needed to reverse the decision since the eye of trans-sauron isn't on them anymore
 
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Wherever the farms goes, ill follow. I give what I can through Locals and pretty much every merch run, but like many, im just one person and can only give what I can. Even though sometimes I have strong disagreement with bossman Jersh, but I believe in my heart thos website brings more good than ill.

Godspeed eerverlord. Wherever you go, whatever your choice. Ill support it to the best of my ability
 
Mister Pickles dijo:
It seems like they're doing it at an hourly rate because otherwise we wouldn't be on the clearnet right now (someone smarter can correct me if I'm wrong), which is fairly cheap but can stack up over time especially at the sheer scale of these attacks. It doesn't seem like they can sustain longer attacks.
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I expect they're running attacks constantly, but null's mitigations are enough to swallow those, most of the time. Those are the cheap attacks, the pennies per gigabit sort of affairs, which cost a lot of money to mitigate but can be fended off. They also occasionally ramp up to attempt a total swamping of everything. Attacks of that nature are more expensive; the people running these DDOS services operate payment tiers like everyone else, with escalating costs the further up you go.
 
Hey, I’ve brought this up before, but does Null have a Kiwi ‘heir’? I’ve always wondered what happens to this place if he becomes incapacitated or passes away. Null, I don’t expect you to lay out those plans to us here, for obvious reasons, I’m just curious if you’ve given this thought. This place is important IMO.
 
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Sloppy Party Bottom dijo:
I think the issue is that the providers cannot handle this. A normal DDoS attack against a VPS often will make the whole node it's on unusable. If the attack is sufficient, it could overwhelm the infra at the site and bring down their presence in a location.
Hosts can be forgiving with the first one, nullrouting your IP and giving you a new one, but no one wants to get woken up to deal with this bullshit and automation only goes so far.
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Pretty sure he has his own dedicated servers here, rather than a VPS ;)
In my personal experience, when a volumetric DDoS against a dedicated server is strong enough to create issues on the infrastructure, they blackhole the targeted IP automatically and temporarily.
You do get that IP back. I had that happen to me multiple times and it was like a 10min short but strong DDoS tripping the blackhole and then a two hour wait time til it gets released again.
The solution is to, unironically, just switch to a different IP while the other one is gone. You do get multiple of them, unless you are on some cheapo <50 $/month server. While an IP is blackholed, you don't get any network traffic on it anymore, so the blackhole is actually helping you, because you now have your full bandwidth available again, just not on that one IP anymore. But if you already have a DDoS mitigation service in front of you, the game becomes different and that DDoS probably was already large enough to be able to kick down all your IPs at once.
 
I hesitate to mention this as, even to me, it sounds a little bit dumb and probably incredibly naive, but as the options are getting smaller and fewer...

When the KF ddos attacks started there was a tranny loving Biden administration in place.
We knew the type of people behind the attacks and it's probably rather unlikely that has changed in the intervening years.

Four years later, the political landscape has changed significantly and KF enemies are now seen as government enemies.

Given that landscape change, KF are probably closer to the government ethos than it has ever been.
Would it perhaps be worth escalating the issue to Federal authorities in the hope they could use their expertise and infrastructure to track, close down and prosecute those responsible?
 
Nero Fiddled dijo:
I hesitate to mention this as, even to me, it sounds a little bit dumb and probably incredibly naive, but as the options are getting smaller and fewer...

When the KF ddos attacks started there was a tranny loving Biden administration in place.
We knew the type of people behind the attacks and it's probably rather unlikely that has changed in the intervening years.

Four years later, the political landscape has changed significantly and KF enemies are now seen as government enemies.

Given that landscape change, KF are probably closer to the government ethos than it has ever been.
Would it perhaps be worth escalating the issue to Federal authorities in the hope they could use their expertise and infrastructure to track, close down and prosecute those responsible?
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Null tried and they told him to pound Sand because the people responsible are snitches.
 
Runch dijo:
Null saying "this is the end" but it's really more like "this is the current state of affairs, take it or leave it." It doesn't have to be an end.

At the moment, I would just deal with it. To actually say "this is the end" signals to them to keep it up, just a little more pressure and Null will cave and take down the site. If you shrug and use TOR, they'll eventually lose interest and stop paying for the DDOS. But even if they don't, whatever, force them to keep paying for it forever. We will be here on TOR.
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I’m willing to bet that some of these folks will keep trying to get Tor down as well. Don’t some of these fuckers have it where they’re informed when their thread gets updated ?
Null dijo:
Cloudflare leaves literally everyone alone except us specifically. This is not a joke. ISIS, the Palestine Authority, Iran, animal torture, AI child porn, piracy sites, it's all protected by Cloudflare. We are literally the only operating site that I am aware of that is not protected by Cloudflare not by choice, because they have dropped us.
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All because we posted info someone doesn’t like. And Cloudflare is addicted to good PR.
 
This might just be a situation where we have to wait out the barrage and hope the feds go after the booting services. Is there anyway we can identify which booter is being used to take us offline and try to get people to report the site with whichever country's law enforcement.

Surely someone operating a booter this large has to be on the radar, there's no way we're the only people they've hitting.
 
realistically, if kiwifarms goes down and stays down, what happens?
what happens to all of the archival shit? is that just gone forever in a DDOS purgatory where it cannot escape from?
are all active efforts just sunk now?
are we made to just stick here and wait randomly until whoever's doing it gets bored?

all the teenagers are going to be forced to do other shit now lmao
 
Null dijo:
Cloudflare leaves literally everyone alone except us specifically. This is not a joke. ISIS, the Palestine Authority, Iran, animal torture, AI child porn, piracy sites, it's all protected by Cloudflare. We are literally the only operating site that I am aware of that is not protected by Cloudflare not by choice, because they have dropped us.
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There are lots of smaller based & redpilled websites that get kicked out by Cloudflare.
Just not in the direct and openly admitted way. They don't get a blog post and official statement.

In example:
Suddenly your website is blocked with a cloudflare phishing warning -> there is very clearly and obviously no phising going on -> write to cloudflare that this warning is wrong -> clouflare lifts it -> next week its back -> write to cloudflare -> they lift it -> one more week and its back -> write to cloudflare -> no answer, keeps being blocked -> write on their community forum -> they tell you to leave cloudflare if you don't like it -> look up the person handing those reports, its some liberal lunatic who fights nazis on twitter, so you know that you will never get it resolved
 
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