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Should be a wild four years.

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What was your second hint, after the fact that it’s been happening for the last 25 fucking years
i dont mean the country or republicans, they of course arent working. i mean specifically the plan to tell us "oy vey goy you didnt get brithright struck down ... so the dems can win next election and undo all your immigration wins! better vote for the war jews again goy!" and then to just ultimately rugpull us when trump inevitably ruins the economy on the war one way or the other like bush so jews can put in the new obama and sweep all the temporary gains away without ever having given us a harder to strike down permanent win.
 
I'm going to say again he spent his entire life trying to recruit people into Judaism so that the old established Pharisee heads were not Jewish enough and didn't follow Jewish law strictly enough.
I don't think that's quite right.

Mormonism is only second to islam for encouraging adherents to fuck over non-adherents. Shit, they even encourage fucking over other mormons and divorcing spouses if they aren't obedient enough of the church.
Mormons will work with Indians (feather) to cut down hundreds of white gentile women and children just for passing through "their" territory, and people still say well, Mormons are white and they look healthy so that's fine. It's crazy! Never relax around Mormons. They will kill! They will steal! They will lie! They are no better than Indians (dot).

Never Doom.
Take the punch and quit crying.
God Bless America.
It sucks ass but technically nothing really changed, we already had birthright citizenship and birth tourism for ages now. Would've been nice to be rid of it though
 
No one should be surprised by this. I want way stronger restrictions on immigration, but I also don't think it's a good idea to set a precedent of striking down Constitutional amendments with executive orders. No party stays in power forever, and there are other amendments that are just as consequential, or more so, than the 14th that should not be at the whim of whatever President is in office. The Constitution spells out a clear process for making these kinds of changes and I think we should follow it.
The problem is actually that the court doesn’t stand for anything but itself.

There is no law that says this country has jus soli. The “subject to the jurisdiction thereof” decision was twisting words and now in the current era the judiciary would never overturn it. I knew this would happen. If someone crosses the border and then has a baby on our soil on a livestream then that kid is an American? Where does it explicitly say that. Besides if a foreign dignitary or diplomat is here then they are still subject to the country they come from? That doesn’t make sense. If an invading army brings women with them and they have kids here does that mean they’re citizens? Where is the congressional ink to confirm this, from the ivory tower SC niggers?

Likewise, the power of the pen means Congress won’t pass limits on themselves or repeal their own laws. To take something away from themselves is bad and to reverse something given to their constituents is bad for their re election. The judiciary won’t overturn their own bad rulings if it affects people and causes harm or goes against precedent either. So the system is not what was written down and the constitutional meaning or text is secondary to the whim of the person wielding the modern lens. This is antithetical to running a country rightly. It is poison.

The problem is that any suitable person who understands that, knows there’s no fix to this:

>congress writes a law that is unconstitutional and repugnant to the original framing, practice, and intention.
>judiciary confirms it with nonsense ruling based on their own previous interpretation to create a new status quo advantageous to the government.
>executive gets blocked when throwing a flag on the play with an EO.

But if you don’t obey their decisions it’s your criminality. There is no legal way to dissent from their criminality. There is no “freedom of association” to dissolve their power over you.

So there can’t be a sovereign leader or a popular revolt, because there is a mercenary congress and an unaccountable judiciary. The executive changes every few years but congress is a chaotic mess of corruption and the judges are like feudal lords without land, but with large bank accounts.

Where is the law that says that subject to the jurisdiction thereof means if you’re born here you’re a citizen? There is none. They had to make up a story about English common law and a case that was ruled in 1898. There’s no citation they can make from a legislator that says that was the intention or meaning.

“Subject to the jurisdiction” is the entire argument over the interpretation of the law right?
And “the right to bear arms” is interpreted as the NFA being legal, and so on. The fourth amendment says you won’t be subject to search and seizure but that’s interpreted as flock cameras and FISA courts being fine under anti terrorism laws. None of that is what the founders intended and that is plainly obvious based on literally everything they did.

So there is no constitution really, because the judiciary only cares about its own historical opinions and how judges can personally rewrite meaning of laws. What there is are people who decide what that means because they have the titles which is what the next popular revolt will be about, but since no one has an alternative to this system and no one will allow it, the rape of all “our posterity” will continue.

Congress might as well be a corporate position with mercenary actors doing what they’re told in groups. After all where in the constitution does it say that congress can make subdivisions of itself, and hire out its work to subordinate undemocratic organizations?

Besides, they already threw it out during the civil war when they decided the country could not be seceded from. So there really is two “Americas”. one that’s in the minds of Americans, and one that exists as a power structure, and the power structure made sure the die was cast. None of these modern concepts make any sense to someone in 1776 or in the 1800s, but the original framing of something doesn’t matter, again what matters is entropy and the personal game of power exercising.

Unfortunately technology prevents a Napoleon in this era because what the people in government have done in “the west” is they have decided that it’s a free for all as long as you don’t destroy people’s personal job security.
 
If the plates are real, why didn't Smith show the world to prove their truth?

If the Vatican has a massive collection of artifacts spoken of in the bible, why aren't the plates on display in the Tabernacle? Surely the Mormons (according to demonology texts, that means followers of the demon Mormo, BTW. It also means Gates of Hell in a Chinese dialect, which was why the "church" rebranded) would want to show that their faith is the truth, wouldn't they?
Why is faith not enough? AFAIK, it was two Catholics that fucked us over today. Don't throw stones in glass houses, Canadian
 
The distinction here is almost all major religions have their holy texts and artifacts displayed somewhere, because they actually fucking exist!

Joseph Smith NEVER showed the golden plates or seer stones to another living soul. No archaeological evidence exists of anything told of in the Book of Mormon. Every coin mentioned in the bible has been found in one place or another.

Joseph Smith was a con man, and the Mormon church was subverted into a satanic cult at the top by Brigham Young.
In SLC, rumors about a certain mummy used to be fairly widespread. Supposedly when Joseph Smith bought the Egyptian scrolls, he also brought an Egyptian mummy that was being displayed with them. This mummy was said to be on display in the basement of the LDS temple in Salt Lake City, although bishops and elders have always denied this.
 
It sucks ass but technically nothing really changed, we already had birthright citizenship and birth tourism for ages now. Would've been nice to be rid of it though
We literally, unironically do not have a country anymore. It's over.

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This would've been based if he said India and Africa.
It's fucking real.

Good to know he's doubling down on completely cucking on this issue.

The third world now has permanent access to American soil.

We're getting digital ID in a couple months.

Nothing matters anymore.
 
Mormonism is only second to islam for encouraging adherents to fuck over non-adherents. Shit, they even encourage fucking over other mormons and divorcing spouses if they aren't obedient enough of the church.
Thats just how every tribe behaves though, not just religions sects, Christians are the only ones that gasligthed themselves to think that as long as they treat them nicely and/or convert non adherents they wont fuck them over, only to actually do It and all they can do is just take It.
 
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