US US Politics General 2: Hope Edition - Discussion of President Trump and other politicians

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Should be a wild four years.

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Scale Smerch dijo:
Throw me rainbows but if Vance decides to run he's got it locked. That first quip from Maher about being unable to get any newly elected Democrat on his show and the later one about openly mulling Vance being an option is enough of a hint towards how the independent crowd will fall. It's really hard not liking the guy, especially with how well he can play off antagonistic audiences.
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Nobody's going to throw you rainbows. Forums are for the chronically online. These are the people who thought Thomas Massie would win re-election.
On the Vance Viability Question, certain sources actually claim the opposite. Sources from 2024 to 2026 consistently show Vance has trouble with the Boomers. And the boomers vote in primaries more than anyone else. Especially caucuses like early GOP primary states.

So again, the internet will say Vance is strong, as they said Massie was strong.
But the metrics tell a different story. And a trillion Texas voters or Dakota voters won't make a difference in Iowa or New Hampshire.
 
HTTP Error 404 dijo:
Every early communist thought leader was a pedophile. Every single one. The idea that they could get children away from the family unit so the "community" could decide what was best for them inherently included letting the communist elite fuck them if what they felt was best for the kids was that their anuses needed a little cum.

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Fun fact, BAMN ("By any means necessary") is the group of true believers that was directing Antifa. They were the ones that set up the battle for berkely that tried to get Milo, Shapiro, and Coulter lynched, the ones that have arranged for multiple "migrant" caravans, etc etc. They're a spinoff/rebranding of the Revolutionary Worker's League or somesuch, and are ultimately Trotskyists, not Marxists. Trotsky was the "the pipebombs will continue until you give us true communism" guy that was so annoying Stalin had him killed. And BAMN has direct ties to NAMBLA, being founded by the same people or somesuch.
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Trotsky WAS Marxist you donut
 
AstaSilva dijo:
Nobody's going to throw you rainbows. Forums are for the chronically online. These are the people who thought Thomas Massie would win re-election.
On the Vance Viability Question, certain sources actually claim the opposite. Sources from 2024 to 2026 consistently show Vance has trouble with the Boomers. And the boomers vote in primaries more than anyone else. Especially caucuses like early GOP primary states.

So again, the internet will say Vance is strong, as they said Massie was strong.
But the metrics tell a different story. And a trillion Texas voters or Dakota voters won't make a difference in Iowa or New Hampshire.
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massie is a stupid faggot and so are you.
 
Air support dijo:
So that means the entire neo con movement is Marxist.
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No. As I remember it was that they were ex-Trotskyites. Not current Trotskyites.

They brought their Trotskyite habits and attitudes of world revolution but not the ideology itself.

Anyways Trotsky vs Stalin was a fight within Marxism-Leninism.
 
cain_destroyer1 dijo:
Doesnt Jesus clearly state "Leave unto Ceaser what is Ceasers and leave unto God what is God's"?

Essentially meaning Christians shouldnt play politics and focus on doing God's work. So fuck off.

Seems the catholic church is having the same problem every institution is. The leaders becoming left aligned while the members are actually conservative
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FatalTater dijo:
Jesus said to "render unto Ceasar what is Caesars, and to God what is God's" and he was talking about paying taxes.
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Basically what Jesus was saying was "If you believe in my father, then give to the church and tell Caesar to get lost. If you don't believe in my father, then pay taxes to Caesar and don't give to the church". A lot of people misinterpret this statement to mean pay both your taxes and donate to the church but Jesus was actually saying that if you believe in my father, then don't pay your taxes and give to the church instead.
 
bookers dijo:
I fuckin miss hulk hogan
not the shitty poster here, the actual hulkster.
he would have loved the 250 celebration.
it's a shame he couldn't be there for it.
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He would've been decked out in red, white, and blue, just absolutely hyping up the big celebrations all over the US...
It would've been awesome.
 
Mysterious Girlfriend X dijo:
The civil conflict was the Obama era race riots, which culminated in 2020. They're not going to be able to recreate that. People don't have the patience for that anymore, and they know it. That's why you haven't seen any attempts to recreate those riots, despite the numerous opportunities they've had to do so. There have been more than enough dead black thugs between then and now, and they haven't even tried with any of them. They've tried harder to form movements (not even riots) around those idiots who got themselves killed attacking ICE, and those clowns were white.
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This is namely because of bodycams in regards to the nigs. Bodycams are publicly available and as a result anyone can go online and look up your local bodycam channel to watch the day to day of cops, Spoiler, they deal with the worst of humanity.

Turns out you can't exactly have very big race riots when the nig you're supposed to be fighting for is on camera lunging at the police like some fucking ghoulish goddamn monster.

Now, political assassination and terrorism? That's the ticket now, Trump's had what? three, four attempts on his life? We all know what happened to Charlie, and those same people talk daily about how they "wish someone would" and while sad, there's no shortage of mentally ill lunatics out there, the existence of this site is a testament to THAT fact. All they need to do is keep saying that "someone needs to do something" and eventually someone will.

However, those incidents are also giving their opponents martyrs and making the independents (and even dems) start to increasingly side with the right because well.....

when one side is behaving like a bunch of goddamn bloodthirsty assholes and looks like a bunch of degenerate freaks, and the other is just..... normal people. Who do you side with? The normal fucking people.

TLDR; race riots are old news, political assassination is the new hotness, new problem for left, political assassination is also something that tends to stick with the average voter, and they remember that shit on election night.
 
LeChampion1992 dijo:
Not saying is joever or Libs will win forever but im saying things are getting worse and right wingers, patriotic Americans and anyone who is sane needs to stop sitting on their laurels. Again the left keeps trying the right has to keep it's fight up too.
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We had the perfect opportunity to fight back after the Charlie Kirk assassination, and we did nothing. At this point we deserve the mockery and blowback we're going to get when Democrats inevitably take back office.

Now, the morale is gone. We are inching ever closer to a birthright citizenship decision that will end American sovereignty once and for all and Trump has done absolutely nothing to assuage people's concerns. Everyone involved in this administration should be ashamed of themselves.

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LeChampion1992 dijo:
Again the media has spun so much bullshit you have people who believe that maga is out here doing TND and TTD on people when anyone who is honest knows that maga loves trans people (look at blaire white) and (America worships black people even right wingers
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My pet theory is that the media machine is/has been choking for sometime now.

The IDEA that the intelligence services compromised the MSM seems to be a fucking fact. like how mike benz tracked how they workshop shit and set the narative.

The money got cut off and the people who should be making calls on the narative and message arent really bring their A game anymore.

I m impressed really.
 
AnitaSarsleezian dijo:
Basically what Jesus was saying was "If you believe in my father, then give to the church and tell Caesar to get lost. If you don't believe in my father, then pay taxes to Caesar and don't give to the church". A lot of people misinterpret this statement to mean pay both your taxes and donate to the church but Jesus was actually saying that if you believe in my father, then don't pay your taxes and give to the church instead.
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I thought the point of it was to tell Christians how to live in harmony with the Roman Empire/government. To pay both. The idea being you can exist with your faith in this giant political system, still being a believer and not compromising your values but not fighting the system, agitating, getting arrested for your religion, etc.

It worked. Christians were able to exist inside the Empire, first underground, then openly. There were persecutions, sure. But because they paid their taxes and followed the laws they weren't doing more to antagonize the authorities and giving extra reasons to be arrested or killed. Contrast that with the insular attitude of the Jews (and many other religions).

This allowed the Christians to fully take over the Empire in 300 years from the inside out.
 
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