💬 Off-Topic Losing people to transgenderism support thread - Support group for trans widows and other people who lost loved ones to troonism

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When I was in high-school (2012-2016) there was a cute chubby emo Chinese girl that I had a bit of a crush on and we were sweet on eachother. Nowadays, she's a deranged pooner who looks nothing like she did back then and gets banned on Facebook constantly for Fedposting and ban evading.

It's awful to see because she was super cute as a normal girl *sigh*
UPDATE! So it turns out she had undiagnosed Bipolar disorder and finally got some help and is no longer pooned out. She posted for the first time in 3 years after being banned on FB for fedposting and is back to her old emo self. BUT, she's a big stoner and lesbian dating a black dyke. :story: At least she's not a pooner anymore.
 
UPDATE! So it turns out she had undiagnosed Bipolar disorder and finally got some help and is no longer pooned out. She posted for the first time in 3 years after being banned on FB for fedposting and is back to her old emo self.
Good to hear!

BUT, she's a big stoner and lesbian dating a black dyke. :story:
Well, you can't win em all.

At least she's not a pooner anymore.
It's the small steps that count!
 
Well, it finally happened.

I have been fortunate enough to not know any trannies personally until this week. My best friends' cousin decided he "wants to become the woman he was always meant to be" for pride month on social media. The post was received with collective groans and sighs, for reference, this is in the New England area. The family knows this is going to be a disaster due to his appearance and situation. The guy is in his 30s, fat, depressed and autistic. He looks like Katherine Lorelai, but fatter. There is no way he could pass for a woman, ever. Everyone wants to talk him off this ledge and seek therapy for the autism and dysmorphia. They all know this is going to screw over his job prospects in current year, its no longer 2020.

He claimed he never felt like a 'man's man' which to me translates into autistic people unable to understand nuances and see the world in binary absolutism. Girl - boy, black - white. Funny thing is that he had a stint in the mental hospital and was diagnosed as autistic and was completely shocked. Everyone else in the family was surprised because the 'tism is glaringly obvious to any normie. Regardless, I will monitor the situation and see how things progress over the summer. I expect this to be a clown show. Im just glad the family isn't encouraging this behavior and trying to do damage control.
 
Well, it finally happened.

I have been fortunate enough to not know any trannies personally until this week. My best friends' cousin decided he "wants to become the woman he was always meant to be" for pride month on social media. The post was received with collective groans and sighs, for reference, this is in the New England area. The family knows this is going to be a disaster due to his appearance and situation. The guy is in his 30s, fat, depressed and autistic. He looks like Katherine Lorelai, but fatter. There is no way he could pass for a woman, ever. Everyone wants to talk him off this ledge and seek therapy for the autism and dysmorphia. They all know this is going to screw over his job prospects in current year, its no longer 2020.

He claimed he never felt like a 'man's man' which to me translates into autistic people unable to understand nuances and see the world in binary absolutism. Girl - boy, black - white. Funny thing is that he had a stint in the mental hospital and was diagnosed as autistic and was completely shocked. Everyone else in the family was surprised because the 'tism is glaringly obvious to any normie. Regardless, I will monitor the situation and see how things progress over the summer. I expect this to be a clown show. Im just glad the family isn't encouraging this behavior and trying to do damage control.
Fucking Hell. This is basically what is going on with my own cousin who is transitioning. He is on the autism spectrum, has ADHD and has also been diagnosed with some sort of anxiety disorder. Though he's not fat. He has always been an awkward and weird kid his whole life. My aunt had him and his sister later in life so I was already a young adult once he hit double digits in age and my parents and siblings always spoke about how odd he was. My mom sent me a video of him recently and he talks with a bit of a lisp now. I immediately thought that he is probably just gay and has convinced himself that he is trans. But on the other hand, the lisp is something I don't recall him having when I last saw him two years ago. So now I'm starting to wonder if his feminine lisp is something he is putting on as a part of believing he is trans and maybe he isn't even gay either. When my mom first told me the news, she even said she doesn't believe he'll pass as an attractive woman. I simply responded ''They never do."

They (aunt, uncle, cousins) have been going to family therapy for a while now and apparently this is when the whole transgenderism shit started to eventually come to light. It is entirely possible that even if your friend’s cousin did seek therapy, the therapist would just enable this belief. I believe that is exactly what is happening with my own family's situation.
 
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My mom sent me a video of him recently and he talks with a bit of a lisp now. I immediately thought that he is probably just gay and has convinced himself that he is trans. But on the other hand, the lisp is something I don't recall him having when I last saw him two years ago. So now I'm starting to wonder if his feminine lisp is something he is putting on as a part of believing he is trans and maybe he isn't even gay either.
This was how my friend/ex-bf started. I met up with him for the first time in a few years and he spoke with a lisp which he'd never had. He was wearing a She-Ra (nugen) shirt and said something about how gay and trans comic creators were his friends. I thought, whatever, he was always super nerdy and also bi even though he almost exclusively dated women and eventually married one. But the forced lisp stuck out to me and I kept thinking the next time I see him, he's gonna say he's transitioning, this is it. Which is exactly what happened a couple years after.

I think there must be youtube video tutorials on DIY vocal coaching and that's part of it. A more recent time I saw my friend, he was not only speaking in an unnatural feminine cadence, but he was trying to adopt "demure" mannerisms that felt more like they were straight out of anime than any normal woman would do. It was extremely unsettling. They all act like cartoonish caricatures of what they think women are. Fucking insulting.
 
The relationship where I learned that smart assholes aren’t just damaged guys who need a little compassion was also where I hit peak trans. A decade later he is now detranstioned on facebook, has a job as an ems worker and is reposting Not the Bee. I’m almost tempted to say hi, but I’m pretty sure this is just the other end of the spectrum….
 
So, my ex-boyfriend trooned out recently. About a year or so ago, he and I started talking again, and we were back on good terms. He's also in my friend group. Around December 2025 was when I first saw him in person for the first time in months (last time was May 2025); he was growing his hair out and had shaved all his facial hair. I grew worried that he's finally trooning out, as he also removed photos of himself on his Instagram and changed his profile picture from himself to a landscape. Finally, a couple of months ago, he invited all my friends and me to hang out at his place for movie night. He still had no facial hair and was still growing his hair out. I grew even more worried. Finally, after everyone left, I got a message from him on IG that he "identifies as a woman now" but hasn't told most of his friends and family and only told everyone else in the friend group. I am deeply saddened and devastated by this. I knew this was gonna happen for 3 years now. It was inevitable. He played the tranny game, Celeste, and listened to tranny artists and befriended a lot of trannies over the past year (including my middle school friend who pooned out in high school). He's been sucking troon dick for a while now (figuratively, but I genuinely won't be surprised if he dates a tranny). He still dresses as a guy, but I feel like he’ll try to dress as me or any of our female friends. I checked his profile a few days ago, and he now has she/her in his bio. It is so over.
 
So, my ex-boyfriend trooned out recently. About a year or so ago, he and I started talking again, and we were back on good terms. He's also in my friend group. Around December 2025 was when I first saw him in person for the first time in months (last time was May 2025); he was growing his hair out and had shaved all his facial hair. I grew worried that he's finally trooning out, as he also removed photos of himself on his Instagram and changed his profile picture from himself to a landscape. Finally, a couple of months ago, he invited all my friends and me to hang out at his place for movie night. He still had no facial hair and was still growing his hair out. I grew even more worried. Finally, after everyone left, I got a message from him on IG that he "identifies as a woman now" but hasn't told most of his friends and family and only told everyone else in the friend group. I am deeply saddened and devastated by this. I knew this was gonna happen for 3 years now. It was inevitable. He played the tranny game, Celeste, and listened to tranny artists and befriended a lot of trannies over the past year (including my middle school friend who pooned out in high school). He's been sucking troon dick for a while now (figuratively, but I genuinely won't be surprised if he dates a tranny). He still dresses as a guy, but I feel like he’ll try to dress as me or any of our female friends. I checked his profile a few days ago, and he now has she/her in his bio. It is so over.

Remove him out of your life because the chance is high that he is going to skinwalk you.
 
A fan community I’m in recently had a prolific member kill himself at 19 because he still didn’t feel comfortable in his skin after trooning out. I didn’t know him personally, but from what I’ve heard (and what little I saw of him when he was alive), he was an alright guy who was a media preservation autist. Another self-hating nerd sold a fatal lie.
 
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Friend of mine, who I've been pretty open with my views with and who has pushed back on them, has had his brother - spotty work history, substance abuse, stints as a NEET - troon out.

It's a bit of a shame to watch it happen up-close, to know he'll be twisting himself into pretzel-knots to keep telling himself that this will be a good thing for his brother, but I guess it's a case of having to actually contend with what you advocate. I've known a few other people to have something similar happen, who then keep towing the line, but that's largely because they didn't actually care about their relation that transitioned. This guy wants his brother to get better, and so he's going to desperately believe and hope that I've got the wrong idea and that this'll finally be the turn that helps the guy get it together. He's further already dealt with the loss of other members of his family, and has on some level instilled himself with a drive to help the rest through their struggles, so he'll doubtless throw himself behind this and try to support it.

And I mean, I'm one of those truscum guys who does believe in an extremely-small rounding-error amount of people who genuinely have GD who can genuinely eke out some small comfort by engaging in this weird social ritual, but I really don't think it applies at-all here. The real worry for my friend is that I know he's clear-headed enough where even if he talks the talk and walks the walk, he'll recognize his brother's degeneration. And he'll have to keep pretending it's somehow empowerment and liberation, unless he wants his social group to pulls knives and carve him into a pariah.

Perhaps, then, I'll get to be an outlet of sorts - but what am I supposed to say? Once someone falls into the cult, I'm not of the opinion that anything can really be done about it. 'Give up on your family getting out of this' is a horrendously callous sentiment, and yet it's necessary to not get caught up in the fallout. Once it's clear that it's just a bridge to misery, it's already too late to intervene - and so even appealing to blood and fraternity becomes a futile effort that just leads to total social ostracization, as one watches the handmaidens swoop in to assist Thanatos.
 
As of today, I no longer have one of my brothers. My mother told me that he identifies as a woman now and that he is choosing to go by a name that is strikingly close to his wife's name. I am completely fucking floored.
He now owns one of the trans pride flags and is growing out his hair . God damn, I am very sad
 
I strongly suspect that one of my first boyfriends turned into a troon, but I have no way to officially confirm it.

Risk factors:
-Autism
-Being raised by a liberal single mom with a liberal big sister
-Overbearing mom
-Terminally online
-Obsessed with anime and video games
-Only watched anime porn
-Long hair because he thought it was pretty, aforementioned mom basically outright forbid him to cut it
-NEET lifestyle
-Alcoholic
-British

His online footprint has disappeared when he had an obsession with using the same user name everywhere.
There’s 0% chance he’s no longer anywhere online, he’s either dead (very unlikely or his mom would be posting about her dear dead austistic son) or living as a layydeee now.

We used to watch Little Britain together, wonder how he feels about being the embodiment of Emily Howard
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Risk factors:
-British
In terms of nationality, isn't being American the biggest risk factor for trooning/pooning-out? I thought that the US was the troon capital of the world with how much it is pushed by US culture and our mental health specialists are constantly pinkpilling vulnerable teenagers and adults and encouraging HRT and top/bottom surgery.

That bit of levity aside, every family and group of acquaintances has their oddballs. However, it is the sign of the times that we also have to be watchful that said eccentrics are also going to hop on the troon train. In most cases it is best to distance yourself from them the moment they troon-out no matter how painful it will be. Recommend mental help if you can, but the mental health world in my country regarding "trans issues" has become politicized and borked from the spectre of being accused of "transphobia" or "conversion therapy". Because of this, most American mental health professionals are probably just going to push anybody thinking of trooning/pooning-out further down the path.
 
In terms of nationality, isn't being American the biggest risk factor for trooning/pooning-out? I thought that the US was the troon capital of the world with how much it is pushed by US culture and our mental health specialists are constantly pinkpilling vulnerable teenagers and adults and encouraging HRT and top/bottom surgery.

That bit of levity aside, every family and group of acquaintances has their oddballs. However, it is the sign of the times that we also have to be watchful that said eccentrics are also going to hop on the troon train. In most cases it is best to distance yourself from them the moment they troon-out no matter how painful it will be. Recommend mental help if you can, but the mental health world in my country regarding "trans issues" has become politicized and borked from the spectre of being accused of "transphobia" or "conversion therapy". Because of this, most American mental health professionals are probably just going to push anybody thinking of trooning/pooning-out further down the path.
It’s frustrating the living shit out of me that I can’t find an online footprint for this guy after ‘22.
At that point he still identified as a man and still had the long hair at a Norwood 3, but has “he/him” pronouns in his bio (ru-roh).

Why does the UK make things so fucking hard to phonebook people?
 
It’s frustrating the living shit out of me that I can’t find an online footprint for this guy after ‘22.
I dunno; could always be one of those The Last Starfighter situations.

Nothing from his mom's social media? You'd think she'd either be loudly pro-troon or loudly anti-troon, depending.
 
I met a cousin of mine (let's call him Max) that is graduating high school and his parents held a party for him for all us relatives. While I was in the car, my grandma said "I saw his grad photos and he's wearing eyeliner. I heard he changed his name to Evangeline." I guess that's two of my cousins now, including a theyfab who dressed normally for my aunt's funeral I saw a year ago. But the name kind of intrigued me. Evangeline. It sounds Hispanic which is kind of weird for a pasty-white teenager. I expected the reunion to be hilarious chaos as he strutted about in a dress or whatever. Unfortunately, it ended up pretty normal and fun as I got to talk to many of my other relatives. The grad photo is awkward as hell though. He scribbled eyeliner on his face like a crayon and his parents looked dead inside. Max was pretty shy, but he dressed like a normal guy and didn't discuss any gender stuff. He showed me his new gaming PC and we talked a bit about nerdy stuff like video games and anime. I saw that there was some anime-girl-esque drawings posted next to pics of his face. Dunno if that was an OC or some tranny persona of himself, didn't ask. We shared Instagrams, and it just dawned on me.
He had tons of merch of the Neon Genesis Evangelion characters. Evangeline.
HE FUCKING NAMED HIMSELF AFTER NEON GENESIS EVANGELION.
Anyways, Max's going to a private $70,000 a year college for animation (I saw his drawings...they're not very good...). None of my business, good for him, etc, etc, I'm sure he will have a very promising career as a Starbucks barista, etc, etc. Oh well. I'm not his parent. Just wishing the best for my young cousin. Hope he figures out that that shit is major embarrassing and grows out of it.
 
I dunno; could always be one of those The Last Starfighter situations.

Nothing from his mom's social media? You'd think she'd either be loudly pro-troon or loudly anti-troon, depending.
She’s loudly pro troon pro LGBT anti Donald Trump (even though she hasn’t been to the US in close to 30 years).
 
I dunno; could always be one of those The Last Starfighter situations.

Nothing from his mom's social media? You'd think she'd either be loudly pro-troon or loudly anti-troon, depending.
As in the original person being replaced by a Beta unit while he goes off to save the galaxy? In this case this particular Beta unit might be defective.
 
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