Incels.is (Previously known as /r/incels) - Subreddit's banned, entitled Manchildren whine about why they can't get laid.

[Hypnotoad]

Incel gets paid a visit from FBI- doesn't end well

https://youtu.be/7arSGBh2pqo

 

[Duke Nukem]

Incel gets paid a visit from FBI- doesn't end well

https://youtu.be/7arSGBh2pqo

The dumbest part is that he posted pictures of his face on the same account. Made the glow-in-the-darks' job a little bit easier.

I understand that we all have to blow off steam now and then but Deputy Dipshit here crossed a couple of lines, and self-doxed to some degree.

 

[Hildy's interior cuckshed]

I have a solution for curing inceldom.

Spoiler: Duke's Magical Cure For Inceldom

1. Download Tinder. Build your profile.
2. Buy a big box of condoms.
3. Start swiping, ignore anyone you actually find attractive, swipe right only on those who are obese, look like they don't shower, have low self-esteem, and/or non-natural hair colors. Obsessive shitposting about woke political crap a plus.
4. Hope for a response. Pretend to be interested long enough to meet in person.
5. Hope for the best, but expect to go home empty handed, but since you didn't lose out to someone you actually find attractive, it's not too bad.
6. If you're successful, don't forget the condom, and no matter what happens, be thankful you made it this far. The next morning, you'll probably want to take an extra long hot shower. With bleach.
7. If not successful, try again. It's not like you're gonna marry the fugly fat bitch.
8. If you don't want to try again, don't complain. You're not going to be able to get anything of actual quality. This is the best a fedora wearing incel Redditor like you can do.

Alternative strategy:

1. Spend the first 3 decades of your life as a fat, autistic, terminally online shut-in
2. Post "I want to start a family." on the internet
3. Spend the next half a decade shitting yourself and doing nothing
4. ???
5. Profit!

Guaranteed to work.

 

[Duke Nukem]

Alternative strategy:

1. Spend the first 3 decades of your life as a fat, autistic, terminally online shut-in
2. Post "I want to start a family." on the internet
3. Spend the next half a decade shitting yourself and doing nothing
4. ???
5. Profit!

Guaranteed to work.

But that's what they already do. They base their lives around whether or not they have a girlfriend and let it dictate everything. Most of them just want a hookup and won't admit it. All of their comments are about how "so-and-so is fucking Chad and Tyrone" but they never talk about how "I'd like to date someone who has things in common with me" or anything like that. It's all about sex and validation, the hypothetical girlfriend's needs don't matter.

I do wonder what would happen if your stereotypical incel switched bodies with a "Chad" for a week. I doubt they'd succeed even if given all the tools, support, and resources in the world.

 

[Chiang Kai-shek]

All of their comments are about how "so-and-so is fucking Chad and Tyrone"

I’ve noticed they hyper fixate on that. It’s mental cuckery in my opinion.

I do wonder what would happen if your stereotypical incel switched bodies with a "Chad" for a week. I doubt they'd succeed even if given all the tools, support, and resources in the world.

Now this is the creativity that Hollywood has been lacking!

 

[Duke Nukem]

I’ve noticed they hyper fixate on that. It’s mental cuckery in my opinion.


Now this is the creativity that Hollywood has been lacking!

Let's be honest, it's doing them no favors to be concerned about that. The reality is that they need to find something in their lives that they enjoy that doesn't have anything to do with dating. Honestly it doesn't matter what activity it is. They'd be better off in the long run.

Hollywood really warped the expectations of many social outcasts, making them believe that they deserve the woman of their dreams. So of course they'd find a way to screw up this idea.

 

[Maker's Mark]

Listened to the recent DBDR video. He may be a fat, short, balding, microdicked kleinfelters goblin. But his parents are the real culprits for his failures. I wouldn’t blame him if he stuck a gun in his mouth and blew his brains out right in front of his boomer mom when he finally snaps.

 

[umseriously]

 

[Agares]

Listened to the recent DBDR video. He may be a fat, short, balding, microdicked kleinfelters goblin. But his parents are the real culprits for his failures. I wouldn’t blame him if he stuck a gun in his mouth and blew his brains out right in front of his boomer mom when he finally snaps.

No wonder his dad was an alcoholic. I have no idea what he saw in DBDR's mom or how he put up with her without the bottle.

Having an abusive mom is one of the worst starts a young man can have. Your first experience with women being neuroticism, belittling and henpecking is fucking hard to unlearn. Combine that with hormonal issues and an unsympathetic society and it never even began.

 

[ACertainImmortal]

All in all, eventually I reach a point where I come to

But that's what they already do. They base their lives around whether or not they have a girlfriend and let it dictate everything. Most of them just want a hookup and won't admit it. All of their comments are about how "so-and-so is fucking Chad and Tyrone" but they never talk about how "I'd like to date someone who has things in common with me" or anything like that. It's all about sex and validation, the hypothetical girlfriend's needs don't matter.

I do wonder what would happen if your stereotypical incel switched bodies with a "Chad" for a week. I doubt they'd succeed even if given all the tools, support, and resources in the world.

Even chads who are at this upper echelon of looks need some level of proximity and social skills to have the ludicriously high levels of sex a lot of people in the incel sphere state chads can have. Yes, that doesn't mean you need to be a good person or really be all that interesting of a person, but there is some base social rules and NTypicality you need to possess.

Not even mentioning that a lot of dating is right time right place. Looks can help make those frequencies of options high but it won't do anything else.

 

[PPEcel]

The reality is that they need to find something in their lives that they enjoy that doesn't have anything to do with dating. Honestly it doesn't matter what activity it is. They'd be better off in the long run.

This is the blackpill in a nutshell—just give up and do something else. What that "something else" is is up to the individual. But I'd be remiss to not point out that society rubs sex in everyone's faces all the time, and if you are a single man past a certain age you are for all intents and purposes treated like a leper. (The same might be true for single women past a certain age, but to a far lesser extent.) There's also the fact that, as a single person, your tax dollars will subsidize the cost of raising other people's children, so the cuckery isn't just mental; it's enforced by the state.

As I already canvassed some pages ago, there is no avoiding the fact that someone is going to feel downtrodden and beaten down if they are unsuccessful at something that most of their peers have been able to accomplish, like not getting into biglaw as a student at a T14 law school or being in middle management as an aspiring girlboss.

Now, do you really expect people on a forum for those who feel downtrodden and beaten down to do anything other than post about being downtrodden and beaten down?

Hollywood really warped the expectations of many social outcasts, making them believe that they deserve the woman of their dreams. So of course they'd find a way to screw up this idea.

Hollywood needs to have more movies where things don't go well for the protagonist instead of just pushing out the same repackaged goyslop every few years.

 

[Duke Nukem]

This is the blackpill in a nutshell—just give up and do something else. What that "something else" is is up to the individual. But I'd be remiss to not point out that society rubs sex in everyone's faces all the time, and if you are a single man past a certain age you are for all intents and purposes treated like a leper. (The same might be true for single women past a certain age, but to a far lesser extent.) There's also the fact that, as a single person, your tax dollars will subsidize the cost of raising other people's children, so the cuckery isn't just mental; it's enforced by the state.

As I already canvassed some pages ago, there is no avoiding the fact that someone is going to feel downtrodden and beaten down if they are unsuccessful at something that most of their peers have been able to accomplish, like not getting into biglaw as a student at a T14 law school or being in middle management as an aspiring girlboss.

Now, do you really expect people on a forum for those who feel downtrodden and beaten down to do anything other than post about being downtrodden and beaten down?

The incels also don't realize that relationships can go wrong too. And they're obsessed with finding someone who doesn't have any previous partners. I dunno what would be worse though, losing your virginity to a whore, or dying a KHHV like so many of them claim to be.

Women don't like spergs but that's just reality. Incels are worse.

Hollywood needs to have more movies where things don't go well for the protagonist instead of just pushing out the same repackaged goyslop every few years.

I want to see tragic, fucked up, blackpill type shit in the movies. But sadly that doesn't sell tickets like "haha funny virgin man get pusspuss" type shit does.

 

[PPEcel]

The incels also don't realize that relationships can go wrong too.

True. Some incels have a fantasy that they will "ascend," and then that is the endgame. They don't realize that they would simply be the dog who caught the car.

And they're obsessed with finding someone who doesn't have any previous partners.

I don't think that's true for the majority of incels. Most know (past the age of 22) that that is basically an impossibility.

I dunno what would be worse though, losing your virginity to a whore, or dying a KHHV like so many of them claim to be.

I don't see the big deal in losing your virginity to a whore. Sex is transactional and devoid of emotion for most zoomers anyway. I highly doubt most guys enjoy picking someone up, pretending that they're interested in a foid's retarded political opinions over dinner, paying for dinner, getting nothing more than a peck on a cheek, and then rinse and repeat twice before finally scoring. Even if you're a Chad on Hinge or Tinder, how much of an emotional bond do you have with someone you met 15 minutes ago? At least the whore is honest about the transactional aspect of the arrangement, instead of forcing you to pretend that you care about her more than the remainder of your harem.

Women don't like spergs but that's just reality. Incels are worse.

Yes, you've driven that point home. Autism is debilitating. In fact, so debilitating that some have reached the conclusion that they have no incentive to hide their powerlevel, because attempting to do so would not meaningfully change their sexual / romantic prospects. Autistic incels are worse, but it's not like their life would significantly change even if they tried.

I want to see tragic, fucked up, blackpill type shit in the movies. But sadly that doesn't sell tickets like "haha funny virgin man get pusspuss" type shit does.

That's because the average man's experience (when it comes to scoring someone who looks like an 8/10+ actress) is closer to that of the "funny virgin man" than a frat boy, and the "funny virgin man" is far more relatable. I too want to see tragic, fucked up, blackpill type shit in the movies, the same way I want crime TV shows to be legally realistic and show the bureaucratic hoops involved in getting a subpoena or a warrant, etc. But I guess neither is entertaining.

 

[Duke Nukem]

@PPEcel I honestly believe they see their first time having sex as a rite of passage, when in reality, people of all shapes, sizes, and colors are in relationships (not all of which are perfect, by the way). They don't realize that keeping her invested in you is the real challenge, and I don't honestly believe many of them have the gumption for that.

I do think a lot of them have this idea that a woman who's had previous partners is somehow "ruined" but I honestly believe it's more of the idea that incels just don't feel like they measure up. It's really strange, they have an inferiority complex because they feel like no woman will ever be attracted to them, and yet superior to them because "women are dumb because they fuck Chads." It's a puzzling and contradictory ideology.

Some of what they say probably is true to some degree, but a lot of the problems they have are largely of their own doing. With the exception of being born autistic, but there are things you can do to minimize and cope with certain aspects of it. If you're autistic and really want to date, learn to hide that shit and be as normie as possible, at least with your public face.

And as far as movies go, I outgrew Judd Apatow years ago.

 

[ACertainImmortal]

@PPEcel I honestly believe they see their first time having sex as a rite of passage, when in reality, people of all shapes, sizes, and colors are in relationships (not all of which are perfect, by the way). They don't realize that keeping her invested in you is the real challenge, and I don't honestly believe many of them have the gumption for that.

I do think a lot of them have this idea that a woman who's had previous partners is somehow "ruined" but I honestly believe it's more of the idea that incels just don't feel like they measure up. It's really strange, they have an inferiority complex because they feel like no woman will ever be attracted to them, and yet superior to them because "women are dumb because they fuck Chads." It's a puzzling and contradictory ideology.

Some of what they say probably is true to some degree, but a lot of the problems they have are largely of their own doing. With the exception of being born autistic, but there are things you can do to minimize and cope with certain aspects of it. If you're autistic and really want to date, learn to hide that shit and be as normie as possible, at least with your public face.

And as far as movies go, I outgrew Judd Apatow years ago.

Good points, especially the being invested in her part. That's the real issue that is genuinely blackpilling. While this was always the case in the past, a lot of relationships were never really this romantic, glorious thing - and this remains the case even in the present day. Women don't need to settle down in the western world yes, but there is quite a portion amongst the current relationships crowd of Gen Z that do. With inflation rising and the current job market, what most men compensate by (money) becomes something that isn't as useful anymore or really special with women making more on avg than men. The only way to really stand out in this world is to be exceptionally charismatic (really depends on subjective tastes, your circumstances in life and is more often a result of proximity and social circle, attributes you can't really control), very good looking and/or tall, have some level of status (as in actual status), or have a good social circle/proximity.


Otherwise, you are going to have to accept the fact that you as a guy are way more expendable in the relationship. That's jut how it is. Best you really can do is hope to vet the girl as best as you can.

(I didn't add personaltiy and likeability here cause it is just chance based for all intents and purposes. Not all relationships have the click, that sort of moment where you really start engaging with the other party more deeply. With an increase in social isolation, rise of social media platforms, this general trend of "globalizing" internet culture, etc. the avg dude isn't going to have this unique personality or a sense of self that really stands out. That just leaves you stuck, relying on factors that are mostly out of your control or doing the best you can to serve as a financial/emotional couch for a girl.).

 

[ACertainImmortal]

@PPEcel @Duke Nukem @Qonas @Vonel


Life just isn't really fair at the end of the day. I think that's the core aspect that really spirals people out of control. Many of you guys mentioned mainstream modern media and while that is an important factor, honestly I think the root of the issue is just more deeper. The past (1950s, whatever) "traditional" era was maintained by false hope and un-natural constraints, and while the modern world is also like that too, in that era, it favored men more, and also forced the world into running in a way that could fuel these core sentiments one has about dating and really just the world too. This idea of needing to do these sorts of tasks, act this sort of way, the RedPill and "self improvement flagellation" are relics of old. Relationships not bounded by constraints will never form this way, success in finance never comes this way, and anything you can say will certainly lead to this greater outcome will no longer ever be the case.

I remember seeing a video of this blonde haired dude who was rather good looking (autists.org will prob call him a HTN) who was malding and getting pissed over the fact that even after "ascending" he is still at a stump in dating and his friends who look much worse than he is (prob the case he never showed photos) were dating just fine. This is what an already above average incel will face if he doesn't get anything else in his life in check. If your below this level, you won't even make it.

 

[Duke Nukem]

@ACertainImmortal definitely very good points, even if you're not autistic or incel, your merits as a man in any relationship are heavily nerfed compared to past years. With women making their own money, maybe more than most men do at times, it's not something you can use, and yet, many of these women want to date a man who makes more money than they do, and has the physical traits and other factors that incel were complaining about in the first place.

A lot of guys who don't go full incel do end up becoming an emotional tampon/human ATM for women they desperately would like to date (but can't). Keep trying, fedorabros, she'll fall in love with you eventually!

 

[Jonkinator]

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[PPEcel]

The tenets of the "blackpill" are very simple at its core. It can be distilled into the "determinism" prong and the "nihilism" prong.

The determinism prong is that there exists a gendered and racialized hierarchy of sexual attractiveness, based largely on variables that are immutable and/or predetermined at birth. (These same variables also determine life outcomes beyond sex and romance.) The nihilism prong is an application of the determinism prong. It simply suggests that for men below a certain threshold, they should give up on sex and romance, because it is an irrational endeavour—that is, on a balance of probabilities, the expected negatives outweigh the expected positives.

No reasonable person objects to the truth of the determinism prong, though there are quite a few unreasonable people out there. The nihilism prong is what most people object to. But the problem with most objections is that they don't object to the truth or falsity of the nihilism prong itself; they object to the social consequences of the nihilism prong being accepted.

Part of this has to do with humans being socially conditioned to feel disgust at unproductive men; I suspect there is an evolutionary basis for this. That's why there's a lot of over-the-top rhetoric about the blackpill being "spiritual decay" or "cultural rot" and its adherents being "pathetic". But I will acknowledge that there are negative externalities to the blackpill: If a man accepts he has no prospect of ever starting a family, he will have little incentive to be ambitious—he will do the bare minimum needed to keep a roof over his head and slop in his belly. He can alleviate his isolation with games and sedate his urges with pornography. (There's a bit of a "chicken-and-egg" discussion to be had about whether it is NEEThood that causes romantic struggles; or whether it is the romantic struggle that causes NEEThood, but I digress.) If the aforementioned man's family members are willing and able to support this lifestyle then he will not need to do anything at all.

But none of this is an argument against the blackpill itself. What someone chooses to do with the blackpill is up to them entirely. (It is also up to the individual, based on their lived experience, to decide whether they are above or below the threshold of "giving up".) Someone who chooses to give up could find some reason to stay productive—like a deep intellectual interest in their profession. Or maybe they have an expensive hobby, like visiting every Michelin-starred restaurant in the country, or sleeping with a high-end escort every month, that isn't compatible with NEEThood.

Someone could also choose to rot at home, or kill themselves, or shoot up a school. Obviously, I'd prefer that the users on the forum I moderate choose alternatives, but no one on any forum, Discord server, or Reddit comment section, is responsible for what any other internet stranger does with their life. To say otherwise would be to deny their (and my) individual agency.

Addressing particular points:

They don't realize that keeping her invested in you is the real challenge, and I don't honestly believe many of them have the gumption for that.

Good points, especially the being invested in her part.

Incels being ignorant of how relationships work. Yes! Obviously, people who don't have direct experience with things might not actually know how they work. But from their POV this is putting the cart before the horse. They're hyper-fixated with initiating the relationship (and not maintaining them) because initiating the relationship is the first barrier. To be concerned about the difficulty of keeping a girlfriend who has yet to materialise would be like a law student who is concerned about partnership prospects when he has yet to receive a return offer and pass the bar exam.

It's really strange, they have an inferiority complex because they feel like no woman will ever be attracted to them, and yet superior to them because "women are dumb because they fuck Chads." It's a puzzling and contradictory ideology.

It's not puzzling or contradictory for an incel to have an inferiority complex over their appearance and simultaneously feel superior to women who "are dumb because they fuck Chads." If you are online enough to see enough gender war / dating discourse, it's not uncommon to see women complain about being in what they describe as a "situationship" (i.e. they are one of several women in a Chad's roster instead of being in an exclusive relationship, or in a relationship where the Chad does not seem to care very much.) Women are "dumb" in this context because they are only willing to entertain men out of their league, but relentlessly complain about being the expendable one in the "situationship". That's called having your cake and eating it. The sense of superiority comes from having the gumption to acknowledge hard truths (i.e. one's position on the social hierarchy) which women generally are in denial about. (Side note: Notice that the root word of "situationship" conveniently strips women of individual agency, as if being in a roster or a subpar relationship was a "situation" that was foisted upon them as opposed to a consensual state of affairs they voluntarily engaged in.)

The past (1950s, whatever) "traditional" era was maintained by false hope and un-natural constraints, and while the modern world is also like that too, in that era, it favored men more, and also forced the world into running in a way that could fuel these core sentiments one has about dating and really just the world too.

Our current era also has unnatural constraints: Government-funded degrees and civil rights law artificially prop up the earnings of young women vis-a-vis young men. Without writing an entire essay I'll make two points: 1) Women are now overrepresented in higher education, but are far more likely to not pay back their student loans. The same degrees that allow women to look down on men are hence the result of a taxpayer benefit that disproportionately benefits women. If we actually allowed the free market to decide who would get a university education the landscape would be very different. 2) Even when women had equal educational and career opportunities (most Western societies reached this point in the late 1970s/early 80s), men were still overrepresented in high-income career paths. The logical explanation is that men self-selected into these career paths because a man's ability to start a family was tied to having an income; a woman's ability was not. But the powers that be decided that disparate outcomes was necessarily evidence of discrimination, and responded with actual discrimination in the other direction, causing the feminization of entire segments of the economy.

 

[drammamean]

@PPEcel @Duke Nukem @Qonas @Vonel


Life just isn't really fair at the end of the day. I think that's the core aspect that really spirals people out of control. Many of you guys mentioned mainstream modern media and while that is an important factor, honestly I think the root of the issue is just more deeper. The past (1950s, whatever) "traditional" era was maintained by false hope and un-natural constraints, and while the modern world is also like that too, in that era, it favored men more, and also forced the world into running in a way that could fuel these core sentiments one has about dating and really just the world too. This idea of needing to do these sorts of tasks, act this sort of way, the RedPill and "self improvement flagellation" are relics of old. Relationships not bounded by constraints will never form this way, success in finance never comes this way, and anything you can say will certainly lead to this greater outcome will no longer ever be the case.

I remember seeing a video of this blonde haired dude who was rather good looking (autists.org will prob call him a HTN) who was malding and getting pissed over the fact that even after "ascending" he is still at a stump in dating and his friends who look much worse than he is (prob the case he never showed photos) were dating just fine. This is what an already above average incel will face if he doesn't get anything else in his life in check. If your below this level, you won't even make it.

That last paragraph is really something else. You seriously don't notice the dissonance between the first sentence and the last two?