The Shin Megami Tensei/Persona Thread

Anyways
For those that still don't know. The Devil Summoner translation finally released, in a frankenstein-style union of the spanish and english version.
Where? CDRomance RetroGameTalk, account required n shit to download it , I know, kinda gay
If you don't want to make an account.
Download here
The patch alone here too, thanks romhack
It's not 100% completed and it probably won't get finished anytime soon because the main coder has gone on an indefinite hiatus, CJIwakura adressed it here. According to him, he did everything he could to make it playable enough.
As the download page says:
"It has an English title screen, some Spanish menus, some English ones, broken items/equipment listing but they're there, jarbled NPCs, and the story text"
One guy on the forums said that there's another prototype floating around that has the negotiation part untranslated, but I've yet to find it, probably on xitter

I tried to play it on my psp(1000), but it crashes at the Menu lol. It works on emulator doe, and hoo boy, it IS very broken, only the main story is translated, not a single NPC that lacks an "important dialogue", not even some lines from another main character if you go to another place.
Here are some examples from the first 5 minutes of me playing it:
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So yeah, that's the closest we'll get for a translated version of Devil Summoner for the time being, broken, but useful if you're desperate enough to play it.
 
So i recently finish the "famous GOTY" Metaphor:refantazio and i have a question. What da fuck was atlus smoking while writing this shit? I know this is JRPG so things will happend just cuz but cmon, atlus rly drop the ball. I have so many issues with story and characters that its impossible to talk about them all without writing huge essay. My first mayor shit plot point that was indicating the stupidity of the story was whole aftermath of child killing hag. Another one that actually completly took away any intrest in the story was whole opera arc and literaly everything whats follow after that till literaly credits, deus ex machina after deus ex machina after "plot twist" after "plot twist".

My brain is unable to grasp that some people are praising this game writing. Its not even medicore, its burining pile of dogshit
 
in persona 3 i have to help a minor get groomed to raise the social link of the magician. this is nothing in comparison
Isnt it technicly some kind reverse grooming cuz this is Tomochika who wants to marry a teacher while she doesnt even know about his intensions?

Toriumi aka Maya aka Hermit link on the other hand is diffrent story cuz this is actually a teacher who would like to score her student

Actually in every persona game since 3 (cuz i didnt played 1 and 2 so idk) you have older women being interested in the MC with Margaret on the top of the list
 
So i recently finish the "famous GOTY" Metaphor:refantazio and i have a question. What da fuck was atlus smoking while writing this shit? I know this is JRPG so things will happend just cuz but cmon, atlus rly drop the ball. I have so many issues with story and characters that its impossible to talk about them all without writing huge essay. My first mayor shit plot point that was indicating the stupidity of the story was whole aftermath of child killing hag. Another one that actually completly took away any intrest in the story was whole opera arc and literaly everything whats follow after that till literaly credits, deus ex machina after deus ex machina after "plot twist" after "plot twist".

My brain is unable to grasp that some people are praising this game writing. Its not even medicore, its burining pile of dogshit
Funny, how the game ended like such a wet fart in the end.
 
So i recently finish the "famous GOTY" Metaphor:refantazio and i have a question. What da fuck was atlus smoking while writing this shit? I know this is JRPG so things will happend just cuz but cmon, atlus rly drop the ball. I have so many issues with story and characters that its impossible to talk about them all without writing huge essay. My first mayor shit plot point that was indicating the stupidity of the story was whole aftermath of child killing hag. Another one that actually completly took away any intrest in the story was whole opera arc and literaly everything whats follow after that till literaly credits, deus ex machina after deus ex machina after "plot twist" after "plot twist".

My brain is unable to grasp that some people are praising this game writing. Its not even medicore, its burining pile of dogshit
I genuinely felt like I was going insane after that game came out. 9s and 10's everywhere and I hated almost every character and thought the writing was absolutely awful.

Thankfully Square Enix's 2026 financial statement confirms Metaphor severely underperformed so hopefully the IP dies because it has no potential or future.

This is a pretty decent takedown of the dogshit writing.
 
Metaphor and Persona 5 both go hard only if you are a teenager, otherwise they are probably some of the most childish games I've ever played, even more so than your average bing bing wahoo mario game. The extremely passive agresive attitude of the games over facing the evils of society while also taking the status quo cock and balls up the ass is whiplash inducing, Metaphor specially with how early on an NPC you are supposed to agree with tells you Taqiyya is completely fine right after judging the evil religion for excluding the other races. It's impressive how Metaphor feels completely underbaked despite taking like a decade to make, and that is probably what led to the game underperforming coupled with Atlus obsession with finishing its games with definitive editions, a trend that should have died on the PS2 generation and which 100% led to a lot of people from holding of buying the game (as was my case since i only played the game once it came out on gamepass) something even Sega admitted was a mistake. That said, I do feel that when the games focus more on interpersonal drama and scales over trying to do a moral grandstand on society, the games become much more enjoyable, with some highlights being Louis and Maruki as antagonists, although Metaphor struggled a lot with party dynamics that didn't revolve around the MC, with the only real example of those being Strohl being befuddled by Hulkenberg eating random shit, which was probably born as an over correction from people shitting on the cringe hot springs scenes or that P5 scene where they beat Ryuji's ass for not being dead.
TL;DR: Hashino is a hack who became terminally retarded after P5 and I'm curious to see if P6 is going to be actually good or even worse without him at the helm.
 
The original Megami Tensei creator is pretty active on twitter and is open about the series and answers a lot of fan questions. Here's him going over how he came up with the idea for the original novel.

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So i recently finish the "famous GOTY" Metaphor:refantazio and i have a question. What da fuck was atlus smoking while writing this shit? I know this is JRPG so things will happend just cuz but cmon, atlus rly drop the ball. I have so many issues with story and characters that its impossible to talk about them all without writing huge essay. My first mayor shit plot point that was indicating the stupidity of the story was whole aftermath of child killing hag. Another one that actually completly took away any intrest in the story was whole opera arc and literaly everything whats follow after that till literaly credits, deus ex machina after deus ex machina after "plot twist" after "plot twist".

My brain is unable to grasp that some people are praising this game writing. Its not even medicore, its burining pile of dogshit
This is genuinely the worst written game I have ever seen, that includes every troon coded game, every hard leaning AAA slopfest, Last of Us 2 and other infamous disasters, every shitty VN, every crappy flash porn game, every barely cohesive amateur project made under a month, absolutely anything and everything interactive. Dustborn and Saints Row 2022 are more bearable than this shit because at least they're so bad they're entertaining, this is just straight up awful in every regard and gameplay isn't much better. Anyone who even remotely likes this is a retard and should be actively ignored. This was made for the western tourists brought in by Persona 4/5 and nothing else, they're starting to remind me of the cancer that was the Undertale tumblr community many years ago.
 
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This is genuinely the worst written game I have ever seen, that includes every troon coded game, every hard leaning AAA slopfest, Last of Us 2 and other infamous disasters, every shitty VN, every crappy flash porn game, every barely cohesive amateur project made under a month, absolutely everything and everything interactive. Dustborn and Saints Row 2022 are more bearable than this shit because at least they're so bad they're entertaining, this is just straight up awful in every regard and gameplay isn't much better. Anyone who even remotely likes this is a retard and should be actively ignored. This was made for the western tourists brought in by Persona 4/5 and nothing else, they're starting to remind me of the cancer that was the Undertale tumblr community many years ago.
In those cases im always worring about future games. I dont know if atlus is self aware that they wrote pile of shit for a quick buck or other "testing" or that they are actually believing those retards who praise this game for plot. Cuz if they truly believe that metaphor is second comming of jesus we are all doomed.

It low key makes me wanna check Persona phantom X just to see how they handled writing in cash grab gacha game.
 
i mean i mentioned before i liked metaphor. did it have the best story? not necessarily. though compared to other big titles released in 2024 it was one of the better ones. i do think its one of the better atlus stories though. and i liked how it did combat more than in persona
 
Metaphor story went from ok to god awful. Its clear they were running out of time after the opera event and used every cliche in the book to get the story done as fast as possible with the most bland and obvious outcome. The fact they threw away an interesting villain in seconds when he became the main baddy and drop the hole "no killing" rule because otherwise, the MC would have lost, was just bad. The fact the hole race was rigged so the MC would have won was a bad idea because if one thing went wrong with that plan, it would have been over. I thought the hole point of the race was because the people in the kingdom were sick of the council and monarchy ruling everything, but i guess monarchy is fine as long as the MC is the one that rules.

The gameplay was fine for the most part but its clear that some archetypes were simply superior to others and you would only farm the weaker ones to get accesses to one good skill in that archetype or accesses to the royal archetype, which was just the default archetypes but better. Have fun having the wrong archetype in a battle and be forced to either lose or start over the game, because you cant change it mid battle. Like you can in persona, the entire series that was build around switching powers mid battle.
 
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i mean i mentioned before i liked metaphor. did it have the best story? not necessarily. though compared to other big titles released in 2024 it was one of the better ones. i do think its one of the better atlus stories though. and i liked how it did combat more than in persona
Good for you, have fun, thats whole premise of video games. I aso had fun with gameplay itself, in the end ive spend 96H in this game and im not a masochist to spend 100H in something that i 100% hate. But as i said before, there was certain point in the story the completly "broke" me with its bullshit.

I thought the hole point of the race was because the people in the kingdom were sick of the council and monarchy ruling everything, but i guess monarchy is fine as long as the MC is the one that rules.

And the best part is that in the end he just fucks off and goes for "adventure" and leaves managing the kingdom to his advisors. BUT PLOT TWIST, his advisors aso fucks off to go on adventure with him.
 
"The moment Aigis healed me, DSP sealed his fate... Entrusting their money to the playthrough, Patreon clings to a dim hope. Yet, the arcana is the means by which all is revealed... beyond the beaten path lies the absolute end. It does not matter what he could do... ragequit awaited him."
Uses Night Queen
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"The moment Aigis healed me, DSP sealed his fate
This is one moment I'll give DSP. I've seen that shit happen right in front of me.
A friend brought over his ps2 to finish persona 3 at my house and the moment Nyx got the full heal. I've never seen a man turn off a ps2 faster in my life. he didn't even say anything and just packed up and went home.

the whole game being about accepting death has prepared him for that moment.
I never had the guts to tell the boys during that game night he went straight to bed after losing in persona 3 right in front of me.
 
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