💰 Grifter Ethan Klein / h3h3Productions / "pedo_troll" - Opportunistic, two-faced e-celeb sperg with a penchant for hypocrisy and an Oedipus complex; sold out to Susan Wojcicki, the incompetent CEO of YouTube

[AltisticRight]

Is there actual information that the brothel did not employ at least one underaged girl? For which we have support because her boyfriend was sentenced to prison for trafficking her?

You go look it up. I found that the case happened like half a decade after the cockroach visited so it was a simple conclusion. His alogs were lying by deliberately conflating the two.
If an adult visits a legal brothel, they expect legal women.
The case itself got dropped and the brothel even got awarded. This means there wasn't a case in a court of law. You're free to form your opinion, the law doesn't care and neither do I. Who knows what happened and who gives a fuck? Maybe the boyfriend used a false identity too, I don't know. Why don't you google it yourself?

You're asking me to prove in the long history of that brothel, they didn't employ at least one person under the age of 17 years, 364 days, 23 hours and 59 seconds (and 9999 microseconds)?
Why don't you ask grok or something, they'll entertain ridiculously retarded questions like this.

Here's a prompt:
Hey grok, please show me brothels around me that never employed someone a femtosecond below 18, then list the nearby cliffs so I can end it for being such a fucking retard.

 

[SoyBoyCaliphate]

i love how all of you are saying the video swept for Hasan when in reality you all fell for Ethan's bullshit and feel like dumb asses.

It just boils down this exactly this. The entire pretense that h3 sweepers had gor supporting an abomination like ethan was muh child muh cps. So they have to cope and seethe and deflect because otherwise, they were just... wrong? They fell for a jewish lolcow's tricks completely. I'd be embarrassed too with the "LEX JEWTHOR ARC GUYS!!!" narrative posters on this thread were on. But now that it's not viable its just obvious they really just actual h3 fans and will gunt guard for him. It makes sense considering the growing soy-kf trend of lolcow threads often being lolcow defense force threads.

 

[Sprate Header]

To me, a brothel that employed one underaged girl is likely a brothel that lacks guardrails to prevent other underaged girls from working for them.

Okay, cool - what is your point in making this argument, exactly? That the hundreds of thousands of people who've gone to Artemis are all possible child rapists? If you aren't saying that, then how does this reflect on Hasan at all (beyond the grossness of attending a brothel)?

The utterly deranged reactions to this video just prove more and more with every passing second that Kilo's decision to center it around the HASAN BAD fandom was a stroke of genius.

 

[MrMM]

You go look it up. I found that the case happened like half a decade after the cockroach visited so it was a simple conclusion. His alogs were lying by deliberately conflating the two.
If an adult visits a legal brothel, they expect legal women.
The case itself got dropped and the brothel even got awarded. This means there wasn't a case in a court of law. You're free to form your opinion, the law doesn't care and neither do I.

You're asking me to prove in the long history of that brothel, they didn't employ at least one person under the age of 17 years, 355 days, 23 hours and 59 seconds?
Why don't you ask grok or something, they'll entertain ridiculously retarded questions like this.

So my understanding is Kilo flubs in the video because he sources this from Saltman/Nux/Destiny and his own thoughts. He doesn't provide any primary sources and just characterizes "here's what happened". He absolutely screws up saying "that lone isolated incident happened six years after Hasan visited Germany" -- referring to the incident happening in 2010. In 2004 Hasan would have been 14/15, and would not have been able to patronize the Artemis, so Kilo gets that wrong. So I don't know when Hasan went to the Artemis because Kilo doesn't source anything other than, effectively, "trust me bro" (and then later clearly gets a fact wrong and doesn't deserve my trust).

While I think visiting a brothel is disqualifying in general, I will admit, genuinely, there's a material difference between visiting the Artemis after the German police investigated and dropped charges/lost in court and visiting it before. If the police went in full-charge and said "we got nothing" I think that's more ethical than visiting it before.

It is very possible that the high-profile Frankfurt footballer scandal going public caused the Artemis to clean up its processes. And prior to that it was a "don't ask don't tell" *wink* *wink* kind of thing that people suspected underaged girls were there -- similar to, as i understand it only from online statements, happens in southeast Asia today. I think tremendous overemphasis of "lone isolated incident" referring to the 17 year old by Kilo is cringe and gross, and brushes aside that it was probably more than that and the Artemis lacked guardrails.

If Hasan visited after the police raid, I think this is dumb, but more of a "its disqualifying to go to brothels in general" position (which, to be clear, is my position, i dont think he slept with an underaged girl). If he visited before, at a time when clearly the Artemis didn't catch underaged girl working for it before a high-profile scandal, I think that is worse (even if he slept with an adult woman).

(Unless of course Erman Muratagic's underaged girlfriend never worked at the Artemis, but that doesn't seem to be anyone's argument)

ETA: for completeness I was wrong about the above. But I still believe Kilo is being misleading stating that the "lone isolated incident" which refers to the 17 year old working at the Artemis did not happen six years after Hasan visited. More likely in or before 2013

 

[Sprate Header]

He absolutely screws up saying "that lone isolated incident happened six years after Hasan visited Germany" -- referring to the incident happening in 2010. In 2004 Hasan would have been 14/15, and would not have been able to patronize the Artemis, so Kilo gets that wrong. So I don't know when Hasan went to the Artemis because Kilo doesn't source anything other than "trust me bro" (and then later clearly gets a fact wrong and doesn't deserve my trust).

You are so fucking stupid.

2010 is when Hasan attended Artemis. 2016 is when the raid happened.




It is all right there!

 

[AltisticRight]

referring to the incident happening in 2010

In 2004 Hasan would have been 14/15

??????????????
He visited in 2010 or something, the raid was in 2016.
What are you even talking about?

 

[MrMM]

You are so fucking stupid.

2010 is when Hasan attended Artemis. 2016 is when the raid happened.Ver archivo adjunto 8981321

Apologies, you are right that 2010 is when Hasan went to the brothel, but "six years before" Kilo states is incorrect.

The "lone isolated incident" Kilo is referring to is when Erman Muratagic's underaged girlfriend worked at the Artemis. Which I thought happened in 2010, but it is unclear to me based on reporting. It certainly happened before 2015:

The woman, who was from a Turkish family, had managed to break away from the scene in February 2015. In January 2015, she filed a complaint and triggered intensive investigations with her statement. The convict had most recently worked as a bouncer and occasionally also sold drugs.

And my understanding is she was with him while he was on the team prior to his retirement in 2013, supported by his statement complaining about her.

In July 2013, the Montenegro-born Erman Muratagic had finished his goalkeeping career at Eintracht Frankfurt and had moved to Berlin. According to the indictment, he complained that his girlfriend could not be as “machine” as the other women who would work for his “boys.”

 

[AnOminous]

Something I like about this site that you don't see on most of the net is that when someone gets called out for incorrect facts, they generally just immediately man up and admit to it instead of making fools of themselves insisting on dumb shit.

I don't always end up agreeing with someone I get in an argument with here but almost always, they're actually arguing in good faith and not just deliberately wasting my time.

 

[Doctor PooPoo Head]

Kilotonics, a small commentary creator part of the ex-DGG diaspora, has released a long-awaited, nearly four-hour fully edited video arguing the anti-H3 side of the Ethan/Hasan conflict:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=EYk9MGx7it8

But Hasan is bad you fucking efterbliven.

 

[WelperHelper99]

My flaming hot take after seeing like 30 minutes of the video (too reddit to get through, sorry Sprate), and knowing shit already, is I hate Hasan, and it's funny to see Ethan rape him. That said, his court shenanigans, while against literal subhuman redditors that sent skulls to his house and called CPS on his family, do have a chance to eventually backfire onto sites like ours in unforseen ways. Not 100%, but it could.

 

[MrMM]

That said, his court shenanigans, while against literal subhuman redditors that sent skulls to his house and called CPS on his family, do have a chance to eventually backfire onto sites like ours in unforseen ways. Not 100%, but it could.

My soft take is that Ethan's copyright cases are so clear-cut that nothing novel is actually being litigated and there is no true change to the status quo.

This, in my opinion, is fundamentally different from he-who-I-am-actually-afraid-to-name abusing DMCA with Null (Ethan didn't go the DMCA route) to get identifying information of routine users of KF. Ethan is jew-ing out against three high-profile streamers and reddit mods who clearly infringed his IP for monetary gain (and/or to deprive him of monetary revenue) and I just have to shrug. People should know better, and when I go about infringing copyright I do everything in my power to hide my identity rather than broadcast with my face and/or use my pseudo-employee status at a $30 billion company to do so.

Voldemort is trying to find novel ways to doxx regular users using genuinely contrived copyright registry efforts (a face portrait? come on) to DMCA routine KF users who do nothing but mock him on this platform. That is far scarier to me than Ethan jewing out over his political enemies (that, to be clear, he burned all prior bridges and prostrated himself online to engratiate himself with prior to October 7 and deserves all online hate he gets -- but the CPS and skulls shit went too far).

 

[Twrx]

Regardless of the brothel thing, Hasan has admitted to attending at least one Diddy party. That alone says so much about his character. Not even including the multiple cases of recorded pet abuse, God only knows what we haven't seen. His platforming of and praising terrorists. I could go on . Any one of those things scream "I'm a horrible person who should be in a prison cell". Get the fuck out if you're going to sweep for and praise that faggot. Two things can be true, both Ethan and the Turk roach are shitty people, the roach just happens to be much worse.

 

[WelperHelper99]

My soft take is that Ethan's copyright cases are so clear-cut that nothing novel is actually being litigated and there is no true change to the status quo.

This, in my opinion, is fundamentally different from he-who-I-am-actually-afraid-to-name abusing DMCA with Null (Ethan didn't go the DMCA route) to get identifying information of routine users of KF. Ethan is jew-ing out against three high-profile streamers and reddit mods who clearly infringed his IP for monetary gain (and/or to deprive him of monetary revenue) and I just have to shrug. People should know better, and when I go about infringing copyright I do everything in my power to hide my identity rather than broadcast with my face and/or use my pseudo-employee status at a $30 billion company to do so.

Voldemort is trying to find novel ways to doxx regular users using genuinely contrived copyright registry efforts (a face portrait? come on) to DMCA routine KF users who do nothing but mock him on this platform. That is far scarier to me than Ethan jewing out over his political enemies (that, to be clear, he burned all prior bridges and prostrated himself online to engratiate himself with prior to October 7 and deserves all online hate he gets -- but the CPS and skulls shit went too far).

It is different sure. I don't particularly feel sorry for any of them. It's still using copyright as a weapon. And any success can make it stronger.

 

[MrMM]

It is different sure. I don't particularly feel sorry for any of them. It's still using copyright as a weapon. And any success can make it stronger.

One of my former professors wrote this disgusting garbage about how copyright doctrine is pro-free speech and fair use harms free speech.

Ethan just isn't that important. The legal profession moves regardless of online spergs fighting over how Jewish and Palestinian they are. The online millennial streaming community just isn't that important. People like harvard professors move the needle in terms of precedential federal court rulings. Not some online streamers that get 20-30k live viewers.

 

[Surfin Terf]

It is different sure. I don't particularly feel sorry for any of them. It's still using copyright as a weapon. And any success can make it stronger.

while h3 is definitely weaponizing it against these three, I also think that he would have a legitimate case (which is totally different than the Matt Hoss situation) against them, so disallowing his lawsuit because he has personal grudges would effectively mean you can steal from someone who hates you because you could argue that any civil suit would be motivated by a grudge.

 

[Sicko Hunter]

Why do they do this? It's so ineffective.

The same reason Scientology pays money to host websites slandering people who criticize the church despite it being comically obvious it's them behind the sites. It's a cult. Hasan fans are in the worlds gayest cult. No drugs, no orgies, no everlasting life in Xenuland just worship a communist pedophile for nothing.

 

[Epic Fail Man]

No, it's that Ethan Klein has been dishonest and hypocritical in a wide variety of ways within his feud with Hasan, and his dishonesty and hypocrisy has had the effect of creating a content-farming industry around Hasan that all of those people have benefitted from.

If you think that believing this makes someone a secret Hasan fan, you are very dumb.

You don't understand. "we" must pick a team. Nuance? Imagine not practicing cognitive dissonance and reverting to an angry 12 year old online. There is a good guy team (Ethan) and a bad guy team (Hasan) don't fucking complicate things. I want to make easy posts for easy stickies.

And no I didn't watch the video either. What do you expect? me, a forum user to actually watch and absorb information. LOL.

 

[nicotiana tabacum]

Sprate is a brand-name kiwifarmer™. MrMM is a confused new user powerleveling about his Harvard professor who thinks this is the right thread to kvetch about Karl Marx 2, sorry, I mean the Great Helmsman Hasan, and the prostitutes he needed to abuse to build communism.
I know who I'm siding with.

 

[Tepes Thot]

As far as the brothel, I just think anyone who believes they can ‘buy’ another person is a sicko. I also don’t think the “sex work” industry would care to have guardrails against abuse (because people are the product) and Hasan wouldn’t care to check into the place he was going.

Pair that with his Diddy partying, pickup artist past, and general sociopathy, and it’s still an indictment on him imo.
Do you honestly believe if he knew that place had an underage girl at the time he visited that he wouldn’t still have gone as long as he believed no one would know?

 

[Brap God]

It's still using copyright as a weapon. And any success can make it stronger.

Does the snark subreddit lawsuit you mentioned previously have anything to do with copyright? I thought only the lawsuits against streamers who restreamed h3h3 involved copyright. And while it is ironic that Ethan is suing for what once almost ruined his life and youtube career, the fact all those retards openly gloated about doing what they did with malice makes the lawsuits both deserved and any consequence as a result of those suits are entirely their fault.