AI Derangement Syndrome / Anti-AI artists / Pro-AI technocultists / AI "debate" communities - The Natural Retardation in the Artificial Intelligence communities

Hypothetical AI-generated content that would use a "no gen AI was used" label for clicks would have more to lose than gain since anti-AI people are so autistic about sniffing out AI and telling all their buddies to boycott it. Just by that self-selection process, I would trust a "no gen AI was used" label, even if it is just vapid virtue signaling.
 
This image has always been my favorite counter to the "soul" argument.

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I hate Indian AI slop factories as much as the next guy, but acting like human made art is elevated in some way due to being made by a person is retarded.
Online artists weren't afraid. I don't have logs saved from that time, but the general atmosphere was "okay whatever, this is funny I guess but it'll be a long time before this can create actual good-looking photos and art".
Thank you for bringing this up, I felt like I was missing something in my Chronology of AIDS in the Online Artist Community but couldn't remember what. It was this Sonic picture that cracked the "AI can only make blurry smudgy crap in generic styles guys, artists are safe" cope. They started to get really freaked out that AI could copy pencil strokes and specific styles. And it happened just 4 months after the smudgy DALL-E generations made them feel safe.
This single-minded focus on "typing" as original sin is hilarious.
The AIDS perspective is generally grounded in how abstracted the shortcut is from "the real work" with a heaping of labor theory of value, but it's obvious they're drawing the line of "acceptable sovlful abstraction" and "unacceptable lazy abstraction" arbitrarily. If you ask a LLM to create a 480x360 horizontal red-to-white SVG gradient, it will probabilistically determine to write and run this command:
python3 << 'EOF'
with open('gradient.svg', 'w') as f:
f.write('''<svg width="480" height="360" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg">
<defs>
<linearGradient id="grad" x1="0%" y1="0%" x2="100%" y2="0%">
<stop offset="0%" style="stop-color:red;stop-opacity:1" />
<stop offset="100%" style="stop-color:white;stop-opacity:1" />
</linearGradient>
</defs>
<rect width="480" height="360" fill="url(#grad)"/>
</svg>''')
EOF
They're claiming that if this was probabilistically written by a computer program, the output is sovlless slop, but if it was manually written by hand, or even copy-pasted from a tutorial website for that matter, it's not. The notion of "artistic sovl" is woo that belongs on Etsy pages run by fat women charging money for witch curses, if you couldn't already tell.
That comic has always been bullshit though, because it implies the issue is direct instruction (aka programming) of the models, rather than their emergent behavior.
There's a psychological argument to be made with the way LLMs responding in natural language can trick people of all intelligence levels to respond more emotionally. You can see people admitting to raging at their AI assistants and companies tracking that information (Archive). I've never raged at the robot before, but I'll admit that I sneed harder when I read a natural language "Erm chuddie this isn't aligned with muh heckin' moral guidelines! Do better!" than a standard "Error Code X: Response Blocked". Most of the blame lies on stupidity and profit motives. Ideally, a LLM should respond impersonally like the passive tool it is, but connecting with stupid people emotionally brings in too much shekels for companies to care.
Also it’s honestly kinda funny how so many people so easily takes and believes things at face value, and the “no AI used” disclaimer is one pretty good example of that.
Online artists are extremely gullible and fall for scams constantly (Palestine donation scams, "reported to the admins" scams). Their homeland Tumblr had to publish banners on top of the site and add a list of common scams to their help page so they would stop bombarding the helpdesk with pleads to recover their accounts. They're afraid of "AI misinformation" because they don't have the innate ability to identify misinformation.
It's for both kinds of derangement, actually, the anti AI one just tends to be funnier. Maybe because the bulk of pro AI derangement reads like it was written by an AI and overlaps with the marketing material.
If the AIDS guys had some sense in them, they'd be banking on this - human rage is far more interesting to observe and discuss than robot shilling!
 
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It's for both kinds of derangement, actually, the anti AI one just tends to be funnier.
Absolutely, my favorite one was was the recent Wendigoon Angel Engine review. Wendi went on a huge unhinged anti AI rant over an analog horror series that uses AI basically telling the creator he should sell merch to pay for a studio of artists to do the work instead. His rant even extended to Twitter where he was fighting with Matt Jarbo of all people. The best part was after all that, he immediately starts shilling the ready or not DLC, which the studio behind ready or not uses AI assets all the time, but he doesn't make a peep about that. Then it was confirmed that the guy who does the creepcast thumbnails uses AI to make them, again not a peep and they continue to use AI thumbnails even after all that. So for all their bluster a lot of AI people tend to look the other way when they either like the product or can benefit from AI use.
 
Hypothetical AI-generated content that would use a "no gen AI was used" label for clicks would have more to lose than gain since anti-AI people are so autistic about sniffing out AI and telling all their buddies to boycott it. Just by that self-selection process, I would trust a "no gen AI was used" label, even if it is just vapid virtue signaling.
They aren't that good at it. They falsely accused crime scene cleaner of using AI gen when they don't, but anti ai guys like wendigoon will shill products that use AI and even use AI for his thumbnails and the anti ai people that were gassing him up don't complain about it either. If you put out a generic low fi mix and say it's not AI, I doubt any of them can tell if it actually is.
 
I hope she stays smarter than redditor parent.
Between a technologically retarded parent giving their child unrestricted access to AI and the same parent blocking it entirely, the second option is better for the child. A 9 year old's grasp on reality and logic isn't great. Their mind will frame AI responses as "real communication" and they'll fall into the habit of believing everything it says, because "machine that can tell lies while sounding like a real person" is too advanced for them. The only factual lie from the Redditor was the muh environment, but you could imagine it as one of those child-friendly lies like Santa Claus that an older child would figure out.

The thing that will really hold the child back is how her mother is a liberal who is convinced her daughter is a sperg. Redditors love to overdiagnose their super special children so they can use the sperg card to avoid any hardship or behavioral correction. Expect a future poonout and/or failure to launch from the poor child.
 
It doesn't seem like she's smarter at all
Being smarter than a redditor is not a high bar

Between a technologically retarded parent giving their child unrestricted access to AI and the same parent blocking it entirely, the second option is better for the child. A 9 year old's grasp on reality and logic isn't great. Their mind will frame AI responses as "real communication" and they'll fall into the habit of believing everything it says, because "machine that can tell lies while sounding like a real person" is too advanced for them. The only factual lie from the Redditor was the muh environment, but you could imagine it as one of those child-friendly lies like Santa Claus that an older child would figure out.

The thing that will really hold the child back is how her mother is a liberal who is convinced her daughter is a sperg. Redditors love to overdiagnose their super special children so they can use the sperg card to avoid any hardship or behavioral correction. Expect a future poonout and/or failure to launch from the poor child.
She seems to be asking it benign questions, not turning into an r/MyBoyfriendIsAI user.

I don't think it's a big deal as long as it stays that way.
 
They aren't that good at it. They falsely accused crime scene cleaner of using AI gen when they don't, but anti ai guys like wendigoon will shill products that use AI and even use AI for his thumbnails and the anti ai people that were gassing him up don't complain about it either. If you put out a generic low fi mix and say it's not AI, I doubt any of them can tell if it actually is.
The anti-AI jihad has accused literally tons of people of AI even when those people truly didn’t use it. They think anything that’s even slightly good or impressive must be AI, which is kinda ironic considering they think everything AI is “slop”. Like…pick one? Lol.
 
Between a technologically retarded parent giving their child unrestricted access to AI and the same parent blocking it entirely, the second option is better for the child. A 9 year old's grasp on reality and logic isn't great. Their mind will frame AI responses as "real communication" and they'll fall into the habit of believing everything it says, because "machine that can tell lies while sounding like a real person" is too advanced for them. The only factual lie from the Redditor was the muh environment, but you could imagine it as one of those child-friendly lies like Santa Claus that an older child would figure out.

The thing that will really hold the child back is how her mother is a liberal who is convinced her daughter is a sperg. Redditors love to overdiagnose their super special children so they can use the sperg card to avoid any hardship or behavioral correction. Expect a future poonout and/or failure to launch from the poor child.
The alternative of course is believing everything your unhinged Reddit mother says, which I will absolutely argue is infinitely more destructive than asking a computer questions and advice. One has access to unlimited information and may accidentally make things up sometimes, the other purposely lies constantly and filters all information through unhinged TDS Troon glasses.

Also "explaining to my personally diagnosed retarded child how sycophantic and harmful AI is" while....using Reddit to confirm all your choices and thoughts are correct is just 10/10
 
They think anything that’s even slightly good or impressive must be AI
Or even bad. Your proportions are weird? AI! Bad at drawing hands? AI! Intentionally going for a generic style? AI!
What the fuck did she tell her kid that made her "devastated". Like my parents told me not to run the AC with the windows open or leave the lights on because it wastes power, I just went "ok" and followed their instructions. I wonder if the redditor made her think she was personally killing dolphins or something everytime she asked a question on how to get along with their siblings.
 
To be able to be socialized into a Redditor you must already be of low intelligence
I mean there have been statistics to show this isn't true. Redditors on average are slightly more qualified than average. Whatever you want to call it but higher education until early 20s. But all that means is they have 0 real world experience and because they are technically more intelligent than the average person they are at the absolute peak of the dunning kruger effect.
What the fuck did she tell her kid that made her "devastated".
The kid is 9. You could tell them that pancakes are made from dead giraffes and they would cry for a week.
 
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