Iran Crisis ∩ Trump Politics Mass Debates Thread

[Necrosan]

I'm not sure which is the worse interpretation of that story, Muhammad being raped by demonic djinn or raped by a bunch of indians.

You know which one is worse.

 

[Contra Pozz]

They amos hate rules in general, like traffic rules, tax rules, and so on.

traffic rules, tax rules, the commandments of their God, the list goes on

 

[Kwisatz00]

Song for the war maybe:

A Flock Of Seagulls - I Ran​

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIpfWORQWhU

 

[The Great Ducktator]

The fact that you support your government doing this is wild, but I guess you don't view Iranians as ensouled human beings so it's all good to you.

Were you ever in the IDF? Did you ever kill random elderly Arabs for fun? Or put a bullet in a kid's head and laugh about it?

Once I realized how you guys thought it became easy to square the whole mass murder thing with the "world's most moral army" claim.

Check out the gloating when Iranians 'only' hit muslim Israeli.

Are they not Israeli citizen? Do they not directly or indirectly support Israels military with their labor? No, all of that doesn't matter as long as one can joke about the poor aim of the Iranians. Ghoulish and I can't think of another country that is so openly callous towards one part of its people.

 

[Duane Dibbley]

Joe Kent had an interview with Tucker Carlson and brought up that there was a Fatwa issued by Iran in 2003 against nuclear weapons and WMDs.

Wiki

In October 2003, Khamenei issued an oral fatwa that forbade the production and using any form of weapon of mass destruction. Two years later, in August 2005, the fatwa was cited in an official statement by the Iranian government at a meeting of the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) in Vienna.

Khamenei reportedly issued a fatwa saying the production, stockpiling, and use of nuclear weapons was forbidden under Islam.[136] The fatwa was cited in an official statement by the Iranian government at an August 2005 meeting of the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) in Vienna.[137] It has been widely discussed by international officials and specifically recognized by the US administration.[138]

The Iranian official website for information regarding its nuclear program has provided numerous instances of public statements by Khamenei wherein he voices his opposition to the pursuit and development of nuclear weapons in moral, religious and Islamic juridical terms.[139] Khamenei's official website specifically cites a 2010 version[32] of these statements in the fatwa section of the website in Farsi as a fatwa on "Prohibition of Weapons of Mass Destruction".[140]

For 20+ years, a US recognised, internationally agreed upon fatwa against nuclear weapons and WMDs in general was issued.
And the reason the yanks bombed iran on behalf of jews was to stop nuclear weapons, the building of which was haram in the eyes of the Iranians?

If the defence of this information is "but they lied" then i'll rent my sides to NASA so they can send astronauts to the moon.

 

[Pippa is a spic whore]

2 things can be true at once:
>@CatchTheRainbow and other kikes from the main thread should be gassed, and deserve everything paliniggers did to them on oct7.
>Iran should be nuked. "muh paarsians" are the jeets of the middle east. They are still the brownoids that marched for khomeini, its just that they got tired of the islamic aesthetic.

 

[Retrodogkiller]

Are they not Israeli citizen?

They are but they're basically a propaganda token to say, "see, we're not an ethnostate we let a few Muslims live in the worst ghettos and basically work as slaves for us". Don't even get me started on the fact that the Ashkenazi jews started wars and terror attacks back in the 40s to get the Semitic and coptic jews out of middle eastern countries and in to Israel just to have a slave labor force.

 

[Catch The Rainbow]

Kikes are the reason why the browns get violent.

browns have no agency somehow. the Barbary Wars? jews.

Iran has already got even harder lined leaders after the Orange Pedo nigger keeps killing the "moderates" and the people you faggots want in charge.

and they keep dying. the "moderates" in this case were also actively funding the IRGC to the detriment of the whole country and were subject to whatever the ayatollah wanted. reformists practically had no power vs him and he favored the irgc

You keep pushing the same bullshit argument for the past 40 years. Are the iran nukes in the room right now, faggot?

retard hasn't been able to read the multiple times i cited israeli sabotage giving specific examples

The IAEA literally concluded that Iran literally followed the nuclear deal to a T and it's the US that literally kept sanctioning them because Israel screeched that they'll somehow "buy" nuclear weapons.

IAEA were never allowed to inspect military sites and of the sites they did inspect, they found contamination

https://www.armscontrol.org/factsheets/iaea-investigations-irans-nuclear-activities

The IAEA’s second investigation into Iran's past nuclear activities began in 2018 and is focused on evidence suggesting that Iran failed to declare all nuclear materials and activities from its pre-2003 nuclear program as legally required by its safeguards agreement. The investigation does not re-open the military dimensions file: it is focused on Iran's nuclear material accountancy obligations under its safeguards agreements.

As part of this investigation, the IAEA visited three undeclared locations in 2019 and 2020. Environmental samples taken from all three sites indicated that processed uranium had been present at all three locations. Iran has yet to provide the IAEA with technically credible explanations for the presence of uranium at two of those sites, Turquzabad and Varamin. In a May 2023 report, the IAEA said it had no further questions regarding the third site where uranium was detected, Marivan. The IAEA assessed that Iran conducted “explosive experiments with protective shielding in preparation for the use of neutron detectors.” Iran claimed that a third-party state operating a mine and chemical lab at the site contaminated the area with uranium. The IAEA said this was a "possible" explanation.

The IAEA investigated a fourth location, Lavisan-Shian, but said in a May 2022 report that had no more questions regarding past activities at that site. In the May 2022 report, the IAEA assessed that Tehran should have declared the activities related to uranium metal that took place at the site under its legally-required safeguards agreement.

read a little bit instead of parroting information from browns

If that's the case, why is Israel killing the leaders that are friendly to the US and the west? Answer: they are not interested in regime change. They want Iran to be a failed state like Lybia and Syria.

which leaders are those?

At every point in this conflict, Iran is literally entrenching themselves and decentralizing their power to the point where it's literally impossible to get Iran to surrender. You made the opposition leaders in iran look stupid because your orange pedophile thought it would be a great idea to kill civilians and not expect Iranian people to get angry about that and start targeting the oil.

said like someone who hasn't spoken to any actual iranians about their opinions

It doesn't seem like you faggots are winning.

killing the leadership and destroying most of their resources is losing

its pathetic how you fall for the most transparent of brown lies that can be easily disproved

Jesus, at this point I’m starting to think our resident kike likes the humiliation.

nothing i can do is more humilating than someone who pretends to care about his dead friends while supporting the people who armed the Taliban that killed his friends. you use their dead bodies to prop up the regime that helped kill them. once you combine this with your stance that approves of women raping male minors because the boys will enjoy it, it's clear that you're a fundamentally sick "human" who should hang himself. I would normally recommend shooting yourself in the head but in your case there's nothing there.

The fact that you support your government doing this is wild, but I guess you don't view Iranians as ensouled human beings so it's all good to you.

"you can't kill people who are hired by the Iranian military to work on a nuclear weapon against you because ????"

actual retard, the nuclear program was under the IRGC umbrella.

Joe Kent had an interview with Tucker Carlson and brought up that there was a Fatwa issued by Iran in 2003 against nuclear weapons and WMDs.

Wiki




For 20+ years, a US recognised, internationally agreed upon fatwa against nuclear weapons and WMDs in general was issued.
And the reason the yanks bombed iran on behalf of jews was to stop nuclear weapons, the building of which was haram in the eyes of the Iranians?

If the defence of this information is "but they lied" then i'll rent my sides to NASA so they can send astronauts to the moon.

retard didn't bother googling this either

https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/iransource/iran-nuclear-weapons-fatwa-khamenei/

What eventually became a staple talking point of Iranian diplomats was sold to world powers as the supreme leader’s “fatwa” prohibiting nuclear arms. In reality, it was the last paragraph of his message to the first iteration of the International Conference on Nuclear Disarmament and Non-Proliferation, which Tehran hosted in 2010.

The segment of the message marketed by the Iranian diplomatic missions as a “fatwa” reads, “We believe that adding to nuclear weapons and other types of weapons of mass destruction, such as chemical weapons and biological weapons, are a serious threat to humanity. The Iranian nation, which itself is a victim of the use of chemical weapons, feels more than other nations the danger of the production and accumulation of such weapons and is ready to put all its resources in the way of dealing with it. We consider the use of these weapons to be haram (forbidden), and the effort to protect mankind from this great disaster is everyone’s duty.”

The supreme leader’s official website includes several pages dedicated to explaining his stance on nuclear arms, with one listing all comments he has made about them. Among the eighty-five quotes, the word “haram” is used only three times and exclusively about the “use of nuclear weapons,” not their production or stockpiling. He has also twice called the “use” of weapons of mass destruction a “great sin.”

On the same page, the only quote that includes the term “fatwa” comes from a 2015 speech and reads, “We don’t want a nuclear weapon. Not because of what they say, but because of ourselves, because of our religion, because of our rational reasons. This is both our religious fatwa and our rational fatwa. Our rational fatwa is that we don’t need nuclear weapons today, tomorrow, or ever. Nuclear weapons are a source of trouble for a country like ours.”

Furthermore, a point of pride for Shia Muslims is that fatwas are not inherently permanent, and Islamic jurists can—and often do—reinterpret the scripture “in accord with the needs of time.” Throughout the history of political Islam, Shia ayatollahs have used fatwas as a political tool against adversaries. For example, in the 1890s, Ayatollah Mirza Shirazi issued a fatwa during nationwide protests after the ruling Qajar Dynasty granted a British merchant a monopoly on the growth, sale, and export of tobacco in Iran. This forced the king to revoke the monopoly; after it served its political purpose, the fatwa was also removed.

shia also believe in taqqiya, this is a classic example

deputy speaker of the Iranian parliament admitted they were trying to build a bomb

0:47

Check out the gloating when Iranians 'only' hit muslim Israeli.

Are they not Israeli citizen? Do they not directly or indirectly support Israels military with their labor? No, all of that doesn't matter as long as one can joke about the poor aim of the Iranians. Ghoulish and I can't think of another country that is so openly callous towards one part of its people.

you don't see the irony of iran vowing to protect muslims/palestinians and then aiming for places where they live?

They are but they're basically a propaganda token to say, "see, we're not an ethnostate we let a few Muslims live in the worst ghettos and basically work as slaves for us". Don't even get me started on the fact that the Ashkenazi jews started wars and terror attacks back in the 40s to get the Semitic and coptic jews out of middle eastern countries and in to Israel just to have a slave labor force.

are you retarded, a third of the Israeli medical industry is Arab

 

[Delany's Donkey]

2 things can be true at once:
>@CatchTheRainbow and other kikes from the main thread should be gassed, and deserve everything paliniggers did to them on oct7.
>Iran should be nuked. "muh paarsians" are the jeets of the middle east. They are still the brownoids that marched for khomeini, its just that they got tired of the islamic aesthetic.

nobody is simping for Iran the question is can you actually get rid of them or their capabilities without it turning into a shitshow and increasingly that answer is no obviously. There are dozens of evil regimes that pose a threat to us and want to hurt us (like north korea) but everyone understands that starting a war with them isn't worth it and would become a quagmire. The problem in the middle east is our "client state" doesn't care about our goals or people and drags us into shit regardless if it's in our benefit or not and we let them.

the only actual strike i do not like on a moral level and i find disgusting is the school we double tapped to kill 100+ little girls. Muslims are generally subhuman, but little girls are still little girls and should not be targeted by a moral people. That's actual brownoid turd world shit and if we're going to justify it how can anyone criticize Islam for the horrors they commit?

 

[Leylon Sneed]

they found contamination

I wonder what the iaea would find if Israel even allowed them to inspect their reactors, particular Dimona.

 

[No-Eyed Square Guy]

The problem in the middle east is our "client state" doesn't care about our goals or people and drags us into shit regardless if it's in our benefit or not and we let them.

Israel's war is against you. And they're winning it.

 

[Catch The Rainbow]

I wonder what the iaea would find if Israel even allowed them to inspect their reactors, particular Dimona.

israel wasn't stupid enough to sign the NPT so this is whataboutism

 

[Nick Wilde]

Does anyone really think that someone can tell President Trump what to do? Come on

fucking kek

I mean. Honestly, you have to respect this guy's audacity.

 

[Leylon Sneed]

israel wasn't stupid enough to sign the NPT so this is whataboutism

The Shah signed that. I already made my point, Israel screaming about this bullshit is the pot calling the kettle a Nigger.

 

[Taser Confetti]

it's clear that you're a fundamentally sick "human" who should hang himself. I would normally recommend shooting yourself in the head but in your case there's nothing there.

It’s funny, when you rage pig out even the more moderate fence sitting posters realize what an unhinged lunatic you are. Keep going rage piggy.

 

[Catch The Rainbow]

The Shah signed that. I already made my point, Israel screaming about this bullshit is the pot calling the kettle a Nigger.

The regime accepted the NPT upon itself and never attempted to withdraw, this is cope

It’s funny, when you rage pig out even the more moderate fence sitting posters realize what an unhinged lunatic you are. Keep going rage piggy.

i dont think it's unhinged for someone to want a traitor who uses his dead "friends" as a shield and who says minor male victims of female rape aren't victims to commit suicide.

 

[Duane Dibbley]

I've got the propagandist shill on ignore, I won't poison my mind with his talmudic trickery. I hope he's seething and coping over facts while calling us dumb liars.

 

[Taser Confetti]

i dont think it's unhinged for someone to want a traitor who uses his dead "friends" as a shield and who says minor male victims of female rape aren't victims to commit suicide.

Literally nobody believes the shit you say. I’m surprised your handler hasn’t told you to calm down and pick a new angle.

You’re as bad of a debater as you are a husband.

 

[Leylon Sneed]

coping over facts while calling us dumb liars.

Well he's calling us dumb, and lying.. close enough?

 

[Catch The Rainbow]

Literally nobody believes the shit you say.

brown mindset where if you deny the evidence of you being a pedophile supporter despite me linking to it it's not real




"no stalker child I didn't apologize for a woman raping male children because they're all "gooners", don't believe your lying eyes"

Well he's calling us dumb, and lying.. close enough?

point out a single lie