Iran Crisis & the 2026 War between Iran and the United States, Gulf States, and Israel - Please focus on news and coverage, not argumentation.

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JeanRob1 dijo:
That's interesting, thanks. I'm guessing they want to divide and conquer instead of making new allies. That's not what I hope for though, I hope Iran will stay united with a return of the Shah.
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Israel would prefer to be surrounded by non functional Haiti tier societies-that means Jewish security, settlement expansion, and Jewish hegemony.

Anyone telling you Israel wants peace with its neighbors or its region is lying to you. Whether they are out of Tel Aviv or are duped by someone who is.
 
Fanatical Pragmatist dijo:
It's not inconsequential, because it implies that Russia is willing to be wiped off the map than lose a potential conventional war against the US.
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Which they are not. And the really deep lore is that both Russia and the USA really don't have much they actually want to fight a war over anyway. The only major complication to US/Russia relations is the American guarantee of the European Unions eastern flank. But the EU has made it abundantly clear the American involvement on the continent is not wanted or appreciated, so really that final vestigial complication to US/Russian relations is really close to being severed.

Which incidentally is why nobody in Eastern Europe, from the Finns to even the Ukrainians are following Macron, Queer Starmer and Merz into the glorious post-American EU future. They know the French, Brits and Germans are full of absolute bullshit.

Its also why for all Russia's talk, when push comes to shove they aren't going to do shit to antagonize the Americans when America throws down in any region of the world that is not immediately right next door to Russia.
 
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In the flushes of victory id like to share 3 battles from ww2 history just for some context.

The Battle of Białystok–Minsk - 400,000 KIA/MIA 77k WIA
The Battle of Smolensk - 700,000 KIA/MIA or captured with a further 275,000 WIA
The Battle of Kiev (1941) - 700,000 kIA/MIA or captured 84k WIA

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Im not saying Iran is at all an analogous comparison to the soviet union but it shows what a people can do when faced with overwhelming odds.

Iran has 90 million people, thats about 60% of what the soviets had and they are far more concentrated.

Not trying to use this to needlessly doom but to just illustrate how powerful the human spirit to not be conquered can be .

Lmao and we though Afghanistans pullout was bad
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Ishtar dijo:
Israel would prefer to be surrounded by non functional Haiti tier societies-that means Jewish security, settlement expansion, and Jewish hegemony.

Anyone telling you Israel wants peace with its neighbors or its region is lying to you. Whether they are out of Tel Aviv or are duped by someone who is.
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Israel would prefer to not be surrounded by countries who build and design their armies for the express purpose of invading them. How functional their societies are beyond that is immaterial. The problem Israel has had is that the moment any neighboring country becomes functional it immediately builds and deploys an army to invade them.

Incidentally though, Jordan has been functional for some time, and they have not built their army for the expressed purpose of invading Israel. Since then, things have been very peaceful along that border and Jordan has even gotten access to the Israeli watershed.
 
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The Freak Who Lived dijo:
Europe hates Ukraine and only provides token support out of virtue signaling and fear. America cares but with very low intensity.
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Europe is confused because wars of conquest shouldn't be happening in this day and age, and certainly not in their backyard. They're so spoiled by peace and security at America's expense, they don't know what to do. Yes, they're inconvenienced by Ukraine's resistance, and they find themselves having to at least pay lip service to their supposed shared principles and international laws by helping out and nominally opposing Putin.
They can't solve the problem, so they opted out for tried-and-true method of "kicking the can down the road" until the problem somehow solves itself or becomes someone else's. Putin is free to threaten them with nuclear weapons, and at the same time they get a perfect excuse for not doing more.
There's presently no solution to nuclear blackmail.

How that relates to Iran, though? I don't think anyone wants another retard with expansionist ambitions doing the same in the Middle East. Or anywhere else, really. Thus Ayatollah is casserola'd and Iranian nukes remain hypothetical.
 
StudMccool dijo:
I feel like we conveintly forget that part when rice farmers shot down the invincible Buff 13 times with soviet era mark 1 eyeball guided missles


the b52s shot down over Hanoi never got rebuilt, the Surinamese keep the wreckage around as decoration
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who the fuck said the B-52 was invincible, it's a no-stealth heavy bomber with a max speed of 650mph and next to no maneuverability. at least that's what we tell people like you who never went into the tomb of gilgamesh
 
StudMccool dijo:
I feel like we conveintly forget that part when rice farmers shot down the invincible Buff 13 times with soviet era mark 1 eyeball guided missles


the b52s shot down over Hanoi never got rebuilt, the Vietnamese keep the wreckage around as decoration
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They weren’t rebuilt because the b-1 mark 1 was supposed to replace them until Carter canceled the program. They also flew predictable patterns because no one until Nixon trusted the on the ground leadership.
 
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