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What Would A World That Doesn’t Center Men Look Like?

IT’S HARD TO describe the feeling of watching something simultaneously captivating and haunting — like some types of natural disaster you can’t look away from. Yet this is how I’ve felt when talking about Netflix’s “Adolescence,” a series that came out last year, to friends, family, or really anyone who will listen. Witnessing the chilling effects of online manosphere communities, the repackaging of misogyny from generation to generation, and the process of how toxic masculinity gets normalized by peers all struck a chord with both the sex educator and the feminist in me.

And seeing how men influenced the thinking behind the main character’s actions made me wonder what it would mean for our world if men themselves were part of the movement to decenter men.

While this concept sounds simple enough, it actually requires a deep examination of how heteropatriarchy embeds itself in all of our relationships, decision-making, and opinions, and shifts our self-worth toward the comfort and validation of men. In fact, the term, which was popularized by Sherese (Charlie) Taylor, sociologist and author of the book “Decenter Men,” has been more prominent in cultural conversation in the past few years through the growing interest of the 4B movement and the rise of conservatism (and subsequently, tradwives).

These trends are pushing women and nonbinary people to examine how their existence is diminished by putting men above everything else.

Historically, women and nonbinary people have been at the frontlines of these discussions about gender equality. We’ve long been evaluating the role that straight cis men play in our lives, and becoming aware of how our own wants and needs are often put on the back burner. We question, out loud, why romantic relationships with men are seen as more valuable than others or why society has told us we need to remain palatable to men’s desires.

What might actually shift the tide is men entering this conversation. Although it might seem counterintuitive, dissecting the ways we can dismantle the patriarchy is actually good for them too. But before any of that can happen, men have to acknowledge that they are the center of everything.

Because men gain the most from the patriarchy, they are also responsible for dismantling it, says Manijeh Badiee, a queer psychologist in California.

And although we need male allyship within the movement to decenter men for it to succeed, that’s not the only reason why men should be involved. When men reorient themselves outside the center of our culture, they too benefit from experiencing more fulfilling lives with broader possibilities. “There’s suddenly more ways to experience life,” says California-based queer therapist, Ava Shakib.

Because if patriarchy exists as a map for our lives, it’s not just women who suffer; men also “experience the side effects of being closed off from living more freely and autonomously,” Shakib tells me.

Shakib describes anger as one of the only societally acceptable emotions for men to experience, and in a culture “without gendered boxes, a person can see that other emotions live underneath their anger, like guilt, betrayal, and annoyance.”

According to Badiee, “Research on men’s gender role conflict demonstrates that men who adhere to traditional masculinity norms face worse mental health outcomes, have lower quality relationships, and tend to be more violent.” By abandoning patriarchal norms that tell men it’s not OK to convey “feminine” emotions, men gain deeper access to themselves and their desires. Men intentionally accessing their emotions could profoundly improve how we all relate to each other. I mean, let’s be realistic. It could possibly prevent wars.

Imagine more straight men claiming their right to engage in the practices of connection and bonding that other identities do. For example, in the social sphere, “men can experience openness and connection when they engage in ‘feminine’ activities like gossip and feelings-sharing,” Shakib says.

Ironically, the act of decentering oneself in society can make you feel more connected to others, more likely to form secure, intimate bonds, and more seen. But as our psychologists lay out, that’s what rejecting the patriarchy can achieve. And while those of us who aren’t cis men can sit around and muse about how amazing that would be, putting it into practice feels nearly impossible. Ultimately, therapy feels like a wise first step.

When men begin to live a life of decentering, the effects reverberate not just for themselves, but as the “other people in their life witness this expansiveness and are, in a way, given permission to live outside the box, too,” remarks Shakib, giving all people the chance to live a life of authenticity. In a world where men are committed to stepping back from the center, there is greater safety for all people to construct individuality without expectation and to allow others to do the same.
 
If you want to know what a world where men are no longer considered important would look like, you are in it. This is a post-scarcity age where heavy lifting is optional, and if you need wealth, we can just print more of it.

Buzzwords, gender ideology, and patriarchy aside, this could be considered the most tongue-in-cheek dishonest articles I have yet to see this year if not for the fact the author probably believes everything they/them said.
 
Would hazard a guess it would be like this.
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She’s making an appeal to the patriarchy to dismantle the patriarchy and replaced it with what? Nothing and women.
 
Braindead writer for multiple reasons.

These are the same people who complain the cocktail bars in NYC are devoid of eligible straight men in their 30s and 40s. Also "why didn't someone do anything on the subway when [horrible crime]". Chase normal white men out of deep blue cities, then bitch they're gone.
Yet this is how I’ve felt when talking about Netflix’s “Adolescence,” a series that came out last year
Now talk about how the real life perpetrator of that crime was black, not some little white boy. I dare you.
 
So where exactly in this article was the part describing a non "patriarchal" society?

The vague nonsense these people push is so devoid of substance that all it ever amounts to is "men bad!", and then they have the gall to demand men fix this fictitious problem.

The female academics modus operandi is almost always critique or deconstruction. Why you ask? Because they're incapable of creation. Critiquing and deconstructing are incredibly easy, what are critiquing and deconstructing if not a sophisticated form of bitching?

It takes months to construct a home, but you can destroy it in a matter of hours. That is to say, it's difficult to be positive(in the sense that you're building or creating) but it's incredibly easy to be negative. Negativity takes no real effort because it only seeks to dismantle or reject, and feminist critique is just a flat out rejection dressed up as a dismantling.
 
Witnessing the chilling effects of online manosphere communities, the repackaging of misogyny from generation to generation, and the process of how toxic masculinity gets normalized by peers all struck a chord with both the sex educator and the feminist in me.

I am convinced none, NONE of these people watched that fucking series. It is not what the series shows at all. Andrew Tate and his gaggle of niggers are a throw away line in the thing. The entire show barely mentions red pill "ideology". The girls on the school were just as fucking shit as the boys, and the entire thing is shown as the youth really not being alright.

Everyone in the show is miserable and hates the system. The boy is seriously fucking hurt and confused and comes across as being mad and not being evil. The police are shown are incompetent and near useless, the "therapist" comes off as a cunt who does a horrible job talking to the kid, the dad comes off as a cuckhold and the mom as a cold bitch. The school sounds more like a jail than the actual jail the kids is gonna go to and the youths of the school (a lot of who are "diverse") come off as some sort of Lord of the Flies new society using arcane social media posturing as social status games.
 
The western world (the US, UK, Can, etc...) already doesn't center men. The continued presence of men in every aspect of life just shows how vital men are, and how impossible a female only world is. If the continued presence of men simply bothers you, that means you don't want men decentered, but exterminated. Just be honest about what you want.

We question, out loud, why romantic relationships with men are seen as more valuable than others or why society has told us we need to remain palatable to men’s desires.
Yeah I can think of a reason or two why that's the case...
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fuck misandry fuck misogyny

all of the worlds problems can be associated with fucking sickos
 
We’ve long been evaluating the role that straight cis men play in our lives, and becoming aware of how our own wants and needs are often put on the back burner.
How is this gendered, women play significant roles in mens lives and men regularly put their wants and needs on the backburner for others too. Its as simple as "Not everyone can have everything at all times".

We question, out loud, why romantic relationships with men are seen as more valuable than others
Because without those relationships the world runs out of children. You'll understand more why society wants to avoid this in 20 years as the population crunch gets spicy.

or why society has told us we need to remain palatable to men’s desires.
Because if men don't want you, then you don't contribute to the above point. And this also isn't gendered, men are eternally mocked to shit if they're not palatable to women's desire.

Imagine more straight men claiming their right to engage in the practices of connection and bonding that other identities do.
We already do. Women still don't understand the bromance or how men engage and form social groups with each other. And the whole crux of this article is "men are doing feelings wrong", from the perspective of "if they don't do it exactly as I do, then they're not doing it at all obviously". The irony of an article about "decentering oneself" while demanding others behave exactly as you do is almost too much for me to think they're serious. Almost.

Dunno why I wanted to pick this apart, nothing here is new, but its annoying to see so much deliberate ignorance play out over and over again.
 
It would look like the modern corporate world - where hordes of jeets took over the place because the divine anointed queen bees put in charge can't come to a 100% consensus among themselves fast enough (or ever) to do anything about it.
 
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