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A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
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The problem, IMO is that you basically have to get up and say "Yeah shit will be fucked for at least a year; but this is just something we have to do." and then kick out all the foreigns and your economy staggers around drunkenly and people suffer
The problem is that people are fucking retarded and will blame you for something that was bound to happen. Look at maggie, I'm not going to say she was perfect but the fact that she and she alone gets blamed for the mines closing instead of it being a much wider issue than that. If you 'ruin' the economy then you and you alone will be known for that. You will be the economy's sargon rape comments. Immigration is not sustainable. The national grid is not sustainable. The food supply is not sustainable. Nothing is. But as long as I do not have to deal with it then it's not a problem. And it gets kicked down the road further and further until every white woman is pregnant with a forced brown baby and we're all living by candle light eating tinned food and the unperishable slop vegan 'food'.
homeowners and old people absolutely shit themselves because their pensions and investments dissolve
Or more specifically banks. There are few things more immoral than investment bankers. Why yes the bank does need to own hundreds of thousands of houses. No you cannot have a mortgage for one of them pay up rentoid. Idk but I would like to imagine that most homeowners do not give a shit about property value. I do not own a house because I want funny line to go up. I just don't want to freeze to death on the streets. Pensions are fucked anyway so what difference does it make? The government already can't afford to pay them so they might as well just tough it out. You lived through a fucking world war you can live through not having a personal nigger slave hand deliver you food for a couple years.
 
Or more specifically banks. There are few things more immoral than investment bankers. Why yes the bank does need to own hundreds of thousands of houses. No you cannot have a mortgage for one of them pay up rentoid. Idk but I would like to imagine that most homeowners do not give a shit about property value. I do not own a house because I want funny line to go up. I just don't want to freeze to death on the streets. Pensions are fucked anyway so what difference does it make? The government already can't afford to pay them so they might as well just tough it out. You lived through a fucking world war you can live through not having a personal nigger slave hand deliver you food for a couple years.
I agree, but people are allergic to the idea that they fucked up. That's one of the many root causes of our problems; a lot of older people live in a fantasy land where their investment and their jobs and their patterns of voting magically didn't do anything. They expect for their security to be locked in and non negotiable while we are supposed to eat shit and bootstrap ourselves. They - as a group - will not accept a downgrade. But they need one. We have multiple millstones around our necks and the "The Olds" are one of them. Unfortunately.
 
In fact, Wilson closed more pits than Grantham's finest ever did.

Just don't tell (now ex) Labour voters this, it really hurts them and makes them angry.

Know it's not strictly a Britbong subject, but as 'Trump's International Fascist Footy Tournament' draws ever closer, should the Ruski's be allowed back in?

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Edit: Tulip Siddiq sentenced to four years in prison:


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They - as a group - will not accept a downgrade. But they need one.
What the fuck are you saying? Do you not realise that depriving an oap of their fucking lard sandwich is literally a war crime? Not even Hitler did that. They were drinking straight melted lard while the Germans were bombing them and you WANT to make it WORSE than that?
should the Ruski's be allowed back in?
No. All football should be cancelled. Unless a team representing that country is made up of solely people from that country they should not be allowed to play. What's the fucking point in having a tournament to decide who the best team is when it's just fucking random people. Fuck yea England number one footie team and it's made up of 5 Europeans 5 browns and the only actual English people are shoved in the places that were left. If I wanted to support somalifc I would do so, I don't need 50 different versions of it. Same goes for the olympics and basically every sport too. You represent your ethnicity not your nationality.
 
Idk but I would like to imagine that most homeowners do not give a shit about property value.
Frankly, I'd rather my house be worth less so that when the time comes my son, my nieces and nephews, my cousins kids, etc, can buy their own houses. I want my younger friends and relatives who are now young adults to be able to buy houses. I want any couple who wants to make the decision to have a stay at home parent to have that be a feasible option. All of that is worth more to me in every possible way than my house being worth an amount that's essentially imaginary, because if I sell it, I have to spend just as much on somewhere else to live.
 
What the fuck are you saying? Do you not realise that depriving an oap of their fucking lard sandwich is literally a war crime? Not even Hitler did that. They were drinking straight melted lard while the Germans were bombing them and you WANT to make it WORSE than that?
I don't think it's their fault, they just followed the smart money at the time and the incentives at the time; but those things don't exist anymore. We're down for a shitty time regardless IMO, because our economy is built on bullshit and fairy dust. Fixing the housing market cannot be done with house building, we could have to concrete over our entire country and it still wouldn't be enough. We would have to asset strip from foreigns, and asset strip from corporate landlords, and build houses. If we do that, the housing market will implode. A lot of older people own houses as a form of wealth security.

As it currently stands, I am paying into a pension that I will never be able to access. It exists to fund someone elses pension and honestly I'm fucking sick of it. I'm just sick of funding other peoples lives. I don't want to do it, I hate doing it, it pisses me off. Everywhere I go, I just see leeches. It's like a seething colony of parasites devouring my ability to build a life and it fucks me off. I pay for my healthcare out of pocket because the money I give to the government is pissed into an endless black hole.

EDIT: More ragebait from Reform.


Good solid British candidate here.
 
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As it currently stands, I am paying into a pension that I will never be able to access. It exists to fund someone elses pension and honestly I'm fucking sick of it.
Why do you think you are funding someone else's pension? Because it was stolen from them and given to the migrants. It's not even a secret.
The WASPI women who were robbed of £50,000 of their money, the tax they paid in over the decades, was taken and the governments, both labour and tory, crunched the numbers and said it would cost £5 billion to give them back their own money.
Then announced £15 billion for housing, just housing, migrants, both legal and illegal.

The propaganda is aimed at getting young people to sperg about 'boomers' (anyone who uses the term is a brain-rotted NPC) to justify robbing you of your money.
Umbeke and Akmed are taking your tax money. Not just from pensioners, but bin collecting, pot hole repair, hospitals, schools.

Our structures are collapsing, and the money we pay in tax isn't used to fix them, it's used to house chekwe-wabmala and ali-bin-muhammed's and pay the police off for their rape sprees.

All racism and paki sperging aside, I have never seen the roads this bad in my life and not one politician has put forward any tax or legislation or plan to fix the roads.
 
But as for what the benefit of being PM is - really?
The question is what is the benefit for Nigel. He's not a Boris, who is content to take the glory while other people fuck up on his behalf. He's a paranoid micromanager who is obsessed with projecting an image, but who still shirks any real responsibility for any actions he takes. His record speaks for itself. He will take the glory while he can, claim as many expenses as possible, grab a pension, and then fuck off first chance he gets.
Your Party is freefalling more than Gazza at a vodka tasting session
Class. If you could work in a cantona ref as well, you'll be set for life.
Edit: Tulip Siddiq sentenced to four years in prison:
And as much as I might rag on are nige, the fact that the current government's anti-corruption minister is embroiled in a corruption scandal of this magnitude - and this is just one of multiple - is exactly why Reform will continue to make gains.
All racism and paki sperging aside, I have never seen the roads this bad in my life and not one politician has put forward any tax or legislation or plan to fix the roads.
Road quality still seems to be regionally dependent. Just last week I was on a drive over to Sheffield, from parts unknown. I knew when I'd crossed the border into derbyshire because I suddenly stopped hitting potholes every five hundred feet.
 
Fixing the housing market cannot be done with house building, we could have to concrete over our entire country and it still wouldn't be enough. We would have to asset strip from foreigns, and asset strip from corporate landlords, and build houses. If we do that, the housing market will implode. A lot of older people own houses as a form of wealth security.

As it currently stands, I am paying into a pension that I will never be able to access. It exists to fund someone elses pension and honestly I'm fucking sick of it. I'm just sick of funding other peoples lives. I don't want to do it, I hate doing it, it pisses me off. Everywhere I go, I just see leeches. It's like a seething colony of parasites devouring my ability to build a life and it fucks me off. I pay for my healthcare out of pocket because the money I give to the government is pissed into an endless black hole.
So if we can't realistically increase the supply of something.....what can be done ? Possibly look at demand side issues. Now what would be one way of possibly dampening the demand for housing ? ( Countdown clock playing in the background ).........Could it be to get rid of the massive influx of non-indigenous population ? If the goverment deported say 5 million worthless subhuman scum that contribute nothing to the economy, that might possibly have an impact ? More than that, it would most likely impact at the lower end of the market where most first time buyers are.......
I totally agree with you about leeches. But I've been banging on about this forever. There are simply too many people in this country with their hands out expecting a free ride and not contributing to the economy.
From my ( entirely biased, but I would agure realistic perspective ) how do you get voted into power on a manifesto of deportations and slashing benefits, lowering taxes and hammering the poncing inefficient ( polite euphemism for fucking lazy ) public sector ?
That would be the only way to sort out the economic and civil problems in this country - but then you'd have pakis, blacks, the unemployed North and the teachers, train drivers, civil service and all the other poncing unions voting against you. In other words everybody that isn't white and doesn't work for a living. We have reached a critical mass it seems, where the poncing mass outweighs those that work for a living - a doom spiral, in the fact that the ponces can't be sustained any more, but can't be outvoted to change the system to a more sustainable one either.
Why do you think you are funding someone else's pension? Because it was stolen from them and given to the migrants. It's not even a secret.
The UK State Pension is primarily funded on a "pay-as-you-go" (PAYG) basis, meaning current National Insurance (NI) contributions from working-age adults pay for the pensions of current retirees. It is not a fund where personal contributions are invested for the future, but rather a tax-funded benefit.

So in that respect Chunky is correct in the fact that his NI contributions pay the current old folk's pensions. The idea being that the current generation of old folk paid for their parents' pensions. So in theory the generation below us should be paying our pensions.
The problem is of course dependency ratios ( steadily increasing, aging population, smaller current workforce ) and the fact that the system was designed a while ago when people's life expectancy meant most people were only being paid out for a few years, rather than the decades they are now ( actuarial tables, etc ).

Is the current system sustainable as it is ? Probably not, especially not if you have all the other detractors from the public purse I've outlined above.
The reality of the situation is that there are simply too many hangers on and some hard decisions are going to have to be made, but NO POLITICIAN ( and I mean none ) has the stones to do it, because it would always be very unpopular with one or more of the sections of society.
The simple fact of the matter is the pie is basically the same size or maginally increasing ( all this line goes up business you lot love talking about ) but PER CAPITA it is less. What happens at pizza time ? If you order the special and there's 3 of you, it's a feast, if there's 33, you barely get a mouthful each. Labour's plan was to order two specials, but they have no idea where the pizza shop is, who owns it, what they do, or how to order ( they have killed economic growth with taxes to fund the bonuses they paid to all the ponces who voted them in ).
That is the problem with the Chancellor's modelling, they don't seem to take the crucial factor of how many people into account.

Personally, I have always thought that those who pay in the most should be the first in line to get paid back out ( I don't mean they should get more, but just to me, it seems like very basic fairness that those who contribute the most should get something back ). Whereas those who pay in the least should be at the back of the queue. Unfortunately bleeding heart socialists structured it so the most "in need" are the most deserving. The current government seems to view our "refugee friends" as the most deserving ( despite having contributed nothing ).

All racism and paki sperging aside, I have never seen the roads this bad in my life and not one politician has put forward any tax or legislation or plan to fix the roads.
I think there are a multitude of reasons for this. Greens don't want the roads fixed, we should all be busy recycling, eating bugs and cycling everywhere. A massive factor is electric vehicles. They are a lot heavier than other types of vehicle ( 20-30% ) so it stands to reason that there will be extra force required to move them and stop them. As they aren't hover cars, this force has to go through the tyres and into the roads. This has to mean that electric cars will wear out the roads faster. A third reason is possibly our increasingly Orwellian State doesn't want the peasants to have the ability to travel ( either the freedom it creates ( they certainly want you tracked ) or the ability to travel to be part of a group (resistance)),
Also, so far as I'm aware, road tax isn't earmarked exclusively to the upkeep of roads. It disappears into the pot and is spent on keeping the invaders and dole ponces in the life they have become accustomed to.
 
Any party that stated any of these things clearly would instantly be labelled a terrorist organisation and banned.
Exactly - which is why Reform UK need to keep their powder dry and work towards this quietly.

Once we're rid of the ECHR, UN and the godawful BBC then the push right can begin as it'll then hopefully be in line with the thinking of the majority of the electorate.

Slowly slowly catchy (or deporty) monkey.

Not sure how many railfans are here, but this YT page is apparently dividing opinions over land access and conspiracy theories in the far north of Scotland:


Apparently, the couple featured (Ian appleby and Liz Howe) are English and bought the old Station Master's house at Altnabreac (south of Georgemas Junction where the lines to Wick and Thurso diverge - the UK's northernmost railway junction) but there are disputes over how much land they own.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-095d6TOrAo gives an alternative view to the couple.

Which side are you on?
 
Road quality still seems to be regionally dependent. Just last week I was on a drive over to Sheffield, from parts unknown. I knew when I'd crossed the border into derbyshire because I suddenly stopped hitting potholes every five hundred feet.
I travelled from one end of the M1 to the other a couple of times not long back. The roads are as fucked at one end as they are on the other. Standing water, no lights (Why the fuck are there no fucking lights on a motorway!?!?! it infuriates me), massive cracks between the lanes and potholes and undulations in the outside lane. I used to be a bit of a fast driver, now I shit my britches above 75 because the roads are like bomb zones.

Some streets are so bad up north that you occasionally drive on century-old cobblestones buried beneath the streets.
The UK State Pension is primarily funded on a "pay-as-you-go" (PAYG) basis
It wasn't always, not until blair and his ilk saw a massive pot of money earmarked "pension fund" and thought "well, it's so big, we can dip a little bit and everything will be ok", then spent everyone elses money, like the love doing, combined with not taking into account, or not caring, about the massive population explosion caused by his open border policies and here we are.
The tories and libs did naff all to stop it either.
the unemployed North
Alright, put down the shandy and jellied eels.
This has to mean that electric cars will wear out the roads faster.
Not just the weight, the torque on electric cars is immense compared to a normal car, which tears the roads up. It's why a lot of pot holes are around traffic lights, exists of roundabouts and corners.
increasingly Orwellian State doesn't want the peasants to have the ability to travel
They do not want us travel. I've lost count of "X has caused travel disruption to trains/planes". Every month we have something where trains don't work for parts of the country or flights are delayed/cancelled.
 
As things currently stand, I would reluctantly vote reform. 6 months ago, I would've had a lot less reluctance. I voted reform at the previous general election, although I knew in my constituency that it was pissing into the wind. Since then, I've lost what confidence I may have had in Farage to actually make a seismic change (yes, I had been ignoring the warning signs).

The recent amount and type of Tory defections rattled what confidence I had, because now I just think that if Reform get in, its going to be instant factionalism and that they won't even have prepared for power despite it seeming so clear even now. A bunch of Tories jumping ship like rats, who will undoubtedly bring the same old party infighting that they have learnt from their extensive political history.

The hopelessly rose tinted moi of 6 months ago thought Farage might ride into Downing St with a humongous majority made up of outsider, new-to-politics MPs who were basically just happy to be there and so would green light whatever Farage tabled, and that this would consist of firmly worded laws ready to be submitted on day one of a reform government.

Now, I'm not so sure. The realist within me now expects that the best that can come will be the removal of some of the pull factors for migrants, both legal and illegal. Removal of ability to claim benefits, removal of free NHS care etc. But even to do something like that, Reform will have to be so specific in their manifesto in order to not have the Lords intervene (and thats assuming that the Lords stick to the Salisbury convention). But now I strongly doubt that Farage is actually going to have this in place. He would still win, but then get stymied by the Westminster swamp, despite right wing pundits shouting even now about the need to plan ahead.

Reform are the official opposition in all but name right now, yet it just feels like the Nigel & Zia show, rather than actually having any sort of shadow cabinet. I want, and I think a lot of the right want, to hear actual solid statements of what is going to be done in a Reform government; actual constructive game plans. The most important first step will be the taming of the civil service, which no longer serves to implement gov policy but instead construct the will of the people to enact change via their elected representatives. They need to be drastically gutted, as they no longer (if ever?) exist to serve as neutral enactors of elected government policy.

I've had a few too many beers to flesh the above out further, and being a mobilefag doesnt help. But I will end by saying that I am thinking ahead more to what happens after the Reform government. What will happen if Reform get into power, and fluff it and blame the civil service blob? I would now expect Nigel to duck out before it got too hairy for him - he'd frame it as "I set out to shake up Westminster, and I have done so by getting Reform elected! No no, you were silly for thinking I would actually get my hands dirty by actually having to implement anything that I implied in order to get elected!". I imagine a lot of pissed off people who weren't as aware of Farage's / Reform's character, who now realise that while they have been taken for a ride, they've been able to break the incumbency of Tories and Labour and so can look to other non-traditional, upstart parties. With the potential to set up a contender that is further to the right, that may well be more comfortable and successful to get closer to an ethnic nationalism framing of the societal situation.

I would enjoy Rupert Lowe to step into that role, but I do somewhat think that by the time of the backlash against a failing Reform government, Lowe will be feeling too old to lead a political party.
 
Which side are you on?
As much as I enjoy a good story about fucking the govt/big corps over or schizos up to no good, these two in this case are just plain retarded and fucking up access for other locals and the small tourist industry the area gets. I've been following their tard battle now for a year or two and they've basically got no legal leg to stand on. They've purchased an old station master's cottage that, when it was first sold by the railways, a section of the land that was originally on that deed was carved out to maintain access to the station and not included in the property after that point. They're claiming that because it once was part of the property it still is now.

The pair have a very interesting history too when they were back down in England, the woman was a GMP copper I think and she just randomly disappeared for several months and came back crazy.
 
If that much changed in your mind in 6 months, keep in mind that there are 7 lots of 6 months to go before the election.

A whole lot can happen in that time and people are generally retarded with short memories. Labour could lower taxes in 2029 and win in a landslide.
 
Exactly - which is why Reform UK need to keep their powder dry and work towards this quietly.

Once we're rid of the ECHR, UN and the godawful BBC then the push right can begin as it'll then hopefully be in line with the thinking of the majority of the electorate.

Slowly slowly catchy (or deporty) monkey.
Look at this faggot still coping that his party of browns will start deporting their own.
 
I honestly don't think Reform is even going to make the election at this point. The management is so paranoid of having its MPs speak other than Nigel, and the Paki, that calling it a political party is pointless.

I have not even heard their MPs bring in a single policy except Pochin on banning Burqas, which made the Paki very angry, and rage quit. Only to come back because he realised "Oh, I am a scheming Paki and I want some kind of clout." A power vacuum is emerging in real time, but Nigel is too egotistical to let them speak. This is the same shit that happened with UKIP.

They're so fucking stressed about making it a broadchurch party like the Conservatives post Theresa of Wheatfield, they have turned their voting bloc away that they initially flirted with. Even their sycophants are starting to be black pilled. Once the polling plummets. Members will urge Nigel to course correct and actually be a fucking right-wing party and not this Paki ladder climb incubator.

I will never vote for them on principle.
 
And as much as I might rag on are nige, the fact that the current government's anti-corruption minister is embroiled in a corruption scandal of this magnitude - and this is just one of multiple - is exactly why Reform will continue to make gains.
To be fair she stepped down as minister. To be less fair Labour continue to stand by her and de facto her aunt too by calling the process illegitimate.
Former minister and Labour MP Tulip Siddiq has been sentenced to four years in prison for corruption charges by a court in Bangladesh, in a process the Labour Party has criticised as unfair.
The court also sentenced Siddiq's aunt, the ousted Prime Minister Sheikh Hasina, and two other family members to varying prison terms in separate corruption cases.
The defendants, who were tried in absentia, denied the charges.
Responding to the sentences, a Labour Party spokesman said: "Tulip Siddiq has not had access to a fair legal process in this case and has never been informed of the details of the charges against her."

"This is despite repeated requests made to the Bangladeshi authorities through her legal team.
"Anyone facing any charge should always be afforded the right to make legal representations when allegations are made against them.
"Given that has not happened in this case, we cannot recognise this judgment."

The four-year sentence comes on top of a two-year sentence for corruption charges handed to Siddiq towards the end of last year.
In December 2025, she was found guilty of influencing her aunt to use "her special power" to secure a plot of land in the outskirts of the capital Dhaka.
The Hampstead and Highgate MP described the process as "flawed and farcical from the beginning to the end".
"I'm absolutely baffled by the whole thing - I've still had no contact whatsoever from the Bangladeshi authorities despite them spreading malicious allegations about me for a year-and-a-half now."
Siddiq was forced to step down as a UK Treasury minister in January 2025 following questions about links to her aunt, including her use of properties in London linked to her aunt's allies.
The prime minister's ethics adviser, Sir Laurie Magnus, said he had "not identified evidence of improprieties" but it was "regrettable" that Siddiq had not been more alert to the "potential reputational risks" of the connection.
In her resignation letter, Siddiq said she had "acted with full transparency" but would be stepping down to avoid becoming "a distraction" for the government.
The court cases against Hasina and members of her family were launched following her removal as Bangladesh's leader.
Hasina had led the country for 15 years but fled to India in August 2024 in the face of mass uprisings.
Last year, she was sentenced to death for crimes against humanity over a crackdown on the student protests.
Hasina called the trial "biased and politically motivated".
 
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