War NRA and pro-gun groups call for ‘full investigation’ into killing of Alex Pretti - Groups typically aligned with Trump call for investigation as NRA wades into the national dialogue

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The National Rifle Association (NRA) has joined other gun lobbying and advocacy groups that are typically aligned with Donald Trump in calling for the Republican president’s administration to conduct a “full investigation” into the killing of Alex Pretti, the 37-year-old nurse who was shot dead by federal immigration officials in Minneapolis on Saturday.
Pretti was reportedly legally permitted to carry a gun and is a citizen of the US, where it is a constitutional right to bear arms. Widely circulated video of his shooting death does not depict him ever holding a gun. It does show an officer reaching to Pretti’s lower back and stepping away with what appeared to be a pistol – and Pretti being subsequently shot to death.

The NRA waded into the national dialogue over Pretti’s killing after Bill Essayli – who was appointed by Trump to temporarily serve as a US attorney in California in 2025 – posted on social media: “If you approach law enforcement with a gun, there is a high likelihood they will be legally justified in shooting you.”
In response, the NRA posted: “This sentiment … is dangerous and wrong. Responsible public voices should be awaiting a full investigation, not making generalizations and demonizing law-abiding citizens.”
Gun Owners of America, a non-profit lobbying organization, also criticized that claim from Essayli – who is now an acting first assistant US attorney for California’s central federal district court.

“Federal agents are not ‘highly likely’ to be ‘legally justified’ in ‘shooting’ concealed carry licensees who approach while lawfully carrying a firearm,” the group posted. It added that the US constitution’s second amendment “protects Americans’ right to bear arms while protesting – a right the federal government must not infringe upon.”
California governor Gavin Newsom’s press office responded to the NRA’s criticism of Essayli, saying on social media, “Wow. Even the NRA thinks Trump’s [justice department] stooge in California has gone too far for claiming federal agents were ‘legally justified’ to kill Alex Pretti.”
Newsom’s press office added: “Your position is truly horrible when even the NRA calls you out.”
Essayli in turn claimed: “You’re adding words to mischaracterize my statement.” He argued that he meant “agitators approaching law enforcement with a gun and refusing to disarm” risked being justifiably shot by officers.
Nonetheless, Essayli’s post received a community note on X which said the US constitution prohibits “officers from shooting citizens merely for possessing a weapon that is not an ‘imminent threat’”. Beside the second amendment, the community note alluded to the constitution’s fourth amendment rights against unreasonable search and seizure and its 14th amendment rights to equal protection under the law.
Yet Essayli also posted: “My advice stands. If you value your life, do not aggressively approach law enforcement while armed. If they reasonably perceive a threat and you fail to immediately disarm, they are legally permitted to use deadly force.”
Former NRA spokesperson Dana Loesch, who has generally been supportive of Trump, also pushed back on Essayli, stating on social media: “Your words verbatim were ‘if you approach law enforcement with a gun.’ What does this mean to you? Do you believe that mere legal possession within the vicinity of [law enforcement officer] is a criminal offense or merits use of force as response? Language matters.”
Thomas Massie, a Republican US representative of Kentucky, separately wrote to Essayli: “Carrying a firearm is not a death sentence, it’s a Constitutionally protected God-given right, and if you don’t understand this you have no business in law enforcement or government.”
Witnesses stated in sworn testimonies that Pretti was not brandishing a gun when federal immigration officers descended on him. Those statements are both consistent with publicly available video evidence and contradict the Trump administration’s claims that the shots officers aimed at Pretti were defensive in nature.
Among those to call for a criminal investigation into Pretti’s killing was Newsom’s office, saying one was necessary for the public to “fully understand what occurred and maintain confidence in the rule of law”.
The Minnesota Gun Owners Caucus issued a similar call.
“Despite widespread speculation regarding intent, there has been no evidence produced indicating an intent to harm the officers,” the group stated in a press release. “We are calling for a full and transparent investigation by both state and federal authorities.
“Every peaceable Minnesotan has the right to keep and bear arms – including while attending protests, acting as observers, or exercising their first amendment rights” to peaceably assemble.
The caucus’ statement continued: “These rights do not disappear when someone is lawfully armed, and they must be respected and protected at all times.”
The caucus then took verbal aim at FBI director Kash Patel after he appeared on Sunday on Fox News and asserted with respect to Pretti: “You cannot bring a firearm, loaded, with multiple magazines to any sort of protest that you want. It’s that simple. You don’t have a right to break the law.”
To Patel, the caucus replied on social media: “There is no prohibition on a permit holder carrying a firearm, loaded, with multiple magazines at a protest or rally in Minnesota.”
When a user told the caucus that Pretti was accused of not having an ID on him, which he was required to do under Minnesota’s law governing permits to carry a concealed gun, the caucus responded: “It’s a $25 ticket.”
Among those who donated to Essayli – who held a seat in California’s state assembly from 2023 to April – was the NRA.
Notably, while successfully campaigning for a second presidency in 2024, Trump publicly said to an audience that “your guns will be confiscated” if he lost to election rival Kamala Harris.
“They’re gonna confiscate your guns,” Trump said. “I’m the one that’s protecting” them. He also bragged about having “the total endorsement of every gun group, including the NRA”.
Harris later said at a debate with Trump: “We’re not taking anybody’s guns away.” The NRA responded with a statement declaring Trump was correct in saying Harris supported gun confiscation.


 
Okay, now be unfair.

What's the word on weather? (Remember, be to biased.)

Dumbass.
There's a couple kinds of people who conceal carry I think.
You left out a bunch, but people will probably "like" your comment because you added stylistic, faggot-friendly font choices because you're creative. How very DEI of you!

Remember, it's okay not to comment. I do it a lot and sleep pretty well at night.
 
Is this story misrepresenting what the NRA, et. al., are doing? Or have they be finally be co-opted by the left?
They have been for years now. Since around 2012.

Anyway, I'd rather have ICE than the second amendment unless they let me use said second amendment to get rid of the shitskins myself.
 
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1. Is this the mag people said he was picking up? I could see how that might look like gun.

2. Riddle me this, where is the glowies head?

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Please no fightiiiiing

An investigation should be carried out regardless
Call me a libtard if you must but I as an american get mighty upset when federal agents kill a fellow citizen.
That being said I can see the justification with Renee Goode but with this shooting it doesn't look justified and if we simply let the feds get away with murder do you not think the left when in charge will not just get away with waco next time.
I get the right wants to own the libs but you should be scared because a red line was crossed here and if you thought last week was bad Minnesota and maybe more of the country will burn.
I'm of the opinion that Pretti went looking for trouble, found it, and got what he deserved from it on a bunch of levels, but I'm what the 30-second attention span default-liberal normies would probably call a "psychotic ultra fascist". If only I were actually that cool....

Anyways, whenever I want to know what the smooth-brained default-liberal normies think, I go watch Charlie, and well, here's what he had to say:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=jd4YXki8l2c
Short version: normies are siding with the rioter.

Among right wing types like most of us, the conclusion is FAFO, the leftoids were always going to scream "Gestapo," but in the eyes of the voting public at large, I'm going to have to agree with @LillWeeb, massive optics L. Hopefully the administration has the balls to go even harder on the rioters, as that's the only way to restore order and save face, but they don't have such a great track record in that department. Would be happy to be proven wrong on that though.

This will probably blow over when some more stupid shit happens on Tuesday, but I get the sinking feeling that the progressives' stolen Hamas tactic of "get them to kill enough of us and it will ruin their reputation with soft-hearted, smooth-brained normies" will probably be noticeably effective with public opinion in the US. The Dems are banking on this and will continue stirring shit until they generate another George Floyd moment. I don't think this is it, though.
At the end of the day most lefties and standard liberals and even independents still have this version of America that were a nation of immigrants and we took the side of racist bigots not adopting the hart cellar act earlier.
 
So this faggot went armed to confront Federal Law Enforcement Officers with the notion it is somehow legal to defend yourself AT ALL, with a gun or by resisting in any way, against an LEO, which is nigger tier thinking.

Local redditors here are doing their second "how do I first time gun buyer" thread in a couple weeks. Read between the lines on some and some just read the lines and they're insinuating they're going to be carrying at upcoming protests to be a 2a tyranny-deleter ”2a ain't about hunting friendo!" (Not making that up about that hunting line)

I think a lot are on their the way to doing a cargo cult imitation of a lot of chud ccw sayings/product consooming and such with the addition of having the kind of broken brains that ensure very high chances these new pistols get flashed or talked about when the nuggies are cold or some guy drives bad* or has stickers on his chud-truck that are scary.

Ain't no classes or fingerprinting here to wait on either, the fun could be starting any time.

*There are weekly "psa left lane" threads where they do imitations of shitty 90s comedians/pedowood people, important/grown-up people who get real angry about traffic or airport things. Inefficiencies that are caused by "stupid people"
 
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Hey NRA, why not focus on Virginia wiping its ass with their citizens' rights? Oh wait, you gotta squeal about a race traitor getting what he deserved lmfao. Fucking figures. All these NGOs are worthless. Yes, it should be investigated, but I also don't fucking give a shit what the contexts were.

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pictures and videos kind of say otherwise, the optics for ice are terrible.
Really? I think that's great. Kind of like how I love @Blewberry Nausea 's new pfp.

based based based.webp

Can you say b-b-b-b-based?!?!

I get the right wants to own the libs but you should be scared because a red line was crossed here and if you thought last week was bad Minnesota and maybe more of the country will burn.
Maybe if progressives hadn't chimped out in 2020 I would give a fuck, but they did, and I don't. My only problem with what happened is that more of them aren't getting shot. I fully anticipate Trump to pussy out because he is worthless, but this isn't a "red line" at all. You people crossed the line repeatedly years ago, and us not caring about your worthless lives is a direct result of you crossing said lines.
 
pictures and videos kind of say otherwise, the optics for ice are terrible.
Youre a retard.

I agree with you, but you're still an out-of-touch retard.

Bad optics RULE the day right now: Nick Fuentes, against all odds, is in a massive ascendancy arc and his following is more engorged than it's ever been.

You assume people want "good optics" in 2026. That Overton window has shifted.
 
I'm of the opinion that Pretti went looking for trouble, found it, and got what he deserved from it on a bunch of levels, but I'm what the 30-second attention span default-liberal normies would probably call a "psychotic ultra fascist". If only I were actually that cool....

Anyways, whenever I want to know what the smooth-brained default-liberal normies think, I go watch Charlie, and well, here's what he had to say:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=jd4YXki8l2c
Short version: normies are siding with the rioter.

Among right wing types like most of us, the conclusion is FAFO, the leftoids were always going to scream "Gestapo," but in the eyes of the voting public at large, I'm going to have to agree with @LillWeeb, massive optics L. Hopefully the administration has the balls to go even harder on the rioters, as that's the only way to restore order and save face, but they don't have such a great track record in that department. Would be happy to be proven wrong on that though.

This will probably blow over when some more stupid shit happens on Tuesday, but I get the sinking feeling that the progressives' stolen Hamas tactic of "get them to kill enough of us and it will ruin their reputation with soft-hearted, smooth-brained normies" will probably be noticeably effective with public opinion in the US. The Dems are banking on this and will continue stirring shit until they generate another George Floyd moment. I don't think this is it, though.
Quite probably.

Mass deportations after 30 YEARS of de facto open borders isn't gonna be pretty.

I knew that a decade ago and I'm fine with it
 
The only good gun rights org is GOA. The NRA can fuck off, they're simping for the side that is actively trying to disarm White Americans.
The GOA is also shitting itself in autism about this shooting.

Like Mr. Pretti was a hardcore gun rights type (NGL he was probably A OK with all kinds of gun bans and disallowing evil chuds from owning guns, aka a r/liberalgunowners poster)
 
What exactly was the reason that he was gangtackled by ICE in the first place? The only video I saw, he was standing there looking goofy with his camera out and then they knock some lady down on the ground and he goes over near her and then they push him and pepper spray him, and they jump him and start beating his ass and pistol whipping him.

So was he being arrested for something? What initiated the confrontation, just him recording them? Or him going over to the lady who just got knocked on her ass? Something else?

It's hard to parse out what the official ICE response is other than the factually incorrect statements from Noem (and Patel lol) doing their best Democrat impersonation by saying that citizens should not be allowed to be armed when it's inconvenient.
 
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