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Should be a wild four years.

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Hillary/Kamala, and they swap who's VP every other day.
I think the Epstein files shit is the final farewell to Killary. Honestly, Kamala/Crockett seems to be the ticket, they like to double down on failed ideas.

Maybe the thought process is just "but what if we had TWO black women?".
 
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Unironically I think the top two democrat choices in 2028 will be Newsom/Harris or AOC/Bernie. AOC and Bernie is the weakest choice because AOC isn't qualified for presidency and Bernie is too old for the position, so their potential presidency will require heavy cooperation and will def flounder if Bernie was unable to provide guidance. For Republicans Vance is the obvious choice, no clue who would be VP.
Anyway sorry for the rambling.
The Democrats are going to have a hard time selling anyone unless it's an unknown, and even an unknown is a hard sell. But an unknown may be the best chance they have in 2028.
Barring some kind of utter catastrophe in the next 3 years, I would say Vance is a lock. The senate or the house I'm not sure, but Vance has it. He has all the pros of trump, and none of the cons which is a shitty, egotistical narcissistic personality. He has the MAGA swagger without the shitty attitude and privileged background.
Plus Usha is going to get him a BIG boost with the brown vote, not to mention that any claims of muh huwyte supremacy will be brushed off by normie voters with "He can't be racist he's married to an Indian woman, you dumb fuck."
He's also going to get a huge bump with the uneducated because he's a bogan, his mother was a junkie and he doesn't hide that fact, he wears it as a badge of honor and people respect him for it.
Vance is all pro, no con.
 
Kamala lost ot Trump. She will never get the stink of defeat off her. She'll come out swinging early in the primaries but will drop before Iowa.
Let's be honest here they knew Trump was going to win and they made her a sacrificial lamb, that's why they didn't even bother with a primary.
Her political credibility was over in that 2 minutes where she got fucking bodied by Tulsi Gabbard on stage.
 
I think the Epstein files shit is the final farewell to Killary. Honestly, Kamala/Crockett seems to be the ticket, they like to double down on failed ideas.
For progressives, Hillary is seen as the embodiment of “white feminism,” and she’s very much viewed as a relic of the 2010s. Like Obama, the years have not been kind, and people have soured on her brand of Democrat. It doesn’t mean neoliberals won’t try to maintain power, but they need someone that has more subtlety. It’s why I view Newsom as the top neoliberal pick because he knows how to not come across as a bloodthirsty warmonger corporatist like Hillary often does.
 
Chauntyll Allen, Saint Paul Public Schools board member who STORMED a church with an anti-ICE mob, JUSTIFIES her actions, calls ICE murderers, and says that invading a church service was "what needed to be done."

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This woman and her cadre would definitely chain a church doors closed and set the building on fire if they ever got serious push back from the parishioners.

Brett Smiley, Mayor of Providence, Rhode Island, has signed an executive order BANNING ICE from using city-owned property while enforcing immigration law.
Does he think that includes the city's rights-of-way? If so, he's truly too stupid to live.

I'll be fair, from blowing up Iran onward Trump2.0 has been a neocon's fucking WET DREAM, assuming they actually wanted this shit and it wasn't just rattling to get MIC bux
but like I said around the Liberty Yoink, it's increasingly looking like I'm not so much against American interventionalism, I'm just against shitty weak instances of it
I'd measure the temperature on  that by looking to see if Trump starts receiving positive words from the old-school never-Trumper neocons—Bill Kristol, Tim Miller, Jonah Goldberg, Mona Charen, etc.

The DNC tends to go for already recognized names as presidential candidates. They’re like a super safe corporation that’s risk averse. They aren’t going to put millions behind someone that hasn’t made a name for themselves prior. The old guard would have to be so thoroughly defeated for them to take risks again.
Totally agree. However ...

It’s why Newsom is still a front runner
I'm still convinced that they'll keep nominating women until they can finally drag one across the finish line. I think another while man would be unsatisfactory to the base. That's one reason that Kamala (not the Ugandan Giant) keeps getting mentioned.
 
The Democrats are going to have a hard time selling anyone unless it's an unknown, and even an unknown is a hard sell. But an unknown may be the best chance they have in 2028.
Barring some kind of utter catastrophe in the next 3 years, I would say Vance is a lock. The senate or the house I'm not sure, but Vance has it. He has all the pros of trump, and none of the cons which is a shitty, egotistical narcissistic personality. He has the MAGA swagger without the shitty attitude and privileged background.
Plus Usha is going to get him a BIG boost with the brown vote, not to mention that any claims of muh huwyte supremacy will be brushed off by normie voters with "He can't be racist he's married to an Indian woman, you dumb fuck."
He's also going to get a huge bump with the uneducated because he's a bogan, his mother was a junkie and he doesn't hide that fact, he wears it as a badge of honor and people respect him for it.
Vance is all pro, no con.
JD Vance is the embodiment of the American dream.

Good luck to anyone running against him or trying to formulate a campaign against him.
 
I might have scrolled past it but has anything specific come out about the ICE involved shooting in LA? Nobody is talking about it on social media. "ICE shooting" and "LA ICE shooting" don't yield anything newer than 2 hours old.

Edit- Don't waste Stephen Miller as a VP. Give him a position with real power. Secretary of state or attorney general would be a nice fit.
 
I might have scrolled past it but has anything specific come out about the ICE involved shooting in LA? Nobody is talking about it on social media. "ICE shooting" and "LA ICE shooting" don't yield anything newer than 2 hours old.
Probably just niggers shooting at each other and someone assumed ICE was involved but it turned out it wasn't, and the press never covers niggers shooting at each other.
 
People always bring up Art of the Deal, but you don't even need to read the book to understand the older-than-dirt sales tactics that Trump regularly engages in.
I did it when I sold my car a few months ago. I listed it for $400 higher than I paid for it, as I've found that's a sweet spot to haggle down from where the buyer feels like they're getting a good deal without growing suspicious about how much you're knocking off. Lo and behold, I sold a car for the exact same price I paid, despite it having an extra three years of wear on it.
Kids these days would never survive a flea market.
 
The Democrats are going to have a hard time selling anyone unless it's an unknown, and even an unknown is a hard sell. But an unknown may be the best chance they have in 2028.
Barring some kind of utter catastrophe in the next 3 years, I would say Vance is a lock. The senate or the house I'm not sure, but Vance has it. He has all the pros of trump, and none of the cons which is a shitty, egotistical narcissistic personality. He has the MAGA swagger without the shitty attitude and privileged background.
Plus Usha is going to get him a BIG boost with the brown vote, not to mention that any claims of muh huwyte supremacy will be brushed off by normie voters with "He can't be racist he's married to an Indian woman, you dumb fuck."
He's also going to get a huge bump with the uneducated because he's a bogan, his mother was a junkie and he doesn't hide that fact, he wears it as a badge of honor and people respect him for it.
Vance is all pro, no con.
He's a thunderdomer who can act normal.
 
JD Vance is the embodiment of the American dream.

Good luck to anyone running against him or trying to formulate a campaign against him.
The best part about him is that he's what I like to call an "anti-politician". He doesn't beat around the bush (unless it's with Usha, hubba hubba), he tells the truth, he doesn't have to tear down people to make his point, and he rarely gets angry or takes the bait.
With the morality and principles that this man has, he should not have made it this far in politics. I know that's a sad thing to say but it's a reality of America. I feel like this guy somehow slipped through the cracks with his soul intact.
He should be. Newsom has no principles, no beliefs and no morality except getting elected and accruing power/wealth. He's the perfect corpo candidate.
I actually WANT it to be Newsom because there's something so cinematic and it just feels correct to watch a presidential election that really would be good versus evil, light versus dark, pro America versus anti America.
 
The best part about him is that he's what I like to call an "anti-politician". He doesn't beat around the bush (unless it's with Usha, hubba hubba), he tells the truth, he doesn't have to tear down people to make his point, and he rarely gets angry or takes the bait.
With the morality and principles that this man has, he should not have made it this far in politics. I know that's a sad thing to say but it's a reality of America. I feel like this guy somehow slipped through the cracks with his soul intact.

I actually WANT it to be Newsom because there's something so cinematic and it just feels correct to watch a presidential election that really would be good versus evil, light versus dark, pro America versus anti America.
Newsome vs Vance would be an insane campaign to watch, and the debates would be amazing.
 
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