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you realize china could lose our entire countries population and still have a billion people left?
but just having people doesn't equal being capable. china has never equaled the US in anything, except numbers and 'speed'. a quickly manufactured US good was guaranteed to last. quickly manufactured chink goods are guaranteed to be tofu dregs.
You know what cutie, normally I just ignore it but you got my goat with your haughty yet uniformed attitude, not only could we have never beaten Vietnam the fact we had to enact CONSCRIPTION to fight HALF OF THEM should be a motherfucking point of national shame

Id let vietnamese do gay little aboriginal cook outs over eternal flame at the tomb of the unknow soldier at this point, fuck it, they BEAT THE SHIT OUT OF US

It wasent just we lost, we had to EVACUATE
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Fuck you and anyone else pushing this dogshit narrative that "we were so close to final victory if only steiners counter offense worked" YOU go pick up a history book you inbred kike.

Admitting when you lost is like day 3 of being a man, how quickly did you quit the course?
you know the US could have emptied vietnam out, and that the pressure from the rest of the world, as well as homegrown internal pressure fomented by communists, pushed american forces to behave in ways that prevented the end of the war. if we had treated the cong like we treated the japanese, they would have been groveling at our feet. but the desire to wage a clean, positive, happy war led to things like hamburger hill, and a refusal to simply destroy the enemy.
 
Guess there won’t be a war with China then because 30 million young Chinese men are guaranteed to never have a wife and millions more will be incels because the increased competition has caused women’s (and their parents’) standards to rise to a level that almost no one can meet.

yeah the only real comparison to the current situation is jannisaries but jannisaries got plenty of poon they just couldn't have families until they got out

but it doesn't matter that there's no fighting men. future war is going to be a game of chicken where both sides can unleash ebola AIDS drones up your butt and we see who does it first.
 
he b-2 can carry nukes?
stud, the B2 is built to carry nukes, are you retarded? i spent an entire post during the venezuela scare explaining the exact nuclear munitions the B-2 carries.

B83 nuclear bombs are the largest-yield nukes still fielded by the US, that aren't mounted to a launch system even. these are THE BIG BOY nukes. what are you going on about?
this is totally not going to happen and just me thinking on things for the sake of it, but...

the B2 Spirit has a flight range of 6000 nautical miles on one fuel tank. venezuela is 2,459 nautical miles away, and can carry 16 B83 nuclear bombs, each carrying a yield equivalent to at least 80x what was dropped on hiroshima. with favorable winds, a B2 could erase the capital and every major city, and still be back before the fuel tank even gets to its final fourth, let alone truly empty.

just something to consider.
 
B83 nuclear bombs are the largest-yield nukes still fielded by the US, that aren't mounted to a launch system even. these are THE BIG BOY nukes. what are you going on about?
Sadly the B83 is on life support. In 2022 biden pushed retiring it and it seems the plan is still in place once the B61-12 is fully online. It's retarded to me cause the variable B83 can scale way down to low kt. You'd think there would be good reasons to keep for just in case there's a need for 1.2megaton hit somewhere.
 
Sadly the B83 is on life support. In 2022 biden pushed retiring it and it seems the plan is still in place once the B61-12 is fully online. It's retarded to me cause the variable B83 can scale way down to low kt. You'd think there would be good reasons to keep for just in case there's a need for 1.2megaton hit somewhere.
it is a bit sad, but the US's nuclear arsenal has been on a steady march to MIRVification in the last few decades, and the B83 will be a casualty of that desire to overwhelm defense systems.

this guy buys the peak, I got a bridge to sell ya if your in the market
if you think the price of silver is going to be going down any time soon i have a bridge to sell you.
 
It was START I my guy. The B-1 is old.
I don't think that is correct. The B1 was still standing ground alert in the 1990's, and I think they still do. B-52's on the other hand, haven't had a nuclear mission since the mid 1990's at the latest. They might still be "nuclear capable" on a piece of paper somewhere though.
 
it is a bit sad, but the US's nuclear arsenal has been on a steady march to MIRVification in the last few decades, and the B83 will be a casualty of that desire to overwhelm defense systems.
The B-83 also lacks a guidance system, and nobody wants to invest money into developing one when the B-61 already has that shit built in and can still make a ton of bang.
 
it is a bit sad, but the US's nuclear arsenal has been on a steady march to MIRVification in the last few decades, and the B83 will be a casualty of that desire to overwhelm defense systems.
Thankfully Biden didn't do the most insane thing he was talking about. It kind of went under the radar too, but he did say he wanted only 4-6 total SSBNs, no ICBMs, and virtually no bomber fleet. A 'minimal response' type situation, similar to what China used to 'say' about theirs.

Anyone that pushes for unilateral disarming like that... But the media let it go quick and maybe he was just in some dementia panic, but it was during the race. As far as I can tell the B83 scrapping is the only part he really got out of it. I think the Ukraine war made the idea of doing that insane even to most democrats to let Russia out nuke us 20 to 1 or more.
 
I don't think that is correct. The B1 was still standing ground alert in the 1990's, and I think they still do. B-52's on the other hand, haven't had a nuclear mission since the mid 1990's at the latest. They might still be "nuclear capable" on a piece of paper somewhere though.
You are wrong on both accounts. They literally ground the hardpoints off the B-1 and the russians check the planes every year for nuclear compliance to the treaty. As for the B52, it carries the AGM-86 nuclear cruise missile.
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Somali Scum videos while you do things this brand new holiday:

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They are so retarded they literally put all their scam businesses right next to each other.
Is it just me, or are normies/regular people getting real sick of muslims and their shit and are finally doing something about it? I don't mean "day of the rope" I mean, "the free ride ends here".
 
Blah blah blah blah
The point, as usual, flew miles above your wizened little head.
You used the US's "defeat" in Vietnam as direct evidence that the CCP might be able to defeat the US in a shooting war.
I called you unbelievably ignorant because of this, and you are.
China invaded Vietnam in 1979 (US presence in Vietnam ended in 1975), in response to the Viets (very rightfully so) interceding in Cambodia to take out Pol Pot/the Khmer Rouge. The latter were a CCP ally.
That war lasted less than 4 weeks, with the Chinese able to make little to no headway.
You can't use a "defeat" to minimize US chances against the Chinese when the Chinese themselves lost to the same enemy more recently and far more quickly.
In current year the Vietnamese are friendly to the west and to the US, and they absolutely despise the Chinese. That says quite a bit to anyone paying attention.
Now fuck off back into the bottle you crawled out of.
 
if you think the price of silver is going to be going down any time soon i have a bridge to sell you.
is it in a good location?

you just triggered one of my many trap card random facts

The term "I got a bridge to sell ya" comes from an american buisnessman who BOUGHT London bridge

stick with me this is a fun and cool story, Ok so picture what you think "london bridge" is in your head

im GUESSING you though of this guy, but this is known as 'Tower Bridge"
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well so did Robert P. McCulloch, pictured below

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turns out THIS is actually what london bridge looks like
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So in the 1960s when the british decided to dismantle the old london bridge for some reason old Bobby here wanted to buy it, and have it shipped across the atlatic brick by brick and rebuilt in Lake Havasu Arizona of all fucking places he was a tad miffed when the far more humble bridge was the one that showed up
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Its still in Lake Havasu to this today
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BTW if you google this today there is dozens of lame stream media articles about how of course the wise and well endowed MR. McCulloch OBVIOUSLY knew what bridge he was buying and would never make such a silly erroneous decision, if you believe that, I got a bridge to sell ya!
 
well I choose the factory, I'm just the bearer of bad news to tell people here that America will not choose the factory, by and large.
"The factory must grow" is not a suggestion, it's a threat and declaration that a decision has been made. your choice matters little. There's no can't, there's no whining, there's just do and work until it's done. It's going to be hard, there will be failures and it's going to have unpredictable consequences. Don't care, doesn't matter. Pick up a spanner, torch or your tool of proficiency. If you have no proficiencies then go to the paint line.
Stating a fact of the matter and being called retarded is certainly hilarious though.
People aren't calling you retarded because they don't like what you're saying. You're getting called a retard for writing massive cry posts about how "ITS LITERALLY IMPOSSIBLE! AMERICA WILL NOT BE A MANUFACTURING HUB EVER AGAIN! I AM THE ULTIMATE AUTHORITY AND MY DAD WORKS AT NINTENDO!". You have no argument and you're stating matter of factly that it's impossible, there's no reasonable stance to take against you. Also you're shadow boxing the argument that "America can't compete with China." No one has claimed that we want or need to. We don't need to supply the world with the best steel, the best cars and the best consumer electronics. We just want to be able to supply the nation and rebuild industry. We're not trying to be at scale with China. We're trying to produce enough so our industry can somewhat decoupl from China. And that's a very achievable goal given a 4/5 year time table.
 
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