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Ok just because it’s being discussed are there such things as “dreadnought” class warships or is that something in sci fi and fantasy
Dreadnought isn't so much a class itself as it is a type of battleship. After the HMS Dreadnought with its all big gun design with other improvements basically rendered all prior classes of battleships obsolete. All battleships designed after this would be considered dreadnought type battleships. I'm fairly certain they were still referred to as battleship class ships.

Scifi likes to use the name Dreadnought as a class of "Super" battleship. It also sounds intimidating and cool.
 
Dreadnought isn't so much a class itself as it is a type of battleship. After the HMS Dreadnought with its all big gun design with other improvements basically rendered all prior classes of battleships obsolete. All battleships designed after this would be considered dreadnought type battleships. I'm fairly certain they were still referred to as battleship class ships.

Scifi likes to use the name Dreadnought as a class of "Super" battleship. It also sounds intimidating and cool.
Dreadnoughts in US context would be something like USS Texas. That is a very classic example. Slow, fuck loads of guns, and around 30-40,000 tons.
 
Dreadnought isn't so much a class itself as it is a type of battleship. After the HMS Dreadnought with its all big gun design with other improvements basically rendered all prior classes of battleships obsolete.
The uniform main battery of guns (simplified range finding because you can be more reasonably sure which splashes came from which caliber of gun) and steam turbines driving the propulsion (sanic.png) were gamechangers in naval warfare and it started a naval arms race.
 
Dreadnoughts in US context would be something like USS Texas. That is a very classic example. Slow, fuck loads of guns, and around 30-40,000 tons.
The Standard Class were denigrated hard but they were great ships when taken in totality IMO. The New York and New Mexico classes in particular were better than some make them out to be. Firepower has a way of making its presence known more than gunnery finesse.
 
amazing how much they hate him, I'm completely fucking burnt on Trump ever helping my side again, but I don't "hate" him, and the way lefties and liberals react to him is baffling, they've really built him up to be the ultimate villain.

just for how they act here, they should be rounded up and beaten with rods, just so they know what violence and anger actually looks and feels like.
The irony in all this is that they talk about class and being human but goes out of their way to dehumanize him with little irony into what they're crying about.
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trump specifically saying that one of the reasons they want to modernize the navy is that they know it will revitalize american shipyards is exactly the kind of thing you want to do. you want to look steps ahead of your action and see knock-on effects, and i'm very glad to hear that was one of his stated reasons. the shipyards being so long-forgotten in this country has contributed to its manufacturing decline almost as much as the loss of the jobs themselves. the fact that they want the defiant by 2030 is very impressive, and i have faith that our American engineering can make it happen.
 
The Standard Class were denigrated hard but they were great ships when taken in totality IMO. The New York and New Mexico classes in particular were better than some make them out to be. Firepower has a way of making its presence known more than gunnery finesse.
A lot of those pre treaty and post treaty ships were good, they just had shortcomings nerds sperg about because it isn't perfect. They were good ships of the line and served valiantly.
 
These things are not built for ramming my man. They have mountains of VLS cells and a fucking railgun. Kinda the opposite of the Defiant from Star Trek tbh.
The Trek Defiant wasn't built for ramming either, bud. In what seemed to be a final desperate moment against a far bigger and more powerful foe, ramming seemed like a good way to die with honor.

The USS Defiant has the Butler photo on her stern:
Holy shit. I'm a touch skeptical that it'll actually appear on the finished product, but still, holy shit. The audacity of the man. Well, that's how he got here.
 
The Trek Defiant wasn't built for ramming either, bud. In what seemed to be a final desperate moment against a far bigger and more powerful foe, ramming seemed like a good way to die with honor.


Holy shit. I'm a touch skeptical that it'll actually appear on the finished product, but still, holy shit. The audacity of the man. Well, that's how he got here.
DS9 was such a good show. Even today it shows parallels. China's fleet is growing and now Starfleet- i mean the US navy is building a counter to the threat.
 
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