Disaster With ‘Elio,’ Pixar Has Its Worst Box Office Opening Ever - Look upon my works, ye mighty, and despair.

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The original space adventure sold about $21 million in tickets at domestic theaters from Thursday night through Sunday, putting new pressure on the once-unstoppable studio.

Pixar knew that “Elio,” an original space adventure, would most likely struggle in its first weekend at the box office.

Animated movies based on original stories have become harder sells in theaters, even for the once-unstoppable Pixar. At a time when streaming services have proliferated and the broader economy is unsettled, families want assurance that spending the money for tickets will be worth it.
But the turnout for “Elio” was worse — much worse — than even Pixar had expected. The film, which cost at least $250 million to make and market, collected an estimated $21 million from Thursday evening through Sunday at theaters in the United States and Canada, according to Comscore, which compiles box office data.

It was Pixar’s worst opening-weekend result ever. The previous bottom was “Elemental,” which arrived to $30 million in 2023.

A month ago, when the “Elio” marketing campaign began to hit high gear, Pixar and its corporate owner, Disney, had hoped that “Elio” would, in the worst-case scenario, match the “Elemental” number. Instead, it fell 30 percent short.

In wide release overseas, “Elio” collected an additional $14 million, on a par with the initial international results for “Elemental.”
Quality did not appear to be a factor: Reviews for “Elio” were mostly positive, and ticket buyers gave the movie an A grade in CinemaScore exit polls. The Rotten Tomatoes audience score stood at 91 percent positive on Sunday.

Pixar has also recovered from a period during the coronavirus pandemic when Disney weakened the animation studio’s brand by using its films to build the Disney+ streaming service, bypassing theaters altogether. Last year, Pixar’s “Inside Out 2” was the No. 1 movie at the global box office. It sold $1.7 billion in tickets.

But original animated ideas have fallen out of favor at the box office, analysts said. Pixar is not alone. DreamWorks Animation’s “Ruby Gillman: Teenage Kraken” flatlined in 2023 with $5.5 million in opening-weekend sales. Illumination Animation’s “Migration” arrived to $12 million that year.

The problem for Pixar is that its originals remain wildly expensive. “Ruby Gillman” and “Migration” each cost 50 percent less than “Elio” did. (Pixar movies are still produced entirely in the United States, increasing labor costs. Some other studios have started to rely on overseas production.)
On Sunday, Disney said it hoped a broader audience would find “Elio” over the coming weeks. The company pointed to “Elemental,” which overcame weak initial sales to ultimately collect nearly $500 million worldwide.

Families have had a lot of theatrical options of late. Universal’s live-action “How to Train Your Dragon” remake, for instance, repeated as the No. 1 movie in North America over the weekend, with $37 million in ticket sales.

Second place went to the auteur horror sequel “28 Years Later” (Sony Pictures), which debuted to about $30 million. David A. Gross, a film consultant who publishes a newsletter on box office numbers, called that total “excellent.” Directed by Danny Boyle, “28 Years Later” cost about $60 million, not including marketing.

“Elio” was third.

Brooks Barnes covers all things Hollywood. He joined The Times in 2007 and previously worked at The Wall Street Journal.
 
Treasure Planet was deliberately sabotaged at the box office, that's why it didn't perform well. It's also not a strict retelling of the novel (obviously). It would be new to you even if you'd read the novel it draws on. Which a lot of kids at the time it came out likely hadn't, it's a classic novel and sort of seen as such, not really marketed to growing kids anymore. There are flying ships in space, steampunk-ish tech and aesthetics, aliens, etc. It's a very good movie. IIRC, it and Spirit were also pioneers in using 3D models alongside 2D animation.

Doing more adventure stories that aren't lame would be a good idea honestly there aren't that many in animated movies now that I think about it. Atlantis, TP, and that one that came out in thanksgiving everyone hated are all I think of off the top of my head. Perhaps Sinbad? There are some which have elements of adventure and some action but that's not the plot or takeaway.
 
still features some literally-who director overflowing with self-importance and thinking everyone wants to hear 'MY STORY'.
They removed the original guy and gave it to the turning red people. Then when the movie failed they blamed it on "people not wanting original stories or lgbtq++ rep", standard disney tactics that technically started with sony's ghostbusters 2016.

EDIT: what the fuck why did my notifs say this was a new post am i just tired or what how the fuck did I end up replying to some shit that was longer ago than I thought lmao
 
don't remember much hate, it's a great movie (imo) with not much to hate tbh.
It's probably a problem for Disney that they sorta marketed themselves as focusing on Princess movies rather than keep promoting all their works. They'll keep doing games, books, TV shows, or whatever for all variety of princess characters, but it seems like they're reluctant to relish their "boy cartoons" quite the same.
 
Still have a copy of Luca downloaded, gathering digital dust.
Luca was alright, it's at least more grounded despite the Studio Ghibli-wannabe vibes it had going on. First ten minutes are rough because you're staring at bad sea creature designs, so once he goes ashore to live more as a human, it gets better. Doesn't really have rewatch value, though, it's just I would rather have a kid watch Luca over Elio.
 
Even at the price of free this movie is a hard sell. Still have a copy of Luca downloaded, gathering digital dust.
Luca was okay.

It was boring, but its a grounded story kids and adults can relate to. Tween boys form close friendships and somewhere around puberty you start to notice girls, develop new interests, drift apart and that's painful when one isn't ready to let go. It's an ubiquitous growing up and coming of age experience.

The fags are desperate it's a gay movie but it's kind of not.
 
Slight disagree here - that might have been true in the 70s, but as someone who grew up in the 90s Treasure Island was just a book I knew was a kid's classic along the lines of the Jungle Book. I can't remember consuming any media that was obviously based on it.

My lack of interest back when it came out were more along the lines of just seeing it as just an "adventure movie" - many Disney movies were adventures, the promise of adventure was not really ever the hook. Nemo went on an adventure, but he was a cute fish who was thrust into his adventure by circumstance, with a goal that's more personal than discovering something amazing.

Without having really looked into either movie, I assumed that Atlantis and Treasure Planet's main motivation was "let's explore the ocean/space to find this legendary place" and by the 90s people generally didn't have much of a fascination with exploration. I'm also not super familiar with Road to El Dorado, but I know it was a flop and my interest just kind of glides off it for the same reason.
Treasure Island is just an ugly book with ugly looking pirate characters and a boring main character.

Pirates of the Caribbean had the decency of casting pretty people in it and not having any kid protagonists fucking shit up. And Johnny Depp was doing the "pretty woman in a fat suit" master class where he makes you forget that Jack Sparrow is hideous as fuck and at best, is "what if Rob zombie cosplayed as a pirate".

Jungle Book stays relevant purely off the animal characters and Disney whoring out the characters either by having them star in Ronin Hood or TV shows that are super dumbed down Terry and the Pirates fanfic. No one cares about Muyagi (crappy spelling).

Treasure Planet and Atlantis failed miserably to be good action films for boys because they were visually unappealing and failed to rework Treasure Island to make it relevant in the early 2000. They were at best vanity projects and at worst, completely misreading WHY anime and cape shit was so popular with kids.
 
Treasure Planet and Atlantis failed miserably to be good action films for boys because they were visually unappealing and failed to rework Treasure Island to make it relevant in the early 2000. They were at best vanity projects and at worst, completely misreading WHY anime and cape shit was so popular with kids.
I feel this a lot. I don't think Treasure Planet was visually unappealing. It was quite beautiful visually. I was honestly confused why Jim Hawking, while white, was basically a nigger with no dad who kept getting in trouble? Is the movie made for white boys? Do white boys in suburbia have these issues? No. It had no idea what it was trying to say or who it was for.

I don't think Disney and Pixar can make content for boys. You're dealing with a psychology that wants to be the hero, do cool things, do funny things. Movies about emotional growth and solving misunderstandings are not that.

Naruto, dragon ball, Pokemon are full of violence, competition, autistic arguments about who could beat who or what the protagonist could have done in a bad situation. Stuff that is fundamental to the healthy male psyche. When you have these offerings why would a boy want to know the Lived Experience of a faggot?
 
Treasure Island is just an ugly book with ugly looking pirate characters and a boring main character.

Pirates of the Caribbean had the decency of casting pretty people in it and not having any kid protagonists fucking shit up. And Johnny Depp was doing the "pretty woman in a fat suit" master class where he makes you forget that Jack Sparrow is hideous as fuck and at best, is "what if Rob zombie cosplayed as a pirate".
Nigger they're pirates they're gonna be smelly and ugly. You do not go into a pirate movie looking to see attractive people, you go to a pirate movie to see pirates fuck each other up and search for fucking treasure.

I don't even give a shit that this is likely obvious bait I'm using it as an excuse to post 1988 treasure island


Treasure Planet and Atlantis failed miserably to be good action films for boys because they were visually unappealing and failed to rework Treasure Island to make it relevant in the early 2000
Atlantis was like the one disney movie I had almost all the toy vehicles of as a kid back when it came out. It's also weirdly one of the least "disney" disney movies in the sense it's just a full on action adventure type movie, just done in animation instead of live action. I generally appreciate that.

I would rather have a kid watch Luca over Elio.
I think a big reason Luca is less painful compared to elio is that factor once again of "luca didn't get yoinked from the original guy heading it and handed over to the turning red people who completely skinsuit reworked it." It'd likely have been in a very similar situation to luca if the OG guy was allowed to finish the movie.
 
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I was honestly confused why Jim Hawking, while white, was basically a nigger with no dad who kept getting in trouble? Is the movie made for white boys? Do white boys in suburbia have these issues? No. It had no idea what it was trying to say or who it was for.
Hilariously I envisioned Jim as a white Hispanic lmao I dunno. But apparently Jim not having a dad was in response to the rise of divorce and the rebellious youth that resulted from it, so it was probably aimed at those boys who were desperate for a father figure in their life. Apparently.

Treasure Planet was a lot of fun, visuals were astounding and looked high-tech to me at the time. I was probably the reason why it is that, the Lilo & Stitch and Monsters, Inc. DVDs ended up getting the wear-and-tear, I spent hours playing around on the special features and the like on my portable DVD player and eventual-laptop lol. Early-2000s animation held so much promise.
 
Here’s some schlock piece about how KPop: Demon Hunters succeeded where Elio fell flat

The Directors of ‘Elio’ and ‘KPop Demon Hunters’ Talk About the Reality of Selling Diverse Movies​

Domee Shi and Maggie Kang look back on the inverse reactions to 'Elio' and 'KPop Demon Hunters' and their shared desires to center original stories.

In a recent Hollywood Reporter animation roundtable, KPop Demon Huntersfilmmaker Maggie Kang and Elio co-director Domee Shi (Turning Red) discussed pushing for representation in a time when studios seem to be playing it safe with sequels. It’s a triumph when an original story like KPop Demon Hunters hits big. But original stories can also be mishandled behind the scenes, contributing to less-than-robust box office returns, as was seemingly the case with Elio.

Shi was brutally honest in talking about the Elio rollout. “From my experience making movies, making animated films is hard and a financial risk regardless of if they’re originals or sequels. Just because something is a sequel doesn’t mean it’s guaranteed to be successful,” she said, with the added context of having come off the surprise pandemic-era hit of Turning Red.

“I feel like at least at Pixar, we’re always trying to figure out how to continue telling unique and original stories that everyone could relate to and love. But it’s been tough… Elio was released this summer and got massacred at the box office, to put it bluntly.”

Shi continued to posit that Pixar is noticing, despite the numbers, that the characters have gotten a lot of appreciation in the animation fan community. “But the people who have seen it love it. And it’s just a big challenge,” she said. “How do you push original theatrical kinds of films through all of the noise, through all of the media and content that’s being released?”

Shi also gave Kang her flowers for the success of KPop Demon Hunters, describing it as “such a beacon of hope and light for original films,” and added, “I hope with the success of films like KPop that big studios will be wanting to take more creative risks.”

Kang shone light on what was hardly an overnight sensation, despite KPop Demon Hunters seeming like one upon release on Netflix. She said of the years-long journey to get it made at Sony Animation, “We [you] first start pitching a movie, you immediately talk to marketing. So marketing is involved and has a very big say on what kind of films get made at a certain studio. I truly believe that the K-pop of it all [in] our film got it greenlit.”

With K-pop leading the way, original creativity followed. “I was just like, ‘I’m gonna take this K-pop idea and make it the most Korean personal movie that I can make as a Korean creator,’ just to see Korean representation on screen,” she said. “As a Korean person and seeing and hearing from other Koreans as well—we’ve never had that representation, like of our culture of [these] women just in different garb, like traditional Korean garb. [We’ve] just never seen that before, and my parents, the first time they saw it, were crying.”

Kang is realistic, however, about what is viewed as the formula for success. “I’m an animation kid that grew up in the big studio machine. I spent most of my career at DreamWorks, and we’re always thinking about ‘what can we sell?’. Animation can be at the big studio level; they’re very expensive to make, so you want less risk,” she said. “What are the ideas that are going to get the most eyes on this product? On this film?’ And so I think that’s just kind of how I’m thinking all the time. I’m always thinking about ways to link the marketability of an idea with something very personal and then making and finding a story within that—with a character’s journey that is very universal and relatable to anybody.”
Watch the rest of the animation roundtable below:
 
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just to see Korean representation on screen,” she said. “As a Korean person and seeing and hearing from other Koreans as well—we’ve never had that representation, like of our culture

So sick of this shit, she acts like there isnt an entire country pumping out korean media that you can easily consume. Shoot, ive watched plenty of K-dramas on netflix (generally better than any shit the west puts out) It's just thinly veiled white erasure.
 
Domee Shi and Maggie Kang look back on the inverse reactions to 'Elio' and 'KPop Demon Hunters' and their shared desires to center original stories.

So sick of this shit, she acts like there isnt an entire country pumping out korean media that you can easily consume. Shoot, ive watched plenty of K-dramas on netflix (generally better than any shit the west puts out) It's just thinly veiled white erasure.

The reactions to both movies were wildly different because of really obvious reasons and the fact that the people elio was given to are still treating it like it's some "representation" thing or some BS about "original stories" and not a "one movie was bean mouth grubhub shit that was cut off from the original guy's vision because they thought it wouldn't be marketable enough to have a movie about a kid befriending a space warlord that takes inspiration from a dude's gay childhood shit and the other wasn't that level of shitshow self-neutering development wise" shows we're still in the eternal 2016. Fuck Kpop demon hunters isn't even "original" it's just fucking "what eef da goastetbusters... were celebrity pop stars from koreaaaaaaa? OOOOOOOOOOO WHAT IF THE FGHOASTEBUSTERS WERE CELEB-" yeha you get the point.

Sony comes out with a shitty female ghostbusters in 2016, blames it on moviegoers not wanting women/"representation" stories in movies. 9 years on Sony comes out with a less shitty female ghostbusters, proceeds to have "talks" with disney people who literally yoinked and sanitized an original concept till nobody wanted to even fucking see it about the state of people wanting original stories/representation.

They will never fucking learn, and if they do learn they then double back and purity spiral because the result isn't in line with politics team gobbledygook narratives.
 
Despot of Antrim made a mini-review of Elio in his year end worst movie wrap-up: (time stamped)


I just can't believe he found a movie worse than Elio. Until Pixar roots out the Tumblr trash they hired and puts a merciful end to Beanmouth, I will never watch another of their films again.
 
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