Souls Thread: Dark Souls, Demon Souls, Bloodborne

[Lords Greatsword]

Another waifufag bites the dust

 

[Scream Aim Fire]

Honestly, the new mechanics took me a bit to adjust to, but it's all the weird L2+ moves I cba learning. I am a lazy gamer.

Apologizes for the late reply, been rather... busy, on my end. I'm still learning the game myself; I ca agree, learning how to mixup the L2+ stuff into your usual moveset is challenging, especially when your a monkey-brained loon like me who's entire moveset consists of either attacking, blocking, or occasionally healing.

It's not just me who isn't bothered at all by it? Being online convinces me everyone thinks this is the best game ever made.

as the worlds most devoted FROM Software acolyte.. Nightreign is fun, but flawed.

its fun to have bite size power scaling Souls adventures, it however, is flawed in that the map is small, doesn't have enough variance (there isn't randomization but just handful of seeds) and some potential encounters/camps are leagues harder than others for the same reward.
the various characters are fun an different, but there is a notable stinker, the BIRD MAN, who while "fun" is 2 power scaling tiers below literally everyone else.
the addition of Deep Dives or w/e the hardmode is added a ton of variance to the game which it needed, and a ton more customization, and the new little expac added a ton more.

some of the bosses are some of the best boss spectacles I've ever seen, visually, musically and all that, including the Final Boss who has one of the best tracks in the series. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIyqbsKxRsE
the game feels more like a love letter to the entire "souls" franchise, while also an asset mash, however they aren't that cheap.. Artorias got a whole new remade fight with a second phase for instance, however fights like the Nameless king show their age.. what was once a pretty hard super boss, is now a joke, because he didn't get changed at all.

is it worth the price? eh for me it is because I'm FROM's greatest soldier, but buy it on a small sale, you'll absolutely get a hundred hours out of it.

This is certainly a more fun experience than even I was expecting; I haven't even seen everything in the base game yet - shit's been VERY busy on my end - but this is honestly one of the more "fun" Soulslikes that I've played. The smaller scale certainly works, though I agree the lack of variation can make things get a bit dull; I'd recommend that the devs try to add more overall variation to the world later on down the line.

The weirdest part of all of this? The aforementioned bird man, the Guardian, is both my main and the character I've had the most fun AND success with so far. Seriously, the overgrown chicken is weak compared to everyone else, but something about him just *clicks*; probably because his tankier set and shield focus works well with my preferred playstyle in other Souls games. Conversely, I've had a ton of issues adapting to the other characters - I beat Sekiro, and I couldn't wrap my head around the Executioner, for instance.

Looking forward to going through the rest of the game: this is the first Souls game I've played in quite a while that's actually made me curious/wanting to continue onwards, ad I'm not wanting to miss out.

 

[Sneedifarms]

This is certainly a more fun experience than even I was expecting; I haven't even seen everything in the base game yet - shit's been VERY busy on my end - but this is honestly one of the more "fun" Soulslikes that I've played. The smaller scale certainly works, though I agree the lack of variation can make things get a bit dull; I'd recommend that the devs try to add more overall variation to the world later on down the line.

Nightreign is extremely fun, which sucks because everyone wrote it off before launch all because it had a shrinking storm like in Fortnite or something. The lack of variety does get repetitive after a couple hundred hours, but the release of the DLC map also made it really obvious just how much of the fun in the game came from memorizing the base game's map and optimizing your route as much as possible to acquire as much runes and loot as possible before day 3. In that regard, the first few days of playing the DLC map were extremely confusing because it's a): a brand new map with almost no relation to the base game's very standardized and at this point fully memorized map and b): much more convoluted, compact, and vertical, which makes it even harder to learn.

The weirdest part of all of this? The aforementioned bird man, the Guardian, is both my main and the character I've had the most fun AND success with so far. Seriously, the overgrown chicken is weak compared to everyone else, but something about him just *clicks*; probably because his tankier set and shield focus works well with my preferred playstyle in other Souls games.

Have you tried Raider yet? No hate towards birdman (there are frankly not enough birbs and too many Wylders/Undertakers), but if you like the tanky moveset, Raider has a lot of that while still being very DPS oriented.

Conversely, I've had a ton of issues adapting to the other characters - I beat Sekiro, and I couldn't wrap my head around the Executioner, for instance.

Executor is my vote for the actual weakest character in the game, ESPECIALLY now that Scholar fills the niche he did and does a ton of other useful shit on top of that. Executor is in a weird spot where he's neither fish nor fowl. Despite being a melee oriented character, he actually does less damage with DEX weapons than Ironeye (yes, the guy whose specialty is bows!) does. His passive skill is basically useless outside of you being lucky enough to find Seppuku on a random katana in a run; his ability is, while fun, fundamentally flawed from the standpoint of his character role (made worse by the fact that Suncatcher doesn't actually scale with anything, so its damage output just becomes worse and worse the higher you level); and his ultimate is just not enough to make up for his completely mediocre damage output.

His sole saving grace was having the highest ARC stat in the game, making him the dedicated status effect character... until Scholar rolled up with an even higher ARC stat as well as a relic that allows you to sacrifice a handful of ARC points to have higher DEX than Executor does; and unlike Executor, the rest of Scholar's toolkit is actually very useful. The DLC took away the one thing Executor had going for him and now he's almost definitely the worst character in the game, though Revenant is a not so distant second place.

 

[ratnoid]

Seriously, the overgrown chicken is weak compared to everyone else

New DLC added a relic to the collectors board with an effect which sets his stats to 53 str and 53 dex (from 41/31) at the cost of 160 hp. Meaning that you'll be dealing more damage than Wylder and possibly even Raider. Guardian's main power comes from guard counters, which are hard to pull off in group fights funnily enough. So with this relic you can make up for it and focus more on consistent damage. I also want to play around with that whirlwind on charged attacks relic, since it also does additional poise damage on top of existing ones for halberds. Guardian now is in a far better shape than he used to be, but he is just still very much relics dependent.

 

[Scream Aim Fire]

Nightreign is extremely fun, which sucks because everyone wrote it off before launch all because it had a shrinking storm like in Fortnite or something.

People can't stand anything new; if it's not the exact same "everything hard because Souls" shit that's become such a trend, then they'll write it off. Even on this site, there was practically an entire thread dedicated towards hating Nightreign before launch; now look. The game's doing just fine, and all these kiddies look even more immature.

Have you tried Raider yet? No hate towards birdman (there are frankly not enough birbs and too many Wylders/Undertakers), but if you like the tanky moveset, Raider has a lot of that while still being very DPS oriented.

Not yet; from what I've seen, though, he's a great option. My best runs so far have all been because of Raiders; the extra chance to drop heavier weapons like Greataxes is useful!

Executor is my vote for the actual weakest character in the game, ESPECIALLY now that Scholar fills the niche he did and does a ton of other useful shit on top of that.

With an Exe, you're either going to get complete noobs, edgelords, or parry gods. Sometimes the occasional furry.

New DLC added a relic to the collectors board with an effect which sets his stats to 53 str and 53 dex (from 41/31) at the cost of 160 hp. Meaning that you'll be dealing more damage than Wylder and possibly even Raider. Guardian's main power comes from guard counters, which are hard to pull off in group fights funnily enough. So with this relic you can make up for it and focus more on consistent damage. I also want to play around with that whirlwind on charged attacks relic, since it also does additional poise damage on top of existing ones for halberds. Guardian now is in a far better shape than he used to be, but he is just still very much relics dependent.

Aren't the stat relics only usable in Depth of Night? Haven't been able to go for them yet myself; like I said, things are extra busy on my end.

 

[Sneedifarms]

Even on this site, there was practically an entire thread dedicated towards hating Nightreign before launch; now look. The game's doing just fine, and all these kiddies look even more immature.

People hated on it without having any understanding on what the actual gameplay mechanics were centered around which is pretty embarrassing in hindsight. The game is well designed and fun, even if it’s minimal in terms of content.

With an Exe, you're either going to get complete noobs, edgelords, or parry gods. Sometimes the occasional furry

The guys who try to aura farm while parrying are the funniest because I’m always counting down the seconds until they fumble and get oneshot. It’s just a weirdly placed mechanic that doesn’t really help the character in any meaningful way.

Aren't the stat relics only usable in Depth of Night? Haven't been able to go for them yet myself; like I said, things are extra busy on my end.

Usually yes, but the DLC adds Sovereign shop relics that have those effects on regular relics, plus an additional two stat buffs. They’re actually kind of crazy if you think about it; some of them have, let’s say, improves STR and reduces DEX, but then it’ll also have +3 STR and +3 DEX anyways so it almost neuters the downside of running the relic. I need to experiment more with them.

 

[Not Funny]

I watched the stream a bit more and yeah during gameplay it's very apparent that his voice is a show. It slips pretty often still. I don't want the dude to neck himself because he does make good content. He should have just been more honest.

 

[Scream Aim Fire]

Usually yes, but the DLC adds Sovereign shop relics that have those effects on regular relics, plus an additional two stat buffs. They’re actually kind of crazy if you think about it; some of them have, let’s say, improves STR and reduces DEX, but then it’ll also have +3 STR and +3 DEX anyways so it almost neuters the downside of running the relic. I need to experiment more with them.

I'll have to try and grab them when I hop back on, then; sounds like a good investment for my Guardian.

 

[Sneedifarms]

I'll have to try and grab them when I hop back on, then; sounds like a good investment for my Guardian.

I think you have to beat some DLC bosses to unlock them though. Not sure if it’s just Balancers or also Dreglord.

 

[Oggdo Bogdo]

So far almost nothing those lore fags said turned out to be true. They all suffer from terminal creator worship and thinking that just because some areas have environmental story telling, then every single item must be placed for a reason and every plot point must tie back to sone sentence an NPC said. Gwyn's rebel son is probably the best example of it.

It took me way too long to realize just how little Miyazaki actually gives a shit about storytelling and consistency: the Radahn and Miquella shit came out of fucking nowhere with no foreshadowing in the base game and yet the "loremasters" are still trying to justify it as if it was planned the entire time and how Miyazaki is actually a genius.

 

[Tri-Tachyon'sClown]

Nightreign matchmaking is fucking awful. Every person I've matched up with is a complete retard and I still haven't beaten the first nightlord of the DLC.

Average matchmaking with randos experience, seriously every game is like that. I've said this before I think but the collective IQ of multiplayer video games (well the internet, but details) has fallen off a cliff that so many sub-60 IQ retards now have access to the internet and a way to play games with other people, hell even paywalling multiplayer on consoles did nothing to stem the flow of fuckery.

MtF tranny class change basically sets your STR, DEX, VIG, etc to 1

Intelligence too because an intelligent person would realize beforehand he would be killing himself by taking these experimental, body destroying medications to transition into being a moid. Wisdom as well because a wise person would realize that no matter how hard they tried, they'll never be a woman. Faith would be maxed out, not because they're religious (quite the opposite), but because they have faith that they'll pass and faith in themselves that they're not making a terrible mistake.
Since it's a DS character they're pretending to be, Humanity would be removed since they're no doubt look like a freak of nature with reduced max HP.

 

[Radola Gajda]

Faith would be maxed out, not because they're religious (quite the opposite), but because they have faith that they'll pass and faith in themselves that they're not making a terrible mistake.

Tbf trannies would fit perfectly into various cults and religions in Fromsoft settings. Marika/Radagon, Godrick, Gwyndolin...

I wonder if Vaati is going to make lore video about Curserotted stinkditch.


And boss of that area Gaping Axe
wound

 

[Zenos Yae Viator]

Tbf trannies would fit perfectly into various cults and religions in Fromsoft settings. Marika/Radagon, Godrick, Gwyndolin...

well they don't, not Radagon/Marika, they are separate beings, she isn't "becoming" him or vice versa, they are two different people, Marika needed to become the Divine Hermaphrodite or Rebus to complete the Magnum Opus , as most of the backstory shit in Elden Ring is based on Alchemy.

This is the same reason Miquella chose Radhan to be his consort, one needed to fit the White Queen and the other the Red King to acheive the Magnum Opus and become God, it isn't about sex or w/e, its about fitting the archetype listed for those two "elements".

Gwyndolin is just straight up tranny shit, but you'd think they be insulted, since he was sort of forced into the role
Miquella is not, they never present him as a Women talk about him as if he's a Women or anything, he's just the God of Nascency and the Harvest, forever a beautiful child, never achieving anything, as just as they never age, none of their plans ever come to fruition.

 

[I Know 孤独のせい]

Since nobody asked for it, here is my officially sanctioned by Tanimura Souls tier list:

Demon's Souls (OG) -> Nioh 1 -> DS 2 -> Bloodborne -> Sekiro -> Elden Ring -> DS 1 -> DS 3

And just to add something in case someone wants to talk about it:

Demon's Souls: Only a highly flawed game has the potential to reach the highest heights. Cobbled together mess of a failed project with a kitchen sink approach. Lighting in a bottle.
Nioh 1 : Don't give a shit if it's not FromSoft. Been there right from the first alpha to the finished product. Exhilarating, brutal, and just a barrage of all things Japanese.
DS 2 : Quite the flawed game that never would have lived up to the sudden success of DS 1. Tried the impossible balance of retaining elements from Demons and Dark Souls whilst incorporating new ideas.
Bloodborne: Probably the most streamlined Souls game, which is both a good and bad thing.
Sekiro: Turning the game that FromSoft have been remaking for years into a rhythm game was quite fun and refreshing. The Japanese setting was a nice bonus.
ER: Still a fun and good game, but Souls fatigue hampered my enjoyment a bit.
DS1: The start to Pikachu and Snorlax is just impeccable stuff. After that, the quality just takes a nosedive.
DS3: Member DS1 ? Member trying to salvage this mess into a game that can be sold ?

 

[capitalBBustard]

>randomly including Nioh for no reason
>but only the first one
>DS2 above everything else
3/10, bumped up from 1/10 for putting DeS on top

 

[Jonny Greenwood]

I watched the stream a bit more and yeah during gameplay it's very apparent that his voice is a show. It slips pretty often still. I don't want the dude to neck himself because he does make good content. He should have just been more honest.

Honestly, I'm 50/50 on this being a tranny or a typical case of GOTIS

We won't know until he's phonebooked

 

[Tri-Tachyon'sClown]

Since nobody asked for it, here is my officially sanctioned by Tanimura Souls tier list:

Demon's Souls (OG) -> Nioh 1 -> DS 2 -> Bloodborne -> Sekiro -> Elden Ring -> DS 1 -> DS 3

And just to add something in case someone wants to talk about it:

Demon's Souls: Only a highly flawed game has the potential to reach the highest heights. Cobbled together mess of a failed project with a kitchen sink approach. Lighting in a bottle.
Nioh 1 : Don't give a shit if it's not FromSoft. Been there right from the first alpha to the finished product. Exhilarating, brutal, and just a barrage of all things Japanese.
DS 2 : Quite the flawed game that never would have lived up to the sudden success of DS 1. Tried the impossible balance of retaining elements from Demons and Dark Souls whilst incorporating new ideas.
Bloodborne: Probably the most streamlined Souls game, which is both a good and bad thing.
Sekiro: Turning the game that FromSoft have been remaking for years into a rhythm game was quite fun and refreshing. The Japanese setting was a nice bonus.
ER: Still a fun and good game, but Souls fatigue hampered my enjoyment a bit.
DS1: The start to Pikachu and Snorlax is just impeccable stuff. After that, the quality just takes a nosedive.
DS3: Member DS1 ? Member trying to salvage this mess into a game that can be sold ?

I disagree with Nioh being included just because it's a souls-like, seriously why? And Sekiro being a rhythm game? That's...wha? Also you placed DS2 up so high that even I, a DS2fag, thinks that's excessive. This rating list is, uh..."unique."

 

[Sneedifarms]

And Sekiro being a rhythm game?

It's an old /v/ meme that's been parroted to death. Apparently pressing buttons in reaction to prompts on a screen = rhythm game.

 

[Booby Jones]

It took me way too long to realize just how little Miyazaki actually gives a shit about storytelling and consistency: the Radahn and Miquella shit came out of fucking nowhere with no foreshadowing in the base game

I assumed the whole reason Malenia waged war with Radahn was because Miquella was scheming for a nice consort and Radahn thought that shit was gay.

 

[Rick The Stick]

It's an old /v/ meme that's been parroted to death. Apparently pressing buttons in reaction to prompts on a screen = rhythm game.

Its because a lot of enemies have such obvious attack patterns that once you learn the "rhythm" it trivializes the game. The big glowing prompts telling you to dodge are a different thing entirely, but mock worthy all the same.